Controversy at QB ? R. Griffin possible ?

DieHardBrownsFan

Pettine is history anyway.

Tour2ma

@gftchris said:
Woah cowboy. Keep Pettine, get Romans as OC, get Wade Phillips as DC, and ride the Manziel express all the way to respectability!

Should Pet depart and were he up to the challenge, Wade would be an interesting candidate. While he has not HC'd a team "all the way", he has turned a few team around.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
I would love to see RG3 as a Manziel backup, actually. I think it would be hilarious.

And thus, TC cemented his "sick puppy" status for eternity...

@westside-steve said:
Rumor has it that Connor Cook has been mouthing off about the city of Cleveland and how it sucks.

Feeling is hopefully mutual. Been looking at some Cook and I swear he has not learned a thing in 3 years. Just when you think he's gotten it, inexplicably he will still go brain dead.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@tour2ma said:

And thus, TC cemented his "sick puppy" status for eternity...

Feeling is hopefully mutual. Been looking at some Cook and I swear he has not learned a thing in 3 years. Just when you think he's gotten it, inexplicably he will still go brain dead.

At this point, I'm just looking for fireworks of any kind. My apathy is at an all-time low.

I was very very very very high on Cook coming into this season. I am no longer. After the experience he gathered and the offseason work he put in and the whole "this is my team" senior attitude I expected him to develop, I thought he would blossom and be this Andrew Luck-esque prospect and just shred opponents.

Alas.

The Gipper

@westside-steve said:

I want Tebow.

Rumor has it that Connor Cook has been mouthing off about the city of Cleveland and how it sucks.

WSS

Lets verify it so we can vilify him. And vandalize his parent's house.

wargograw

MSU did deal with a rash of injuries offensively. Wasn't Cook (a senior returning starter at QB) not voted a captain? People are drawing parallels to Bo Callahan not having anyone at his birthday dinner.

Babernakle

If that ideal of bringing rg3 to Cleveland is in the head of any Browns in the front office they need beaten to death and drop them in the bay

flyingfooldoug

@the-gipper said:

I think maybe we should avoid any QBs that come out of Texas or Oklahoma. JFF, Weeden, McCoy.

Of course, Quinn and Hoyer and Charlie Frye came out of Ohio.....

actually...on second thought, Frank Ryan came from Texas....Ft. Worth

How about we go for a guy from Illinois. Otto Graham is from Waukegon, Ill.

you forget, Bernie Kosar, Boardman Ohio

The Gipper

@wargograw said:
MSU did deal with a rash of injuries offensively. Wasn't Cook (a senior returning starter at QB) not voted a captain? People are drawing parallels to Bo Callahan not having anyone at his birthday dinner.

How good can Cook be, really? They won their biggest game of the year without him.

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@the-gipper said:
How good can Cook be, really? They won their biggest game of the year without him.

How good COULD he be? Really good. How good is he? Eh.

He's the safest pick in terms of skillset transition, he probably has the smallest learning curve due to the offense they run at MSU. But he just hasn't progressed at all or, if he has, it's been very little - and that's a huge red flag. He's supposedly worked his ass off in the offseason with George Whitfield, he's a fifth-year senior, he's been in the same system the entire time...and he hasn't gotten better. He's probably at his ceiling.

The Gipper

@flyingfooldoug said:
you forget, Bernie Kosar, Boardman Ohio

Well, we have had good from Ohio, and bad from Ohio.

We have had good from Texas, and bad from Texas.

I will start a thread about this.

gftChris

@the-gipper said:

Well, we have had good from Ohio, and bad from Ohio.

We have had good from Texas, and bad from Texas.

I will start a thread about this.

Sounds like information we really need to have.

The Gipper

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

How good COULD he be? Really good. How good is he? Eh.

He's the safest pick in terms of skillset transition, he probably has the smallest learning curve due to the offense they run at MSU. But he just hasn't progressed at all or, if he has, it's been very little - and that's a huge red flag. He's supposedly worked his ass off in the offseason with George Whitfield, he's a fifth-year senior, he's been in the same system the entire time...and he hasn't gotten better. He's probably at his ceiling.

Could he even be as good as Hoyer, Drew Stanton, Kirk Cousins.....other MSU QBs?

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@the-gipper said:
Could he even be as good as Hoyer, Drew Stanton, Kirk Cousins.....other MSU QBs?

He's a better prospect than any of them. He has prototypical size and has game tape of him making any throw an NFL QB needs to make. He just makes a few highly questionable decisions per game, he is inaccurate out of the pocket and he might be a dickhead.