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  • I probably wouldn't draft one either. We have very little in the way of passing game issues. If we're going to spend a high pick on flash, I'd rather it be a RB.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @westside-steve said:

    How much time do they have to get in sync with any of the quarterbacks? I think that was a big problem coming back in cold.

    If Pet, or whoever, can bring himself to choose one in the preseason...

    Undoubtedly that was a factor for JG in 2014.

    Looking forward, I'd imagine McC would enter 2016 camp as #1. Mostly because 1's will get less work than 2's early Pre-season. If JM is here, I foresee another real QB battle. In any case I'd expect a game rusty JG to see more field time than most of the other 1st teamers.

    @tour2ma said:

    Undoubtedly that was a factor for JG in 2014.

    Looking forward, I'd imagine McC would enter 2016 camp as #1. Mostly because 1's will get less work than 2's early Pre-season. If JM is here, I foresee another real QB battle. In any case I'd expect a game rusty JG to see more field time than most of the other 1st teamers.

    Unless it's Gruden at HC.

    😉

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    @canton-dawg said:

    He didn't exactly thrill me with his short performance last year.

    I'm not certain, but I think Hartline only signed a 1 yr deal.

    Agree with the thrill deficit, but two things hurt Gordon's 2014... the long delay between camp and playing, and limited QB arms.

    Eliminating the first factor is on him (assuming the NFL does not drag out his reinstatement as long as it did his hearing under the new CBA). Clearly we're in better shape with the latter factor.

    And Hart is ours through 2016...

    http://overthecap.com/player/brian-hartline/671/

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree with the thrill deficit, but two things hurt Gordon's 2014... the long delay between camp and playing, and limited QB arms.

    Eliminating the first factor is on him (assuming the NFL does not drag out his reinstatement as long as it did his hearing under the new CBA). Clearly we're in better shape with the latter factor.

    And Hart is ours through 2016...

    http://overthecap.com/player/brian-hartline/671/

    I'm a Gordon supporter, but last year was on him.

    Deandre Hopkins managing with that limited arm.

    Zombo

  • I've said it too many times on this board, but I'll say it again. I have hope for Gordon, and if/when he comes back, it would change the entire dynamic of our WR's. Defenses will absolutely have to double Gordon, or at the very least, shift help over his way. That creates opportunities for Benji and our emerging Barnidge, and whoever else we have next year. Gordon is the type of guy that can take a normal pass and take it to the house. I'm not saying he can do it every game, or that it will happen often, but he has that kind of ability, and that's what we're sorely lacking.

    Since I'm feeling in a ridiculously optimistic mood, I'll take it a step further. How about Pryor? I don't expect much from him during these four games, but what excites me is hearing that he reported last week in basically the best physical shape possible. He didn't get down on himself, he only worked harder. So if he's on our team, how hard is this guy going to work during the offseason? He's probably going to report to mini camp looking even better, and by the time camp comes around, who knows? Listen, I'm not saying Pryor is going to be great or anything, but anyone with his immense physical gifts has a chance, and that chance is augmented when the individual has tremendous work ethic.

    So we have Benji, Gordon, Pryor, and Hawkins. That's a combination of size, speed, and homerun talent (I hope). And yes, I understand how ridiculous I sound, but I don't feel like singing the blues right now. Eventually things will work out, and it will take a bit of luck for the pieces to come together.

  • Well said, jiggins.

  • C calfoxwc

    If Gordon gets hurt and/or Pryor doesn't pan out...

    of course you have to draft a WR. Maybe not the first round...who knows.

    @calfoxwc said:

    If Gordon gets hurt and/or Pryor doesn't pan out...

    of course you have to draft a WR. Maybe not the first round...who knows.

    Well sure, drafting a WR somewhere in the draft makes sense, but not with your first pick. I think with Gordon, Benjamin and Barnidge out there, Pryor is going to have an easier time finding himself open. I like the thought of Gordon, Barnidge and Pryor in the red-zone, all together.

  • Bowe was signed to get Cleveland over the minimum roster cost for a team.. so that Lerner could keep banking the sweet profit from revenue-sharing. He was not ever going to catch passes on Sunday.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • U Unsympathetic

    Bowe was signed to get Cleveland over the minimum roster cost for a team.. so that Lerner could keep banking the sweet profit from revenue-sharing. He was not ever going to catch passes on Sunday.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Bowe was signed to get Cleveland over the minimum roster cost for a team.. so that Lerner could keep banking the sweet profit from revenue-sharing. He was not ever going to catch passes on Sunday.

    Damn you Lerner!

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  • W Westside Steve

    @unsympathetic said:

    Bowe was signed to get Cleveland over the minimum roster cost for a team.. so that Lerner could keep banking the sweet profit from revenue-sharing. He was not ever going to catch passes on Sunday.

    Damn you Lerner!

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Damn you Lerner!

    WSS

    We'll never lern.....er.......

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  • Bowe is a genius. Getting paid millions of dollars to do nothing. Respect. lol

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @westside-steve said:

    Damn you Lerner!

    WSS

    We'll never lern.....er.......

    @mudfly said:

    We'll never lern.....er.......

    Slow Learner.

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  • I'd really like to see Pryor in some red zone looks. Dude looked huge out there compared to the rest of the group . . .

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  • Going over the middle to catch a pass is just not in his DNA, and I say the same about Braxton Miller. Neither will ever make it in the NFL, IMO.

  • I wouldn't mind some fades to a tall WR... back-shoulders either for that matter.

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  • W Why

    I'd really like to see Pryor in some red zone looks. Dude looked huge out there compared to the rest of the group . . .

    @why said:

    I'd really like to see Pryor in some red zone looks. Dude looked huge out there compared to the rest of the group . . .

    Agreed. He was running alongside Crow on one of his 50 yarders today and looked like a giant.
  • B bringbackbrownie2

    @why said:

    I'd really like to see Pryor in some red zone looks. Dude looked huge out there compared to the rest of the group . . .

    Agreed. He was running alongside Crow on one of his 50 yarders today and looked like a giant.

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    Agreed. He was running alongside Crow on one of his 50 yarders today and looked like a giant.

    A giant blocker?

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  • Pryor looks like a giant.

    Does he have the humility to do the hard work Monday-Friday to play like a giant every down, every week?

    I simply don't think Pryor will put in the work - he's performed zero actions in his entire history that suggest he has the capacity to grind and achieve. Everything in his life has been relying on his athleticism and never looking to go beyond that.

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  • I have to admit, I was disappointed we didn't see a bit more of Pryor. I thought the game was in hand earlier, and after the injury to Hartline, I felt as if we should've designed a way to get Pryor the ball. I don't care if it was a quick hitch, a run, or whatever...let him touch the ball. What impressed me most about Pryor is reading the reports of how he showed up two weeks ago in phenomenal shape. Like, the best shape ever. That tells a coach so much.

    I'm not sure what our receivers will look like in 2016, but I'm definitely worried about what they look like NOW. LOL. Hartline hasn't had the season that many of us were hoping for, and just as he looks to be settling in...BOOM. I hate it for him, and for our team. Just who in the HELL is Manziel going to be throwing the ball to? Benji, Jennings, Marlan Moore, Pryor, and Barnidge? Yikes. I guess you could add in the RB's as receivers too, especially Duke, but man. It's slim pickings out there. I'd say we will see Dwayne Bowe, but I don't even know if we will. And even if we do, I'm assuming there is a reason he isn't playing besides Pettine not liking him. The very little I saw of Bowe, he looked painfully slow and didn't get a millimeter of separation.

    Now, as far as NEXT year, we have some work to do. I'm going to go out on a limb and say Farmer is toast. That means whoever comes in needs to address the WR position immediately, and it can't be done solely in the draft. I know we busted on big money to Bowe, but we have to try again. I don't know the FA's for next season, but there has to be someone out there with at least a little size. Gordon will be back (stop laughing), and so will Benji (I hope), and Barnidge. We need that "Michael Crabtree" type of receiver. The guy with great hands and some size that can move the chains. Hell, maybe Hartline can be that guy, but as we're seeing this year, we need depth.

  • If it were up to me, I'd be putting Pryor on the Martavis Bryant route tree. Go, go, go some more, and we'll throw it to you if you're open. Maybe one slant/hitch per game, but that's it.

  • That would use him, but I don't think he has Martavis' speed.

    Watching the highlight of the Crow run that Pryor "escorted", not only did Pryor not aid the run with a block, he did not gain ground on Crow...

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