Greatest Athlete from Each State
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Earl Campbell here, probably.
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Here. Educate yourself. She was great at basketball, baseball, softball, pocket billiards, javelin, high jump, hurdles, diving, roller skating and bowling. She just made her living in golf because back then it was the only one that paid worth a damn for a woman. She was a phenomenal athlete.
Again, I'm well aware its possible to be an athlete yet play golf. However if you're listed as being the best 'athlete' in your state based on dominating a single game - and that game being golf... then I just can't acknowledge that.
Again, I'm well aware its possible to be an athlete yet play golf. However if you're listed as being the best 'athlete' in your state based on dominating a single game - and that game being golf... then I just can't acknowledge that.
She dominated every damn sport she ever played at the highest level available at that time. I'd say that is a far greater athlete than one who only has one sport. We have two very different definitions of "athlete". Yours is far more restrictive and IMHO far less accurate.
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The truth is, an athlete is a person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise. Based on this, a golfer cannot be on this list, golf is not a sport but rather a game as it does not require rigorous physical activity, and can be played professionally by people who are overweight, injured, and especially non-athletic.
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The truth is, an athlete is a person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise. Based on this, a golfer cannot be on this list, golf is not a sport but rather a game as it does not require rigorous physical activity, and can be played professionally by people who are overweight, injured, and especially non-athletic.
The truth is, an athlete is a person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise. Based on this, a golfer cannot be on this list, golf is not a sport but rather a game as it does not require rigorous physical activity, and can be played professionally by people who are overweight, injured, and especially non-athletic.
So Babe Ruth was not an athlete. Right!
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No way Thomas over Watt.
All day JT. count the pro bowls. Watt still in puberty
. All day JT. count the pro bowls. Watt still in puberty
.Interior O linemen are grunts. Watt has a much greater skill set than JT. But if you want to crown a grunt as the "greatest athlete" to ever come out of a certain state then you have to go with the man many consider the best center to ever play the game...Wisconsin native and former Pittsburgh Steelers center Mike Webster.
But you're right about Watt being young, hence it seems we are only projecting that Watt COULD BE the greatest ever to come out Wisconsin, but as a 9 time pro bowler, 4 time SB winner that paved the way for Franco Harris, I would have to go with Mike Webster as the greatest athlete to come out of Wisconsin...ahead of Watt or JT.
By light years.
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The truth is, an athlete is a person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise. Based on this, a golfer cannot be on this list, golf is not a sport but rather a game as it does not require rigorous physical activity, and can be played professionally by people who are overweight, injured, and especially non-athletic.
So Babe Ruth was not an athlete. Right!
So Babe Ruth was not an athlete. Right!
Right.
"Im not an athlete, I'm a professional baseball player." - John Kruck Phillies
"We're not athletes, we're baseball players." - Tom Selleck in the movie Mr. Baseball
Baseball players are like race car drivers and golfers...they have a great skill, but aren't really all that athletic.
Kruck was similar to Babe Ruth in that he was a slow fat slob like Babe Ruth.
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So Babe Ruth was not an athlete. Right!
Right.
"Im not an athlete, I'm a professional baseball player." - John Kruck Phillies
"We're not athletes, we're baseball players." - Tom Selleck in the movie Mr. Baseball
Baseball players are like race car drivers and golfers...they have a great skill, but aren't really all that athletic.
Kruck was similar to Babe Ruth in that he was a slow fat slob like Babe Ruth.
So if a 6ft 5 guy can throw a baseball 99mph...he's not an athlete?..smhRight."Im not an athlete, I'm a professional baseball player." - John Kruck Phillies
"We're not athletes, we're baseball players." - Tom Selleck in the movie Mr. Baseball
Baseball players are like race car drivers and golfers...they have a great skill, but aren't really all that athletic.
Kruck was similar to Babe Ruth in that he was a slow fat slob like Babe Ruth.
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So if a 6ft 5 guy can throw a baseball 99mph...he's not an athlete?..smhRight."Im not an athlete, I'm a professional baseball player." - John Kruck Phillies
"We're not athletes, we're baseball players." - Tom Selleck in the movie Mr. Baseball
Baseball players are like race car drivers and golfers...they have a great skill, but aren't really all that athletic.
Kruck was similar to Babe Ruth in that he was a slow fat slob like Babe Ruth.
So if a 6ft 5 guy can throw a baseball 99mph...he's not an athlete?..smh
Being good at one thing doesn't make you an athlete, it makes you good at one thing. Being able to do a bunch of things that cover across different sports - throw well, run well, jump well, kick well, be strong, run for a long time - these are things that make you an athlete.
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So if a 6ft 5 guy can throw a baseball 99mph...he's not an athlete?..smh
Being good at one thing doesn't make you an athlete, it makes you good at one thing. Being able to do a bunch of things that cover across different sports - throw well, run well, jump well, kick well, be strong, run for a long time - these are things that make you an athlete.
Being good at one thing doesn't make you an athlete, it makes you good at one thing. Being able to do a bunch of things that cover across different sports - throw well, run well, jump well, kick well, be strong, run for a long time - these are things that make you an athlete.
Thanks for reinforcing my case for the other Babe Chris. A great athlete at multiple sports just like Jim Thorp and the great lacrosse player, Jim Brown.
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Great topic.
I think you gotta go Jim Brown over Ty Cobb from Georgia.
Joe Montana is debatable. Athletes such as Wilt Chamberlain, Kobe Bryant, Johnny Unitas, Arnold Palmer came out of Pa.
There really is no right or wrong IMO.
Although golf isn't really an athletic event.
Great topic.
I think you gotta go Jim Brown over Ty Cobb from Georgia.
Joe Montana is debatable. Athletes such as Wilt Chamberlain, Kobe Bryant, Johnny Unitas, Arnold Palmer came out of Pa.
There really is no right or wrong IMO.
Although golf isn't really an athletic event.
Good arguments there on PA and GA.....certainly debatable.
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Minnesota = Dave Winfield
Alabama = Bo Jackson
Minnesota = Dave Winfield
Arguable, yes.
Alabama = Bo Jackson
Not arguable. As a speciman, sure, Bo would rank....but for actual accomplishment on the field (as a pro)....he can't touch Hank Aaron.
That brings up an interesting point....what about a great athlete that was injured and had to leave the game early.
I mean, Marcus Dupree may have been a greater pure athlete...even pure runner... than Walter Payton....but Payton endured and played at a high level for a long time. Dupree got injured badly and could not continue his career. So who gets the nod for the state of Mississippi? Payton would
(But Hell, the alternate answer to that could actually be: Brett Favre)
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All day JT. count the pro bowls. Watt still in puberty
.Interior O linemen are grunts. Watt has a much greater skill set than JT. But if you want to crown a grunt as the "greatest athlete" to ever come out of a certain state then you have to go with the man many consider the best center to ever play the game...Wisconsin native and former Pittsburgh Steelers center Mike Webster.
But you're right about Watt being young, hence it seems we are only projecting that Watt COULD BE the greatest ever to come out Wisconsin, but as a 9 time pro bowler, 4 time SB winner that paved the way for Franco Harris, I would have to go with Mike Webster as the greatest athlete to come out of Wisconsin...ahead of Watt or JT.
By light years.
Interior O linemen are grunts. Watt has a much greater skill set than JT. But if you want to crown a grunt as the "greatest athlete" to ever come out of a certain state then you have to go with the man many consider the best center to ever play the game...Wisconsin native and former Pittsburgh Steelers center Mike Webster.
But you're right about Watt being young, hence it seems we are only projecting that Watt COULD BE the greatest ever to come out Wisconsin, but as a 9 time pro bowler, 4 time SB winner that paved the way for Franco Harris, I would have to go with Mike Webster as the greatest athlete to come out of Wisconsin...ahead of Watt or JT.
By light years.
Hardly by light years. As noted, Webster went to 9 PBs....JT already has 8 (don't know if he will make it this year)....and he is just now in the prime of his career.
And Watt has a long way to go too. If you are arguing skill set...then you have to say that if Watt has a greater skill set than JT, then he certainly has a greater skill set over Webster. OTs are generally considered more "skilled" than OCs (How many OTs were picked in the Top 5 drafts the last few years vs. the number of OCs.
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Just FYI, since 2000: 16 OTs have been taken with the first 5 picks of the first round. No centers have been chosen that high.
And here is the funny thing: Only 8 players listed as centers have been selected in the first round since 2000 and three of them are:
Jeff Faine
Alex Mack
Cameron Erving all taken by the Browns.
the others were: Chris Spencer, Seattle. Nick Mangold Jets, Eric Wood Bills, Maurkice Pouncey Steelers and Travis Frederick, Cowboys
And Pouncey was the highest pick at #18....but Erving was next at #19
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Interior O linemen are grunts. Watt has a much greater skill set than JT. But if you want to crown a grunt as the "greatest athlete" to ever come out of a certain state then you have to go with the man many consider the best center to ever play the game...Wisconsin native and former Pittsburgh Steelers center Mike Webster.
But you're right about Watt being young, hence it seems we are only projecting that Watt COULD BE the greatest ever to come out Wisconsin, but as a 9 time pro bowler, 4 time SB winner that paved the way for Franco Harris, I would have to go with Mike Webster as the greatest athlete to come out of Wisconsin...ahead of Watt or JT.
By light years.
Hardly by light years. As noted, Webster went to 9 PBs....JT already has 8 (don't know if he will make it this year)....and he is just now in the prime of his career.
And Watt has a long way to go too. If you are arguing skill set...then you have to say that if Watt has a greater skill set than JT, then he certainly has a greater skill set over Webster. OTs are generally considered more "skilled" than OCs (How many OTs were picked in the Top 5 drafts the last few years vs. the number of OCs.
Hardly by light years. As noted, Webster went to 9 PBs....JT already has 8 (don't know if he will make it this year)....and he is just now in the prime of his career.
And Watt has a long way to go too. If you are arguing skill set...then you have to say that if Watt has a greater skill set than JT, then he certainly has a greater skill set over Webster. OTs are generally considered more "skilled" than OCs (How many OTs were picked in the Top 5 drafts the last few years vs. the number of OCs.
True, not light years. Miles lol.
Agree Watt does have a broader skill set than Webster.
But the reason you have to put Mike Webster there instead of either Watt or JT is because Webster is regarded by most as the best center to have ever played the game. That says more than Watt's skill set or JT's Pro Bowls. Neither JT or Watt would be in a conversation discussing the "best ever" at their respective positions.
Not YET anyway.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1090410-the-10-best-centers-in-nfl-history/page/11
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So if a 6ft 5 guy can throw a baseball 99mph...he's not an athlete?..smhRight."Im not an athlete, I'm a professional baseball player." - John Kruck Phillies
"We're not athletes, we're baseball players." - Tom Selleck in the movie Mr. Baseball
Baseball players are like race car drivers and golfers...they have a great skill, but aren't really all that athletic.
Kruck was similar to Babe Ruth in that he was a slow fat slob like Babe Ruth.
So if a 6ft 5 guy can throw a baseball 99mph...he's not an athlete?..smh
If I can throw a dart at a dartboard at 99mph, am I an athlete?
...and what does being 6ft 5 have to do with it?
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Hardly by light years. As noted, Webster went to 9 PBs....JT already has 8 (don't know if he will make it this year)....and he is just now in the prime of his career.
And Watt has a long way to go too. If you are arguing skill set...then you have to say that if Watt has a greater skill set than JT, then he certainly has a greater skill set over Webster. OTs are generally considered more "skilled" than OCs (How many OTs were picked in the Top 5 drafts the last few years vs. the number of OCs.
True, not light years. Miles lol.
Agree Watt does have a broader skill set than Webster.
But the reason you have to put Mike Webster there instead of either Watt or JT is because Webster is regarded by most as the best center to have ever played the game. That says more than Watt's skill set or JT's Pro Bowls. Neither JT or Watt would be in a conversation discussing the "best ever" at their respective positions.
Not YET anyway.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1090410-the-10-best-centers-in-nfl-history/page/11
True, not light years. Miles lol.
Agree Watt does have a broader skill set than Webster.
But the reason you have to put Mike Webster there instead of either Watt or JT is because Webster is regarded by most as the best center to have ever played the game. That says more than Watt's skill set or JT's Pro Bowls. Neither JT or Watt would be in a conversation discussing the "best ever" at their respective positions.
Not YET anyway.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1090410-the-10-best-centers-in-nfl-history/page/11
I guess someone had to rank them....but really, I don't see a lot of difference between Webster and the likes of Jim Otto, Jim Ringo, Dermonti Dawson, Jim Langer, Dwight Stephenson, Mick Tinglehoff, Frank Gatski. Probably the nature of the position.
But, yet, yes.....before they are done both JT and Watt could be considered amongst the best at their position. Watt is being compared to Reggie White.
As for OTs, those considered the best ever are the likes of Anthony Munoz, Jonathan Ogden, Art Shell. Joe's problem, unlike these other, is that he has not played on a team that has won a lot....and that can hurt a guy, even if the losing has nothing to do with him.
(and hell....Jim Otto is from Wisconsin...so Webster may not even arguably be the best OC from there.)
But, I would still go with Eric Heiden as best athlete.....though the best "Sportsman" from Wisc. is probably Curly Lambeau...for his contributions as both a player and coach.
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Stinkhole. Mike Webster the guy in the movie Concussion gluing his teeth back in verse a guy that has never missed a snap in JT. Go wave your yellow hanky in the stinkhole we call Shitsburg..
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Minnesota = Dave Winfield
Alabama = Bo Jackson
Minnesota = Dave Winfield
Alabama = Bo Jackson
I agree with Gip- Jackson's career was too short to get the nod.
& PS Gip- had to look it up, Michael Jordan was born in New York- moved to NC. We can debate who's better, him or Kareem, but I'll give the nod to Jordan. Kareem's status is mostly due to longevity.
That got me to thinking, and looking it up again- for Louisiana I just might take Bill Russell (moved to California @
over Peyton Manning. And If you want to say Bill is primarily California, I take him over Joe D easy.
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