Another defensive scheme question?
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This happened at least 3 times yesterday.
It was 3rd down and 6 or 7. The Browns rush 3 or 4. Then they play off the WR's 8-10 yards.
And at the snap, the db's back up even farther.
Might have been the easiest 1st downs all day.
Also I saw Rex Ryan say they have too many DL in coverage. Don't the Bills run the same defense we do?
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
rex said that about us or Buffalo? ANd yeah in any case our DB coverage nerfs our pass rush. Wilson was getting rid of the ball in like 2 seconds all day.
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Rex said it about his defense in Buffalo. But we run the same defense
On the plays I was talking about there was NO pass rush and Wilson just stood there and waited for his WR to get to the line and turn around and he threw them the ball as they were wide open.
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We'd rush 3 on like 3rd and 5 and somebody would be wide open for 15 yards within 2 seconds.
We rush 6 in the same scenario, get no pressure, and somebody is wide open for 15 yards in 2 seconds.
This defense is just all-around depressing. Even before the injuries they were too.
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This is a,defense that lacks NFL caliber talent. The aging defenders, no pass rush, they don't even belong in the conversation with other teams. Someone on this board suggested they gut the team. I agree. This team is so far off the competitive level!
The offense and its lack of running backs and wide receivers is pathetic. Can't watch anymore.
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Guess I'm just a glass half-full kinda guy...
I remember at least a half dozen plays when we rushed 3 or 4 and:
- Wilson had no one to throw to...
- we racked up a couple sacks...
- Wilson had to run for what he could get...
- Wilson had to chuck the ball OB...
... or maybe I need a new glass...
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Guess I'm just a glass half-full kinda guy...
I remember at least a half dozen plays when we rushed 3 or 4 and:
- Wilson had no one to throw to...
- we racked up a couple sacks...
- Wilson had to run for what he could get...
- Wilson had to chuck the ball OB...
... or maybe I need a new glass...
Na your glass is fine.Guess I'm just a glass half-full kinda guy...
I remember at least a half dozen plays when we rushed 3 or 4 and:
- Wilson had no one to throw to...
- we racked up a couple sacks...
- Wilson had to run for what he could get...
- Wilson had to chuck the ball OB...
... or maybe I need a new glass...
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Guess I'm just a glass half-full kinda guy...
I remember at least a half dozen plays when we rushed 3 or 4 and:
- Wilson had no one to throw to...
- we racked up a couple sacks...
- Wilson had to run for what he could get...
- Wilson had to chuck the ball OB...
... or maybe I need a new glass...
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Buddy Ryan is rolling in his grave. Rob out of football. Rex with a suppose to be better personal line up than us, has now lost his Defensive personal, now talking. This system now does not work due to coaches that understand what the tape shows. The Wild Cat will never work for the same reasons Flipo, Pryor not fooling anyone till he throws the ball.
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The biggest problem with our defense is the lack of lb'ers... this has been the bane of this team and will continue to be so until the dolts in charge get a clue on how to win football games from within our division. The fucking blockheads we got trying to run this shit show think drafting 1 lb and getting some old fa just fixed it for us... complete fools is what they are. They will never ever be a really good team until they actually invest in defense and start drafting 2 or three lb'ers every year until the unit is actually feared on the field.
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no, the secondary depth reached it's limits of capability against
good wr's.
Josh Cribbs said again on the radio today...that the offense needs PLAYMAKERS desperately...
but the defense's problems were mostly coaching.
I'll go with Cribbs.
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Even when the secondary was healthy, they sucked.
Joe Haden is an average CB, and well paid, Whitner is old and well paid, Gibson has looked like garbage all year.
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Buddy Ryan is rolling in his grave. Rob out of football. Rex with a suppose to be better personal line up than us, has now lost his Defensive personal, now talking. This system now does not work due to coaches that understand what the tape shows. The Wild Cat will never work for the same reasons Flipo, Pryor not fooling anyone till he throws the ball.
Buddy Ryan is rolling in his grave. Rob out of football. Rex with a suppose to be better personal line up than us, has now lost his Defensive personal, now talking. This system now does not work due to coaches that understand what the tape shows. The Wild Cat will never work for the same reasons Flipo, Pryor not fooling anyone till he throws the ball.
I think you mean IF Buddy Ryan were dead, he would be rolling in his grave.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
We are all rolling over in our graves watching this defense
And we are all still alive
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Even when the secondary was healthy, they sucked.
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Not last year. Ask A. J. Green and Antonio Brown.
Haden is all pro for a reason. He is having a tough year this year.
I hope he comes back to form next year.
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How good was he when he got burned for a late Td against Jax last year or when he got beat all day by the Jets this year....
He is no great shut down CB
never was
He is like Johnny, fools gold.....Looks good sometimes, and then looks like crap
Joe Haden is one of the most overrated CB in the NFL. Always has been.
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Buddy Ryan is rolling in his grave. Rob out of football. Rex with a suppose to be better personal line up than us, has now lost his Defensive personal, now talking. This system now does not work due to coaches that understand what the tape shows. The Wild Cat will never work for the same reasons Flipo, Pryor not fooling anyone till he throws the ball.
I think you mean IF Buddy Ryan were dead, he would be rolling in his grave.
I think you mean IF Buddy Ryan were dead, he would be rolling in his grave.
I apologize to all Ryan's in the world. Buddy is just fine at the age of 84 but he did lose his wife to Alzheimer per Wicko. Send no Bounty Thugs
Needs to retrain his Ryan Tree (part 6). Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson -
Watching the Saints tonight. I'm guessing they run the same defense as the Browns......
The Ryan family defense has been figured out.
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well then, name one cb in NFL history that never made a mistake,
never gave up a touchdown.
Go ahead, make my haysies.
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They all give up big plays
Joe Haden gives them up every week
Just watch the games
When the other team needs a big play, they TARGET Haden
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