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Once a cheater, always a cheater...

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  • paul warfield P
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    P paul warfield wrote on last edited by
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    If you aint cheating, you ain't trying

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    • Tour2maT Tour2ma

      So basically the Pats have end run the salary cap?

      Pumpkin Eater P
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      P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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      @tour2ma said:

      So basically the Pats have end run the salary cap?

      Yep. It is illegal under the terms of the latest collective bargaining agreement.

      :neutral_face:
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        jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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        I've never cared what the Patriots do. To me, they never stop searching for an advantage, and if it's against the rules...so what. Take one of our 6th round draft choices, or fine my billionaire owner a million dollars. Ho-hum. It DOES bother the ethical side of my brain, but whatever.

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          MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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          So....Brady taking less $ to help his team might not be true?......he just gets it funneled through the back door?....

          Interesting....

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            That's a great, against-the-rules way of beating the salary cap, isn't it?

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              T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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              link?

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              • MudflyM Mudfly

                So....Brady taking less $ to help his team might not be true?......he just gets it funneled through the back door?....

                Interesting....

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                @mudfly said:

                So....Brady taking less $ to help his team might not be true?......he just gets it funneled through the back door?....

                Interesting....

                Well... "officially" it might be true... 😉

                Is Brady supplying the team with Uggs?

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                  P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                  http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25421960/report-patriots-pay-a-tom-brady-owned-company-run-by-suspect-partner
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                    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                    A key line from that article:

                    "The NFL says it is aware of the arrangement and has taken no action, despite questions from some specialists in sports law and economics about whether teams should pay for services by for-profit companies owned by their active players and whether the relationship provides value to Brady that should be counted against the club’s salary cap."

                    It may be unethical but I'd bet my bottom dollar it's not breaking the rules.

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                    • Pumpkin Eater P
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                      P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                      The NFL also destroyed the patriots cheating library in a private room in Gillette stadium before anyone else could see it so...

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                        so the patriots have been implicated in another cheating scandal involving the organization paying a company Tom Brady co-owns for "services". These guys cheat so much the NFL won't be able to make it go away soon.

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @pumpkin-eater said:

                        so the patriots have been implicated in another cheating scandal involving the organization paying a company Tom Brady co-owns for "services". These guys cheat so much the NFL won't be able to make it go away soon.

                        This though it would seem would have nothing to do with the on field game......Just a money issue.

                        But lets ask this.....if player A owns Company X that provides widgets.....and Team B....for whom player A works need widgets, why would it be improper for team B to buy its widgets from Company X.

                        Where is the conflict of interest?

                        Is there a rule prohibiting this kind of arrangement?

                        If so, why? It all seems pretty up front to me......unless something else is going on.

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                        • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                          So basically the Pats have end run the salary cap?

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @tour2ma said:

                          So basically the Pats have end run the salary cap?

                          Not if a legitimate service is being provided by the company the player owns.

                          For all we know that company could be completely unprofitable.

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                            @tour2ma said:

                            So basically the Pats have end run the salary cap?

                            Yep. It is illegal under the terms of the latest collective bargaining agreement.

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @pumpkin-eater said:

                            Yep. It is illegal under the terms of the latest collective bargaining agreement.

                            If it is against the rules.....then it is just a rule being broken.......Not a legal statute or ethical tenant.

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