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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Unless sufficiently distracted by trivia, surveys, etc... Yes, we have to talk abut this team.

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Unless sufficiently distracted by trivia, surveys, etc... Yes, we have to talk abut this team.

    You are right, we do. I will get to work on those.

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      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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      It's a dirty job, but...

      "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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        Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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        Can we talk about the Cavs?

        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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          @tour2ma said:

          Unless sufficiently distracted by trivia, surveys, etc... Yes, we have to talk abut this team.

          You are right, we do. I will get to work on those.

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          T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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          @the-gipper said:

          You are right, we do. I will get to work on those.

          How about one that lets us chose a percentage of stay or go for Farmer, O'Neil, Flip and Pettine.

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            @the-gipper said:

            You are right, we do. I will get to work on those.

            How about one that lets us chose a percentage of stay or go for Farmer, O'Neil, Flip and Pettine.

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            MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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            @texasag1969 said:

            How about one that lets us chose a percentage of stay or go for Farmer, O'Neil, Flip and Pettine.

            Here is a local article with that poll you're asking about.....

            Fans voted 87% against Farmer and 13% against Pettine.....and the local pundits went 4-0 for firing Farmer first.....

            http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/12/is_mike_pettine_or_ray_farmer.html#incart_river_index

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              @texasag1969 said:

              How about one that lets us chose a percentage of stay or go for Farmer, O'Neil, Flip and Pettine.

              Here is a local article with that poll you're asking about.....

              Fans voted 87% against Farmer and 13% against Pettine.....and the local pundits went 4-0 for firing Farmer first.....

              http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/12/is_mike_pettine_or_ray_farmer.html#incart_river_index

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              T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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              @mudfly said:

              Here is a local article with that poll you're asking about.....

              Fans voted 87% against Farmer and 13% against Pettine.....and the local pundits went 4-0 for firing Farmer first.....

              http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/12/is_mike_pettine_or_ray_farmer.html#incart_river_index

              Well I just helped him round up too 88%. 😆

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                @mudfly said:

                Here is a local article with that poll you're asking about.....

                Fans voted 87% against Farmer and 13% against Pettine.....and the local pundits went 4-0 for firing Farmer first.....

                http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/12/is_mike_pettine_or_ray_farmer.html#incart_river_index

                Well I just helped him round up too 88%. 😆

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                MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                @texasag1969 said:

                Well I just helped him round up too 88%. 😆

                Ha!....gotta say im surprised at this poll, simply based upon all the anti Pettine venom being spread here....but happy to know that some others seem to see it the way we see it....😉

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                  @the-gipper said:

                  You are right, we do. I will get to work on those.

                  How about one that lets us chose a percentage of stay or go for Farmer, O'Neil, Flip and Pettine.

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @texasag1969 said:

                  How about one that lets us chose a percentage of stay or go for Farmer, O'Neil, Flip and Pettine.

                  Perhaps.....though it seems fair to say that those subjects have been covered ad nauseum on here.

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                    @texasag1969 said:

                    Well I just helped him round up too 88%. 😆

                    Ha!....gotta say im surprised at this poll, simply based upon all the anti Pettine venom being spread here....but happy to know that some others seem to see it the way we see it....😉

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    @mudfly said:

                    Ha!....gotta say im surprised at this poll, simply based upon all the anti Pettine venom being spread here....but happy to know that some others seem to see it the way we see it.... 😉

                    Ditto...

                    Shocked and pleased all at once...

                    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                      stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                      I agree it's farmer more too, but like they said, it's not like pettine hasn't done anything wrong either.

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                        Im OK with keeping Pett as long as he goes to clock management school.

                        But problem is ... if you replace Farmer and keep Pett, Pett will be on a short leash because new GM or possible head football dude will want "his guy", and Pett will have to win next year or we are starting all over again with a coaching staff and scheme and it never ends.

                        You almost gotta keep both or fire both ... but if I had to keep one ... Yes, Pett.

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                          Im OK with keeping Pett as long as he goes to clock management school.

                          But problem is ... if you replace Farmer and keep Pett, Pett will be on a short leash because new GM or possible head football dude will want "his guy", and Pett will have to win next year or we are starting all over again with a coaching staff and scheme and it never ends.

                          You almost gotta keep both or fire both ... but if I had to keep one ... Yes, Pett.

                          Z

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          Zombo said:

                          Im OK with keeping Pett as long as he goes to clock management school.

                          But problem is ... if you replace Farmer and keep Pett, Pett will be on a short leash because new GM or possible head football dude will want "his guy", and Pett will have to win next year or we are starting all over again with a coaching staff and scheme and it never ends.

                          You almost gotta keep both or fire both ... but if I had to keep one ... Yes, Pett.

                          Z

                          That is why we need a POFO. President of Football Operations......where the GM is NOT the HC's boss, but the POFO is.

                          The model was when we brought Holmgren in here.....its just that he definitely was not the right guy because he cared not a whit about improving the team....only about his paycheck and the cigars he could shove up his ass.

                          Get a real guy and it could work.

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