The Browns are bringing in USC QB Mark Sanchez.
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It could be posturing but it could also be that the Browns aren't satisfied that either of their QBs is a great long term option. The whole mess could remain interesting all the way through the draft.
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It could be a smoke screen or the Browns FO wants to cover all their bases in case a deal they can't pass up happens on draft day involving one of their QB's.
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It could be a smoke screen or the Browns FO wants to cover all their bases in case a deal they can't pass up happens on draft day involving one of their QB's.
It could be a smoke screen or the Browns FO wants to cover all their bases in case a deal they can't pass up happens on draft involving one of their QB's.
Drafting a 1st round QB is not a Mankok type of move.
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It could be posturing but it could also be that the Browns aren't satisfied that either of their QBs is a great long term option. The whole mess could remain interesting all the way through the draft.
It could be posturing but it could also be that the Browns aren't satisfied that either of their QBs is a great long term option. The whole mess could remain interesting all the way through the draft.
You are right, it very well could be absolutely nothing. I don't believe the Staff isn't satisfied with either QB. could be a total fake out.
Supposedly Philly is trying to make a deal to package thier #21 and #28 to move up to get Crabtree. Also, If teams like the Jets, San Fran think the Browns are interested in Snachez they may be more likely to trade up letting a Crabtree or Curry fall to us.
I don't believe it has anyting to do us wanting Sanchez or trading Quinn.
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They're gonna trade Queen, draft Sanchez, and let him sit behind Anderson for a couple years.
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They're gonna trade Queen, draft Sanchez, and let him sit behind Anderson for a couple years.
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No why would we waste our time bringing in a 1st round QB ? This makes no sense at all.
Sure it does.....maybe we want to draft him there, maybe we would draft him if we traded down.
Things are changing guys...you have to forget every notion you may have formed about the Browns and what they might look like a few years down the road.
Both Mangini and Kok may have been in the group that passed on Quinn or would have passed on Quinn...more than half the teams in the league passed him over before we pulled him out of the green room......so some teams didn't think he was all that good.
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haha ouch!!!
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No why would we waste our time bringing in a 1st round QB ? This makes no sense at all.
Sure it does.....maybe we want to draft him there, maybe we would draft him if we traded down.
Things are changing guys...you have to forget every notion you may have formed about the Browns and what they might look like a few years down the road.
Both Mangini and Kok may have been in the group that passed on Quinn or would have passed on Quinn...more than half the teams in the league passed him over before we pulled him out of the green room......so some teams didn't think he was all that good.
more than half the teams in the league passed him over before we pulled him out of the green room......so some teams didn't think he was all that good.
That is a bit of an exageration there ballpeen. When you look at the 2007 draft, only the following teams were even looking QB:
1. OAK
2. MIN (maybe)
3. MIA (notice how quick that staff lost their jobs)
4. KC (who was looking to move up and get Quinn but CLE jumped ahead)
That's 4 teams, not half the NFL. Not even a quarter of the NFL. Teams don't generally take players they have zero need for in the 1st round. That is a lot of money to shell out.
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No why would we waste our time bringing in a 1st round QB ? This makes no sense at all.
Sure it does.....maybe we want to draft him there, maybe we would draft him if we traded down.
Things are changing guys...you have to forget every notion you may have formed about the Browns and what they might look like a few years down the road.
Both Mangini and Kok may have been in the group that passed on Quinn or would have passed on Quinn...more than half the teams in the league passed him over before we pulled him out of the green room......so some teams didn't think he was all that good.
Both Mangini and Kok may have been in the group that passed on Quinn or would have passed on Quinn...more than half the teams in the league passed him over before we pulled him out of the green room......so some teams didn't think he was all that good.
To be fair, most of those teams didn't think they had a need at QB at the time that warranted a 1st round pick at that position. If you look at the teams after Miami at 9 (and that draft worked out great for the people in charge there) there wasn't a team that thought they needed a QB in the 1st until we traded up to get him.
A lot of those teams that didn't think they needed a QB have since learned otherwise.
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I do understand, but bottomline, more than half the teams passed him.
Need or no need...really good qbs don't get passed over for very long.
I don't remember...was he the 1st QB taken that year??
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I do understand, but bottomline, more than half the teams passed him.
Need or no need...really good qbs don't get passed over for very long.
I don't remember...was he the 1st QB taken that year??
I do understand, but bottomline, more than half the teams passed him.
Need or no need...really good qbs don't get passed over for very long.
I don't remember...was he the 1st QB taken that year??
The ENTIRE NFL passed over Kurt Warner completely.
The ENTIRE NFL passed over Drew Brees one time.
The ENTIRE NFL passed over Tom Brady FIVE TIMES.
The ENTIRE NFL passed over StudMuffin Derek Anderson FIVE TIMES (then threw him out with the garbage.)
Just because he fell to 22 because teams weren't looking for a QB doesn't mean he'll be no good - just like the mere fact that he was a 1st rounder doesn't guarantee that he will be good.
We're clearly in rebuilding/reloading mode (once again) and not looking at any legit shot at contending this year. We've already spent a 1 AND a 2 to get him. So give the kid a chance to play and prove himself one way or the other so we can see what we got for that 1 AND 2.
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I do understand, but bottomline, more than half the teams passed him.
Need or no need...really good qbs don't get passed over for very long.
I don't remember...was he the 1st QB taken that year??
I do understand, but bottomline, more than half the teams passed him.
Need or no need...really good qbs don't get passed over for very long.
I don't remember...was he the 1st QB taken that year??
Second behind Russel. Of course there were also the reports that one of the reasons the Raiders didn't take him was they felt Quinn would command more money.
As to good QBs getting passed over for long, I submit for you Aaron Rogers, Joe Montana, McNabb, Big Gay Ben, and Cutler to name a few. Need plays a huge factor in a team using a 1st round pick for a QB. If a team has a QB they feel can win in the NFL, they aren't going to go draft a QB in round 1 because he is the best available player left on the board.
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more than half the teams in the league passed him over before we pulled him out of the green room......so some teams didn't think he was all that good.
That is a bit of an exageration there ballpeen. When you look at the 2007 draft, only the following teams were even looking QB:
1. OAK
2. MIN (maybe)
3. MIA (notice how quick that staff lost their jobs)
4. KC (who was looking to move up and get Quinn but CLE jumped ahead)
That's 4 teams, not half the NFL. Not even a quarter of the NFL. Teams don't generally take players they have zero need for in the 1st round. That is a lot of money to shell out.
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Teams don't generally take players they have zero need for in the 1st round.Yeah no shit. They had no need for BQ. Comprende?
If your excuse is that there was a bunch of better QBs on all the other teams then why would you even push this theory?
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Masters said:
Teams don't generally take players they have zero need for in the 1st round.Yeah no shit. They had no need for BQ. Comprende?
If your excuse is that there was a bunch of better QBs on all the other teams then why would you even push this theory?
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I do understand, but bottomline, more than half the teams passed him.
Need or no need...really good qbs don't get passed over for very long.
I don't remember...was he the 1st QB taken that year??
I do understand, but bottomline, more than half the teams passed him.
Need or no need...really good qbs don't get passed over for very long.
I don't remember...was he the 1st QB taken that year??
n/m. Masters covered it (I disagree with your supposition, though
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I do understand, but bottomline, more than half the teams passed him.
Need or no need...really good qbs don't get passed over for very long.
I don't remember...was he the 1st QB taken that year??
The ENTIRE NFL passed over Kurt Warner completely.
The ENTIRE NFL passed over Drew Brees one time.
The ENTIRE NFL passed over Tom Brady FIVE TIMES.
The ENTIRE NFL passed over StudMuffin Derek Anderson FIVE TIMES (then threw him out with the garbage.)
Just because he fell to 22 because teams weren't looking for a QB doesn't mean he'll be no good - just like the mere fact that he was a 1st rounder doesn't guarantee that he will be good.
We're clearly in rebuilding/reloading mode (once again) and not looking at any legit shot at contending this year. We've already spent a 1 AND a 2 to get him. So give the kid a chance to play and prove himself one way or the other so we can see what we got for that 1 AND 2.
The ENTIRE NFL passed over Kurt Warner completely.
The ENTIRE NFL passed over Drew Brees one time.
The ENTIRE NFL passed over Tom Brady FIVE TIMES.
The ENTIRE NFL passed over StudMuffin Derek Anderson FIVE TIMES (then threw him out with the garbage.)
Just because he fell to 22 because teams weren't looking for a QB doesn't mean he'll be no good - just like the mere fact that he was a 1st rounder doesn't guarantee that he will be good.
Very good points!!!
Dan Marino wasn't drafted until 27th overall.
The following QBs were drafted before him:
John Elway (#1)
Todd Blackledge (#7)
Jim Kelly (#14)
Tony Eason (#15)
Ken O'Brien (#24)
It's always been a crapshoot because if you looked at that draft order - #1, #14 and #27 all made the Hall of Fame.
I would be ALOT more comfortable if we drafted a QB in round 1 with intentions of finding out WHO he is and WHAT he is capable of before sending him off somewhere else. It's REALLY stupid to draft a guy in round 1 if your intentions aren't to play him.
It's not like we've played in 1 playoff game yet so I'm not sure what the panic ever was. Shula went to a Superbowl with David Woodley and how long did that keep Marino benched for?
- Tom F.
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