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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I'm a little surprised at Mack... better 2nd half of the season?

    @tour2ma said:

    I'm a little surprised at Mack... better 2nd half of the season?

    Reputation I fear......and lack of quality alternates. (Maurkice Pouncey out)

  • Like a high school popularity contest. Mack and Thomas made it on their names, while Barney should've made it on his play..... What a joke.

  • What about Schwartz? I thought he deserved it over Mack.

  • And NWA into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

    WSS

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  • W Westside Steve

    And NWA into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And NWA into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

    Straight out of Parma!

    @gftchris said:

    Cleveland - Pro-bowl TE factory.

    lol...

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  • So, here are my questions on Mack, if anyone knows about specifics of his contract situation.....

    a ) Since he's under contract. should it be assumed he cannot negotiate(or shop himself) with other teams?....I know he has an opt out, so Im guessing he has to opt out first and become a FA?.....anyone know?

    B ) His contract goes through 2018 or 19.....so can he opt out every year going forward, or is this the only year and if he doesnt use it he stays the term?....curious....

    gftChrisG 1 Reply

  • Doug Dieken:

    Thomas, Mack Made Pro Bowl With “Technique And Tenacity”, Not Simply Names « @CLETalkingHeads PODCAST

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
  • MudflyM Mudfly

    So, here are my questions on Mack, if anyone knows about specifics of his contract situation.....

    a ) Since he's under contract. should it be assumed he cannot negotiate(or shop himself) with other teams?....I know he has an opt out, so Im guessing he has to opt out first and become a FA?.....anyone know?

    B ) His contract goes through 2018 or 19.....so can he opt out every year going forward, or is this the only year and if he doesnt use it he stays the term?....curious....

    @mudfly said:

    So, here are my questions on Mack, if anyone knows about specifics of his contract situation.....

    a ) Since he's under contract. should it be assumed he cannot negotiate(or shop himself) with other teams?....I know he has an opt out, so Im guessing he has to opt out first and become a FA?.....anyone know?

    B ) His contract goes through 2018 or 19.....so can he opt out every year going forward, or is this the only year and if he doesnt use it he stays the term?....curious....

    Per my understanding:

    A) he would need to first opt out. I'm sure his agent will be doing things on the sly though and he wouldn't opt out without interest.

    😎 it's only this year.

    Tour2maT MudflyM 2 Replies

  • 40% of our o-line makes the Pro Bowl, yet we can't run or keep a QB healthy......... Guess our RBs really are that bad.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @mudfly said:

    So, here are my questions on Mack, if anyone knows about specifics of his contract situation.....

    a ) Since he's under contract. should it be assumed he cannot negotiate(or shop himself) with other teams?....I know he has an opt out, so Im guessing he has to opt out first and become a FA?.....anyone know?

    B ) His contract goes through 2018 or 19.....so can he opt out every year going forward, or is this the only year and if he doesnt use it he stays the term?....curious....

    Per my understanding:

    A) he would need to first opt out. I'm sure his agent will be doing things on the sly though and he wouldn't opt out without interest.

    😎 it's only this year.

    @gftchris said:

    B.) it's only this year.

    So this is the last opt out... interesting...

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @gftchris said:

    B.) it's only this year.

    So this is the last opt out... interesting...

    @tour2ma said:

    So this is the last opt out... interesting...

    So franchise/transition tag is not an option? He's the one guy l really think they need to make sure is around. This year was a step back but l think next year he will be a beast.

  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown

    @tour2ma said:

    So this is the last opt out... interesting...

    So franchise/transition tag is not an option? He's the one guy l really think they need to make sure is around. This year was a step back but l think next year he will be a beast.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    So franchise/transition tag is not an option? He's the one guy l really think they need to make sure is around. This year was a step back but l think next year he will be a beast.

    Not an option because it isn't an expiring contract.

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @tour2ma said:

    I'm a little surprised at Mack... better 2nd half of the season?

    Me too......very surprised, actually.....

    Honestly thought Thomas would be the only one......

    @mudfly said:

    Me too......very surprised, actually.....

    Honestly thought Thomas would be the only one......

    I'm surprised as well. Apparently Mack turned it on during the latter part of the season, but admittedly, evaluating the center position is beyond me. I saw him make a pretty crucial gaff a few weeks ago that resulted in an immediate sack, but who doesn't make errors? It's safe to say that Mack is gone after this year IMO, and honestly, who can blame him? So you're saying I can go make big bucks at a team with a good chance of winning and that isn't a drama fest? Umm...sign me up, right? Just need to hope Erving is THAT much better at the center position, and the offseason will give him a chance to correct his technique and/or strength issues. The good thing about Cam is that he's a notorious hard worker, so perhaps he can significantly raise his level of play.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @mudfly said:

    So, here are my questions on Mack, if anyone knows about specifics of his contract situation.....

    a ) Since he's under contract. should it be assumed he cannot negotiate(or shop himself) with other teams?....I know he has an opt out, so Im guessing he has to opt out first and become a FA?.....anyone know?

    B ) His contract goes through 2018 or 19.....so can he opt out every year going forward, or is this the only year and if he doesnt use it he stays the term?....curious....

    Per my understanding:

    A) he would need to first opt out. I'm sure his agent will be doing things on the sly though and he wouldn't opt out without interest.

    😎 it's only this year.

    @gftchris said:

    Per my understanding:

    A) he would need to first opt out. I'm sure his agent will be doing things on the sly though and he wouldn't opt out without interest.

    😎 it's only this year.

    Thanks.....

    Been hearing he's a lock to leave.....and he has repeated that winning is a BIG part of his decision.....so, in my mind, he is likely to leave.....

    But....damn....he has a great contract thats paying him $8 million for 3 more years.....and he would have to void that just to see what someone else is willing to pay him......

    Thats a big big BIG gamble on his part......should be interesting....

    gftChrisG 1 Reply

  • VesnaKociper said:

    Mark Bravado and Eric Heiden were two really good tight ends.

    Also, back in Jim Brown's day, that guy Gary Collingsworth was really good.

    I like the Mark Bravado moniker. And Eric Heiden was a big Nazi, wasn't he? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Heiden

    And just to set the record straight.....Gary Collins was worth a lot. He was a great WR for the Browns. Still holds the Browns record for TD catches.

    And the TEs back in JBs days were Johnny MilwaukeeBrewer and Milt Moron.

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @gftchris said:

    Per my understanding:

    A) he would need to first opt out. I'm sure his agent will be doing things on the sly though and he wouldn't opt out without interest.

    😎 it's only this year.

    Thanks.....

    Been hearing he's a lock to leave.....and he has repeated that winning is a BIG part of his decision.....so, in my mind, he is likely to leave.....

    But....damn....he has a great contract thats paying him $8 million for 3 more years.....and he would have to void that just to see what someone else is willing to pay him......

    Thats a big big BIG gamble on his part......should be interesting....

    @mudfly said:

    Thanks.....

    Been hearing he's a lock to leave.....and he has repeated that winning is a BIG part of his decision.....so, in my mind, he is likely to leave.....

    But....damn....he has a great contract thats paying him $8 million for 3 more years.....and he would have to void that just to see what someone else is willing to pay him......

    Thats a big big BIG gamble on his part......should be interesting....

    That's the one thing that might keep him here. It works in our favour he has had a down year as he'd struggle to get the same on the open market.

    That being said, I'd be truly flabbergasted if he stayed.

  • http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/12/when_it_comes_to_alex_mack_the.html

    Interesting article including that ProFootballFocus.com ranked Alex among the "five players who shouldn't have made the Pro Bowl."

    PFF's nominee in an answer to Gip's poll question? The Vikes' Joe Berger...

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/23/pro-5-players-who-shouldnt-have-made-the-pro-bowl

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/12/when_it_comes_to_alex_mack_the.html

    Interesting article including that ProFootballFocus.com ranked Alex among the "five players who shouldn't have made the Pro Bowl."

    PFF's nominee in an answer to Gip's poll question? The Vikes' Joe Berger...

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/23/pro-5-players-who-shouldnt-have-made-the-pro-bowl

    @tour2ma said:

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/12/when_it_comes_to_alex_mack_the.html

    Interesting article including that ProFootballFocus.com ranked Alex among the "five players who shouldn't have made the Pro Bowl."

    PFF's nominee in an answer to Gip's poll question? The Vikes' Joe Berger...

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/23/pro-5-players-who-shouldnt-have-made-the-pro-bowl

    Read another article with an opposite twist, suggesting 2 of our guys got snubbed......

    First is Barney, of course....and.....wait for it, cause everyones gonna think Benji.....But its SCHWARTZ!.....

    BAZINGA!!!!

  • Schwartz has improved every year he's been here. He's the kind of player we need to retain.

  • K Kent

    @tour2ma said:

    I'm a little surprised at Mack... better 2nd half of the season?

    Its one of those cases where he gets voted in on his name and reputation. Same with Thomas. They were not Pro Bowl caliber this year. Pro bowl is a joke nowadays, Id like to see it voted on by people actually in the league

    @kent said:

    Its one of those cases where he gets voted in on his name and reputation. Same with Thomas. They were not Pro Bowl caliber this year. Pro bowl is a joke nowadays, Id like to see it voted on by people actually in the league

    totally agree. mack got smacked around just about all yr...man he was terrible. jt i thought did not have a probowl yr either...although not as bad as mack was. Name and reputation is what it is..

    MudflyM 1 Reply
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