Kruger Knows What You're Feeling Mario
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Flug, your typically one of the better posters on this board but this post leaves me scratching my head.
What does Mario Williams have to do with Paul Kruger?
What does Rex Ryan have to do with Pettine?
What does the Buffalo Bills have to do with the Cleveland Browns?
Just another effort to discredit Pettine....but without any stats or facts.....just the same innuendo weve been hearing for weeks, without any backing....
Probably the reason he's using the Buffalo article to back his argument, because there are no facts, stats or articles relating to Cleveland that will support this Kruger coverage argument....
.... because there are no facts, stats or articles relating to Cleveland that will support this Kruger coverage argument....
How about 3-13 in year 2? I'd call those some important stats.
Not if we are talking about Kruger....how he is used....and how it relates to the Buffalo Defense....
And we are......

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Well you said People were posting worthless shit to discredit Pettine. All that needs to be said is 3-13.
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Well you said People were posting worthless shit to discredit Pettine. All that needs to be said is 3-13.
Well you said People were posting worthless shit to discredit Pettine. All that needs to be said is 3-13.
and you missed the point and context of the discussion......twice.....
But thanks for letting me know their record, cause no one here knew that....

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I was replying only to your statement regarding the attempted discrediting of Pettine. I don't know why you are having difficulty understanding that. Perhaps you are just being a contrarian.
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I was replying only to your statement regarding the attempted discrediting of Pettine. I don't know why you are having difficulty understanding that. Perhaps you are just being a contrarian.
Perhaps you are just being a contrarian.
Or....perhaps not.
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Ron Rivera is a horrible choice for your argument. He's been on the chopping block in Carolina for years but they stuck with him and the team has turned around. Cleveland fans would've run him out after year 2. 6-10 and 7-9 to start. Everyone in carolina hated him.
2 new coaches have worked....several haven't. It's not a guarantee that it will change if we hire the next coordinator. Could be Arians...could be Shurmer.
But obviously his teams were showing improvement . You don't see that here. We are looking at 3-13 not 7-9.
But obviously his teams were showing improvement . You don't see that here. We are looking at 3-13 not 7-9.
I don't think pettine gets fired...yet....However you make an excellent point. We will be 3-13 unless some miracle occurs. I think if this shit does not get fixed, whether it's this or that or that or this, if we start out like 0-4 next yr, he's gone and should be. There is a strong case that he should be fired after this yr., but i don't think it happens. Now the gm, that's another story. He may be gone after this yr. Someone is going to be. There has to be when you are 3-18 in your last 21 games...
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Ron Rivera is a horrible choice for your argument. He's been on the chopping block in Carolina for years but they stuck with him and the team has turned around. Cleveland fans would've run him out after year 2. 6-10 and 7-9 to start. Everyone in carolina hated him.
2 new coaches have worked....several haven't. It's not a guarantee that it will change if we hire the next coordinator. Could be Arians...could be Shurmer.
But obviously his teams were showing improvement . You don't see that here. We are looking at 3-13 not 7-9.
Rivera's Panthers went 12-4 in 2013.But obviously his teams were showing improvement . You don't see that here. We are looking at 3-13 not 7-9.
Then in 2014 their record regressed to 7-8-1.
Using your logic, Rivera should've been shitcanned at the end of 2014.
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If not for a playoff appearance both years he probably would have been. They actually won a playoff game last year when they went 7-8-1. Had they regressed this year he would be on the hot seat.
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