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  • OldBrownsFan OldBrownsFanO
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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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    Of course Trump will run to the right in the primary because in both the dems and republicans primaries it is the base that comes out and votes. Trump is crazy like a fox. He has tapped into the resentment voters have with the DC politicians who are sold out to special interest groups. The 1.1 trillion omnibus bill by Paul Ryan and the other republican sell outs is a great example of why the base of the republican party are looking to candidates not part of the establishment. Nancy Pelosi said Ryan and the republicans "gave away the store" for big oil. And they did. The voted to fund everything Obama wants and more and on social issues such as Planned Parenthood voted to fully fund them. So the voters in the republican party some of whom are fiscal conservatives and some who are social conservatives were all thrown to the ditch so the republican elites can throw a bone to big oil.

    Trump is not above pandering either. I saw him at a rally in the deep south (bible belt) humbly dismissing his own book as the greatest book ever written and saying of course it is the bible that is greatest book. When asked his favorite verse in the bible he could not name one however...come on Donald at least learn John 3:16.

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      Of course Trump will run to the right in the primary because in both the dems and republicans primaries it is the base that comes out and votes. Trump is crazy like a fox. He has tapped into the resentment voters have with the DC politicians who are sold out to special interest groups. The 1.1 trillion omnibus bill by Paul Ryan and the other republican sell outs is a great example of why the base of the republican party are looking to candidates not part of the establishment. Nancy Pelosi said Ryan and the republicans "gave away the store" for big oil. And they did. The voted to fund everything Obama wants and more and on social issues such as Planned Parenthood voted to fully fund them. So the voters in the republican party some of whom are fiscal conservatives and some who are social conservatives were all thrown to the ditch so the republican elites can throw a bone to big oil.

      Trump is not above pandering either. I saw him at a rally in the deep south (bible belt) humbly dismissing his own book as the greatest book ever written and saying of course it is the bible that is greatest book. When asked his favorite verse in the bible he could not name one however...come on Donald at least learn John 3:16.

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      @oldbrownsfan said:

      Trump is not above pandering either.

      Trump is exclusively all about pandering.

      It's the only way to win over the tea baggers at this point if you're a republican though. Otherwise you end up like Rand Paul or John Kasich.

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        @oldbrownsfan said:

        Trump is not above pandering either.

        Trump is exclusively all about pandering.

        It's the only way to win over the tea baggers at this point if you're a republican though. Otherwise you end up like Rand Paul or John Kasich.

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        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        @bbedward said:

        Trump is exclusively all about pandering.

        It's the only way to win over the tea baggers at this point if you're a republican though. Otherwise you end up like Rand Paul or John Kasich.

        What happened to Rand Paul is what happened to Rick Perry and Jeb Bush. There are lots of voters in the republican party fed up with establishment republicans and Trump has been their leader. Bush, Perry and Paul made the mistake of attacking Trump. (Christie did too at first but learned quickly that is a losing idea). Rand Paul is not an establishment republican but when he went after Trump early in the primaries he was throwing his hat in the ring with the establishment candidates like Jeb Bush.

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          @bbedward said:

          Trump is exclusively all about pandering.

          It's the only way to win over the tea baggers at this point if you're a republican though. Otherwise you end up like Rand Paul or John Kasich.

          What happened to Rand Paul is what happened to Rick Perry and Jeb Bush. There are lots of voters in the republican party fed up with establishment republicans and Trump has been their leader. Bush, Perry and Paul made the mistake of attacking Trump. (Christie did too at first but learned quickly that is a losing idea). Rand Paul is not an establishment republican but when he went after Trump early in the primaries he was throwing his hat in the ring with the establishment candidates like Jeb Bush.

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          @oldbrownsfan said:

          What happened to Rand Paul is what happened to Rick Perry and Jeb Bush. There are lots of voters in the republican party fed up with establishment republicans and Trump has been their leader. Bush, Perry and Paul made the mistake of attacking Trump. (Christie did too at first but learned quickly that is a losing idea). Rand Paul is not an establishment republican but when he went after Trump early in the primaries he was throwing his hat in the ring with the establishment candidates like Jeb Bush.

          I just can't get excited about the bush. He's Beau Bridges compared to Jeff Bridges. Rand Paul seems like a little bit of an outsider but doesn't have the balls to go completely libertarian.

          Rick Perry comes off as a dumbass.

          Ted Cruz is a bit too funny looking.

          I still think Trump is a sideshow Barker and I'd be surprised if he lasts.

          I don't see what more he could do, does anyone?

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            @oldbrownsfan said:

            What happened to Rand Paul is what happened to Rick Perry and Jeb Bush. There are lots of voters in the republican party fed up with establishment republicans and Trump has been their leader. Bush, Perry and Paul made the mistake of attacking Trump. (Christie did too at first but learned quickly that is a losing idea). Rand Paul is not an establishment republican but when he went after Trump early in the primaries he was throwing his hat in the ring with the establishment candidates like Jeb Bush.

            I just can't get excited about the bush. He's Beau Bridges compared to Jeff Bridges. Rand Paul seems like a little bit of an outsider but doesn't have the balls to go completely libertarian.

            Rick Perry comes off as a dumbass.

            Ted Cruz is a bit too funny looking.

            I still think Trump is a sideshow Barker and I'd be surprised if he lasts.

            I don't see what more he could do, does anyone?

            WSS

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            bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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            @westside-steve said:

            I still think Trump is a sideshow Barker and I'd be surprised if he lasts.

            I don't see what more he could do, does anyone?

            WSS

            They called him a sideshow for awhile now.

            We're about 30 days from Iowa now and he's got his biggest lead yet, I think it's time to buckle up for president elect Donald Trump.

            He's not my favorite candidate by far, but he's also far from my least favorite.

            I'm hoping for more sanity from him come general election time, but we'll see.

            He's in a position to reform the Republican party in a major way on huge issues - that could be a very good thing for the long term.

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              @oldbrownsfan said:

              What happened to Rand Paul is what happened to Rick Perry and Jeb Bush. There are lots of voters in the republican party fed up with establishment republicans and Trump has been their leader. Bush, Perry and Paul made the mistake of attacking Trump. (Christie did too at first but learned quickly that is a losing idea). Rand Paul is not an establishment republican but when he went after Trump early in the primaries he was throwing his hat in the ring with the establishment candidates like Jeb Bush.

              I just can't get excited about the bush. He's Beau Bridges compared to Jeff Bridges. Rand Paul seems like a little bit of an outsider but doesn't have the balls to go completely libertarian.

              Rick Perry comes off as a dumbass.

              Ted Cruz is a bit too funny looking.

              I still think Trump is a sideshow Barker and I'd be surprised if he lasts.

              I don't see what more he could do, does anyone?

              WSS

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              VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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              @westside-steve said:

              Ted Cruz is a bit too funny looking.

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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                holy fuck that guy is a fatter ted cruz.

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                  @westside-steve said:

                  I still think Trump is a sideshow Barker and I'd be surprised if he lasts.

                  I don't see what more he could do, does anyone?

                  WSS

                  They called him a sideshow for awhile now.

                  We're about 30 days from Iowa now and he's got his biggest lead yet, I think it's time to buckle up for president elect Donald Trump.

                  He's not my favorite candidate by far, but he's also far from my least favorite.

                  I'm hoping for more sanity from him come general election time, but we'll see.

                  He's in a position to reform the Republican party in a major way on huge issues - that could be a very good thing for the long term.

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                  OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                  @bbedward said:

                  They called him a sideshow for awhile now.

                  We're about 30 days from Iowa now and he's got his biggest lead yet, I think it's time to buckle up for president elect Donald Trump.

                  He's not my favorite candidate by far, but he's also far from my least favorite.

                  I'm hoping for more sanity from him come general election time, but we'll see.

                  He's in a position to reform the Republican party in a major way on huge issues - that could be a very good thing for the long term.

                  I was watching a show with three pollsters (who are all very good) and they brought up how these polls in the republican primaries have been notoriously inaccurate before the voting actually starts. These numbers have been known to turn on a dime. Trump has already faded in the first big test Iowa and is losing to Cruz. Right now it looks good for Trump nationally but he certainly does not have this locked up by any means.

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                    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                    Didn't Rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee lead the pack in Iowa?

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        I want Trump to win so we can finally just give into living in the movie Idiocracy.

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                          I want Trump to win so we can finally just give into living in the movie Idiocracy.

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                          @logicisforsquares said:

                          I want Trump to win so we can finally just give into living in the movie Idiocracy.

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                            I want Trump to win so we can finally just give into living in the movie Idiocracy.

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                            Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                            @logicisforsquares said:

                            I want Trump to win so we can finally just give into living in the movie Idiocracy.

                            I'd actually prefer Terry Crews.
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                                LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                  Didn't know someone's looks disqualified them from being a legitimate presidential candidate. That's as bad as saying the same about skin color or gender. But since libdiots perceive it as giving them an advantage it's ok.

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                                    Didn't know someone's looks disqualified them from being a legitimate presidential candidate. That's as bad as saying the same about skin color or gender. But since libdiots perceive it as giving them an advantage it's ok.

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                                    @pumpkin-eater said:

                                    Didn't know someone's looks disqualified them from being a legitimate presidential candidate. That's as bad as saying the same about skin color or gender. But since libdiots perceive it as giving them an advantage it's ok.

                                    Are you high? Looks have been the single most important aspect of a candidate since the advent of Television.

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                                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                      I am sure the general public would look past the physical appearance of a wonky eyed nice guy who understands the economy. It isn't a popularity contest.

                                      Waka waka!

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                                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                                        Looks have little value to me as it is what that is on the inside that counts but no doubt as Cysko states it is important with many in the public and does play a factor in elections. The best illustration was the Kennedy and Nixon debates in 1960. At the time there were many in this country who did not have televisions and listened to the debate on the radio. Those who listened on radio gave the debate to Nixon while those watching on television believed Kennedy won. It was obvious that voters who said Nixon won who listened on the radio were going by substance of the debate while those watching on television were factoring in appearance as well.

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                                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                                          A study in psychology class always stuck with me. They took a group of pictures of 25 *cute* children and listed a misbehavior offense they had done on the back of the picture and asked what the recommended punishment should be. They then showed another 25 photos of children who were not so cute with a list of the same offenses and asked what the punishment should be. Overwhelmingly the cute children were recommended for much less strict punishment over the other children who were recommended for harsher punishment. All of this was on looks/appearances. Looks are important in society no doubt. It shouldn't be that way but it is.

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