mario wlliams
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He is reported to be cut by the bills in the off season . would be a decent pick up
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It would be worth cutting Kruger to pick up Mario.
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If they cut Mario WIllams holy fucking shit. Yeah you pick that fucker up IMMEDIATELY. Physically that guy is on another food chain. He would be instantly the most talented edge we've had maybe in the history of the Browns, I dunno. But definitely since the team came back in 99. Use him right and he's a 15 sack MINIMUM guy. Watching him in the preseason before Rex started standing him up constantly, his run stopping technique is elite. Both him and Hughes are way way way more active in stopping the run than our edges. They don't just set the edge, they actively get off their blocks and at least get a hand on the runner often, which is a big deal when you have suspect ILB'ers like we have. Slowing up the runner for an instant might be enough to allow the LB'ers to get to the hole in time.
If we were to get Mario Williams it changes the draft. We probabl don't need to even look at D line then, go get that premier MLB'er.
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If Pettine is still here, it would make sense to bring Mario in.
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yes it would. He would probably also wouldn't mind playing for Pet, had good seasons under him. I would go so far as to say our front 7 production would have been vastly different this year with him on it. Yeah we need to find the right depth combo at all positions on the line, but I think a rotation of him, the bryants and orchard next year would be ridiculous. Interesting to see what happens next year. It's possible they may cut armonty depending on his legal problems. If they do, then maybe they still look ta Bosa in the draft. Bosa and Williams would be a ridiculous edge pair.
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Yes, yes, fuck yes, and yes. Coming off a 'down' season because of misuse from Rexy, and he's got a relationship with our coaching staff that might give us a leg up on the competition.
What about the money? He makes 100s of millions!
We have plenty of money. He's due $11.5m this year, which is a lot but not a salary breaking figure. A trade might work if we can throw a late rounder at them, in a 'give us anything and he's yours or we just cut him' kind of deal.
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Why would he want to go to the same type of defensive scheme he hated in Buffalo?
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Why would he want to go to the same type of defensive scheme he hated in Buffalo?
Why would he want to go to the same type of defensive scheme he hated in Buffalo?
He didn't hate it when Pettine ran it, in fact he was quite successful. Our system is based on Rex Ryan's but isn't the same.
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Why would he want to go to the same type of defensive scheme he hated in Buffalo?
He didn't hate it when Pettine ran it, in fact he was quite successful. Our system is based on Rex Ryan's but isn't the same.
He didn't hate it when Pettine ran it, in fact he was quite successful. Our system is based on Rex Ryan's but isn't the same.
Touche, Chris. Touche.
I've been a huge Williams fan since he was taken #1, and I was in the camp that favored his selection over Bush. Reggie Bush was one of the best college players I've ever seen, but a dominant pass rusher means the world in the NFL.
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I would take Williams in a hot second.....his pass rush is exactly what we need up front.....
And, rather than wait for the cut(which might get him cheaper).....Id offer Kruger and a later pick(we have a bunch of 5's)(Mingo too)....
That way we dump our overpriced pass rusher, making room for the REAL pass rusher AND cover a good part of his contract too
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I would take Williams in a hot second.....his pass rush is exactly what we need up front.....
And, rather than wait for the cut(which might get him cheaper).....Id offer Kruger and a later pick(we have a bunch of 5's)(Mingo too)....
That way we dump our overpriced pass rusher, making room for the REAL pass rusher AND cover a good part of his contract too
I would take Williams in a hot second.....his pass rush is exactly what we need up front.....
And, rather than wait for the cut(which might get him cheaper).....Id offer Kruger and a later pick(we have a bunch of 5's)(Mingo too)....
That way we dump our overpriced pass rusher, making room for the REAL pass rusher AND cover a good part of his contract too
DING DING DING.
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I would take Williams in a hot second.....his pass rush is exactly what we need up front.....
And, rather than wait for the cut(which might get him cheaper).....Id offer Kruger and a later pick(we have a bunch of 5's)(Mingo too)....
That way we dump our overpriced pass rusher, making room for the REAL pass rusher AND cover a good part of his contract too
Yeah you pull that off and I would be all for hearing at the next Browns press conference.......we would like to introduce the Cleveland Browns new GM, MudflyI would take Williams in a hot second.....his pass rush is exactly what we need up front.....
And, rather than wait for the cut(which might get him cheaper).....Id offer Kruger and a later pick(we have a bunch of 5's)(Mingo too)....
That way we dump our overpriced pass rusher, making room for the REAL pass rusher AND cover a good part of his contract too
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Ha!.....I know, I know......nobody would take Kruger and that contract.......(just a pipe dream)......
The only way to get rid of Kruger is gonna be to cut him out right.....and we have zero OLB's, so sad to say, we will probably keep him......
Hopefully, we will sign or draft his replacement......THEN we can have an $8,000,000 back up......
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Drop Bowe and make cap space available for Williams if it can be done that way. Bowe is a huge waste of bench space.
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Right....they HAVE TO cut Bowe.....have to.....no way he can stay another year.....
And, if he stays, they are paying him way more than the $9M people keep mentioning.....it'll be more like $12M, I do believe....
Right....they HAVE TO cut Bowe.....have to.....no way he can stay another year.....
And, if he stays, they are paying him way more than the $9M people keep mentioning.....it'll be more like $12M, I do believe....
IIRC, $12.5m over two years, fully guaranteed for the first year, half for year two, so we're on the hook for around $3m next year regardless. May be more intricate than that, but that is the simple version.
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Right....they HAVE TO cut Bowe.....have to.....no way he can stay another year.....
And, if he stays, they are paying him way more than the $9M people keep mentioning.....it'll be more like $12M, I do believe....
IIRC, $12.5m over two years, fully guaranteed for the first year, half for year two, so we're on the hook for around $3m next year regardless. May be more intricate than that, but that is the simple version.
IIRC, $12.5m over two years, fully guaranteed for the first year, half for year two, so we're on the hook for around $3m next year regardless. May be more intricate than that, but that is the simple version.
My take too.....
Same with Kruger.....we've "almost" met the guarantee with him too.......so, if we keep him, he's in at 7 or 8 million for the season.....but if we cut him, it only costs us 2.5 mil (or so)....
Back to Williams....my only concern would be his bitching bout the "system" and basically blaming his coach for his failure to play well this season.....kinda what Kruger did, but MUCH louder and in a more public way.....
That is worrisome.....
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