Rey was BEST USC LBer Against the Pass the last 4 years
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Is it you aren't sure or you disagree with the stats?
Well....i am pretty sure and bottom line is i don't think those stats tell us crap about his pass defense.
Just to be blunt.
You're basing it on his 2 picks??
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Is it you aren't sure or you disagree with the stats?
Well....i am pretty sure and bottom line is i don't think those stats tell us crap about his pass defense.
Just to be blunt.
You're basing it on his 2 picks??
Well....i am pretty sure and bottom line is i don't think those stats tell us crap about his pass defense.
Just to be blunt.
You're basing it on his 2 picks??
LOL! Comeon - do you REALLY think that is what I'm basing my arguement on? Although if you're yawning at 2 INTs in 1 season, Matthews and Cushing combined for 1 INT over the course of 4 years.
My title doesn't say best COVER LBer (because that's only HALF of what his Coach wanted from him). It says best USC LBer against the pass. Let me ask you during a day and age where LBers get named to Pro Bowls simply off sack volumes - are QB sacks considered an IMPORTANT part of a team's pass defense????
Hence, the reason I posted SACKS and INTs as stats here is because there's 2 responsibilities for LBers depending upon the scheme and the playcall. If the DC orders up an inside X-stunt - your ILBer is hunting QB on the play. If there isn't an Inside stunt blitz scheme - he better have his fanny back in the hook zone on time reading pass from the snap. When done right - you see Rey intercepting OSU QB for a TD. When done right at the Pro level you see Ray Lewis scoring 2 TDs on DA in his last 3 games vrs Cleveland. Teddy Bruschi is another LBer that isn't the FASTEST guy on the planet BUT he seems like he's intercepting ALOT of passes in hook zones in big games.
Back to the 4 year body of work - what USC LBer had more INTs than Rey? What LBer had more sacks than Rey over 4 years? What LBer's personal best season of sacks from USC exceeded Rey's 6 sacks in 2007? What USC LBer is most known for his violent collisions over the middle? I wouldn't be justifying why Rey has received the most performance honors and awards would I?
The point of this thread is to REMIND people that Rey CAN be very effective at rushing the passer when/if that's what his coach WANTS of him. If he's asked to drop into coverage - some of his best hits come on those slant routes crossing his face. That would be the presence our defense has lacked since Pepper Johnson was spicing us up in 1993. How many years ago was that???? It's 2009 right? I'm sorry but I want that guy whom opposing teams FEAR for once because it leads to the sissy Northcutt drops we've always treated our rivals in Pittsburgh in Baltimore too. Right now there isn't a team in this league afraid of crossing our middle on short slant routes so NOBODY drops passes against us.
Believe it or not, Taylor Mays would have been my first choice ABOVE Rey because he would be in the Center of our D AND he would add the type of goodies a Polly adds to a D whether he's in coverage disrupting Centerfield or he's the designated kill the Qb blitzer. Either way an opponent wants to know where he is at all times. We don't have this missing link to effective defense yet. Nothing wrong with dreaming.
- Tom F.
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Aloysius said:
I thought Laurinaitis was pretty good in that game. And though Rey made the big play, I think Cushing may have had a better overall game.Sure, Rey returned a pick for a touchdown, but he wasn't great for 60 minutes.
I don't need to rewatch games I already saw. Cush had a great game against Ohio State but are we talking 1 game or the season/career? That would be like me asking you who was the defensive player-of-the-game in the 2008 Rose Bowl? Rey was.
Lauranitis was perrtty good as opposed to good, very good, excellent or awesome. Translation: not good enough for impact vrs USC but capable of overwhelming against Indiana.
The guy amassed an enormous trophy case for being REAL good at ILBer. I never even knew who he was until his junior year. The first game USC game I caught some guy wearing #58 was freakin laying people out and I double dribbled my jaw off the floor about 4 times. I finally put 2 and 2 togethr and realized this must be the guy Shep kept gushing over and for GOOD reason.
Rey was named as a Consensus All American this last season and 1 more time I didn't have anything to do with that. Like I said, I STILL don't see where this guy turned into a sucky player the second they stopped playing ball in lieu of barbells and track spikes.
- Tom F.
I don't need to rewatch games I already saw. Cush had a great game against Ohio State but are we talking 1 game or the season/career? That would be like me asking you who was the defensive player-of-the-game in the 2008 Rose Bowl? Rey was.
Lauranitis was perrtty good as opposed to good, very good, excellent or awesome. Translation: not good enough for impact vrs USC but capable of overwhelming against Indiana.
The guy amassed an enormous trophy case for being REAL good at ILBer. I never even knew who he was until his junior year. The first game USC game I caught some guy wearing #58 was freakin laying people out and I double dribbled my jaw off the floor about 4 times. I finally put 2 and 2 togethr and realized this must be the guy Shep kept gushing over and for GOOD reason.
Rey was named as a Consensus All American this last season and 1 more time I didn't have anything to do with that. Like I said, I STILL don't see where this guy turned into a sucky player the second they stopped playing ball in lieu of barbells and track spikes.
- Tom F.
I agree with you my friend. Except, I do think Lauranitis is a very good ILB in the Urlacher mold. Sometimes you have to analyze the system they are being asked to play in vs a guy how may be consistantly let loose to rush the QB. JL dropped into coverage a whole lot. It wasn't his job to rush the QB on most downs. As far as Rey, he is a kick ass type of football player and I personally would take him over Orakpo, but then we signed Barton for a reson , I guess.
IMO, when we look back at this draft and people will be saying, how did all those teams bypass Rey. Just my opinion but I believe he is one of the few impact defensive players in this draft. There are a lot of solid players but I feel Rey will be an impact player that will make offenses change their game plans. So, to me, he isn't a reach.
Many draftniks may think otherwise, but that's my opinion and we won't really know until next Jan. If you want a "in your face", "kick ass" defense, then look no further.
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I don't need to rewatch games I already saw. Cush had a great game against Ohio State but are we talking 1 game or the season/career? That would be like me asking you who was the defensive player-of-the-game in the 2008 Rose Bowl? Rey was.
Lauranitis was perrtty good as opposed to good, very good, excellent or awesome. Translation: not good enough for impact vrs USC but capable of overwhelming against Indiana.
The guy amassed an enormous trophy case for being REAL good at ILBer. I never even knew who he was until his junior year. The first game USC game I caught some guy wearing #58 was freakin laying people out and I double dribbled my jaw off the floor about 4 times. I finally put 2 and 2 togethr and realized this must be the guy Shep kept gushing over and for GOOD reason.
Rey was named as a Consensus All American this last season and 1 more time I didn't have anything to do with that. Like I said, I STILL don't see where this guy turned into a sucky player the second they stopped playing ball in lieu of barbells and track spikes.
- Tom F.
I agree with you my friend. Except, I do think Lauranitis is a very good ILB in the Urlacher mold. Sometimes you have to analyze the system they are being asked to play in vs a guy how may be consistantly let loose to rush the QB. JL dropped into coverage a whole lot. It wasn't his job to rush the QB on most downs. As far as Rey, he is a kick ass type of football player and I personally would take him over Orakpo, but then we signed Barton for a reson , I guess.
IMO, when we look back at this draft and people will be saying, how did all those teams bypass Rey. Just my opinion but I believe he is one of the few impact defensive players in this draft. There are a lot of solid players but I feel Rey will be an impact player that will make offenses change their game plans. So, to me, he isn't a reach.
Many draftniks may think otherwise, but that's my opinion and we won't really know until next Jan. If you want a "in your face", "kick ass" defense, then look no further.
I agree with you my friend. Except, I do think Lauranitis is a very good ILB in the Urlacher mold. Sometimes you have to analyze the system they are being asked to play in vs a guy how may be consistantly let loose to rush the QB. JL dropped into coverage a whole lot. It wasn't his job to rush the QB on most downs. As far as Rey, he is a kick ass type of football player and I personally would take him over Orakpo, but then we signed Barton for a reson , I guess.
IMO, when we look back at this draft and people will be saying, how did all those teams bypass Rey. Just my opinion but I believe he is one of the few impact defensive players in this draft. There are a lot of solid players but I feel Rey will be an impact player that will make offenses change their game plans. So, to me, he isn't a reach.
Many draftniks may think otherwise, but that's my opinion and we won't really know until next Jan. If you want a "in your face", "kick ass" defense, then look no further.
Thanks Y'town. Great points!
I don't think Lauranitis stinks by any means and I always make sure I say I think he's good when I see he's being placed into the elite grouping. He's a likable kid that stays out of trouble and LOVES football. His coaches love him too because of the work ethic. All pluses. He's an Ohio boy so I understand he's a hometown favorite.
Lauranitis could go to the right system and play very well. I think asking him to go to a bad defense and become that team's saviour would be an unfair expectation for this kid. That being the case, I couldn't see him going in the upper half of round 1. Hey, who would have predicted Matt Wilhelm's NFL career would have outlived Andy Katzenmoyer's? Now add the fact that he's remained part of a starting rotation of LBers on a playoff defense and you learn that the art of pegging guys isn't an exact science.
- Tom F.
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I agree with you my friend. Except, I do think Lauranitis is a very good ILB in the Urlacher mold. Sometimes you have to analyze the system they are being asked to play in vs a guy how may be consistantly let loose to rush the QB. JL dropped into coverage a whole lot. It wasn't his job to rush the QB on most downs. As far as Rey, he is a kick ass type of football player and I personally would take him over Orakpo, but then we signed Barton for a reson , I guess.
IMO, when we look back at this draft and people will be saying, how did all those teams bypass Rey. Just my opinion but I believe he is one of the few impact defensive players in this draft. There are a lot of solid players but I feel Rey will be an impact player that will make offenses change their game plans. So, to me, he isn't a reach.
Many draftniks may think otherwise, but that's my opinion and we won't really know until next Jan. If you want a "in your face", "kick ass" defense, then look no further.
Thanks Y'town. Great points!
I don't think Lauranitis stinks by any means and I always make sure I say I think he's good when I see he's being placed into the elite grouping. He's a likable kid that stays out of trouble and LOVES football. His coaches love him too because of the work ethic. All pluses. He's an Ohio boy so I understand he's a hometown favorite.
Lauranitis could go to the right system and play very well. I think asking him to go to a bad defense and become that team's saviour would be an unfair expectation for this kid. That being the case, I couldn't see him going in the upper half of round 1. Hey, who would have predicted Matt Wilhelm's NFL career would have outlived Andy Katzenmoyer's? Now add the fact that he's remained part of a starting rotation of LBers on a playoff defense and you learn that the art of pegging guys isn't an exact science.
- Tom F.
Thanks Y'town. Great points!
I don't think Lauranitis stinks by any means and I always make sure I say I think he's good when I see he's being placed into the elite grouping. He's a likable kid that stays out of trouble and LOVES football. His coaches love him too because of the work ethic. All pluses. He's an Ohio boy so I understand he's a hometown favorite.
Lauranitis could go to the right system and play very well. I think asking him to go to a bad defense and become that team's saviour would be an unfair expectation for this kid. That being the case, I couldn't see him going in the upper half of round 1. Hey, who would have predicted Matt Wilhelm's NFL career would have outlived Andy Katzenmoyer's? Now add the fact that he's remained part of a starting rotation of LBers on a playoff defense and you learn that the art of pegging guys isn't an exact science.
- Tom F.
I agree, he's not in that elite class, but in a 4-3 system where he could control the middle of the field something like the Colts, Titans or Bears he would be an very good addition. He's actually a solid defender and has good zone coverage skills. He's never going to be a Ray Lewis or even Rey Maualuga moster at ILB but he'll be one of those solid guys that loves the game and will give you 100% every down.
As far a Rey, I wouldn't be afraid to take him at #5. But, as things stand now, I think we have a very good chance at trading down. They are making people nervous by bringing in Sanchez and talking about taking Crabtree.
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Aloysius said:
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Maualuga saw the field on 3rd down a lot more often than Cushing. Not sure why, but that makes comparing their INT numbers pretty misleading.Anyway, you see something totally different when you compare PBU's: Cushing had 6, whereas Maualuga only had 4. Cushing leads by two because he made two really nice plays in coverage in the Oregon game, perhaps the only game in which he got to be a true every down player (because Rey was hurt).
Neither of them is an elite cover guy, but I think Cushing's better than Rey.
Aloy,
I think you're an IDEAL student of the game that REALLY knows his stuff. Don't take this next part as an insult because it's not meant to be and I'm JUST as guilty of it toward certain players at times. However, when it comes to Rey: I don't think your OPINION of Rey LETS you see what I've shown and allows you to say "WOW, he really had 6 sacks from the inside in 2007?" There's ALOT of people on this board that think Rey is overrated whom will share your opinion. I just wanted to share some factual data that swims upstream against popular opinion that and reveals Rey had more sacks and INTs than the 2 other USC LBers whom will be drafted before round 2 starts up.
There were 3 seasons where Cush wasn't being replaced very often by Clay Matthews and he never collected 6 sacks or 1 INT. Rey has 5 INTs and 2 for TDs. I think he's better in the hook zones and at diagnosing the pass than people give him credit for. In fairness to Rey, I think ALOT of teams were afraid to throw the slant passes crossing his face. That's called presence and I didn't earn that for him.
I heard Pete Carroll in an interview saying Matthews came on so strong in 2008 - that his biggest challenge became finding enough reps for Clay. He said the reason this was such a challenge is because he had to take some all star caliber talent off the field to plug Clay into spots where he could help the team most. He said BOTH Rey and Cushing lost reps to Matthews; and research shows us Clay didn't have 1 main position.
- Tom F. (I probably sound like some Kirby Vaccuum Sales sweat in this thread but dadblast it - let's have some fun)
However, when it comes to Rey: I don't think your OPINION of Rey LETS you see what I've shown and allows you to say "WOW, he really had 6 sacks from the inside in 2007?" There's ALOT of people on this board that think Rey is overrated whom will share your opinion. I just wanted to share some factual data that swims upstream against popular opinion that and reveals Rey had more sacks and INTs than the 2 other USC LBers whom will be drafted before round 2 starts up.
We already went down this road once before, and it got ugly really quick. So I won't belabor the point.
I'll just say that if you look back at my posts in October, I had Curry and Maualuga rated almost equally. After that, I watched several games of each guy, keying exclusively on them. And when I scrutinized them very closely, Curry's play impressed me even more and Maualuga's impressed me a lot less.
Only after that did I start looking at the character stuff, which soured me a little more on Maualuga. I think I just put a greater emphasis on intelligence and character than you do; the three guys you really like high in the draft - Maualuga, Harvin, and Andre Smith - all have character red flags and scored very low on the Wonderlic. Stuff like that scares me away from guys.
I heard Pete Carroll in an interview saying Matthews came on so strong in 2008 - that his biggest challenge became finding enough reps for Clay. He said the reason this was such a challenge is because he had to take some all star caliber talent off the field to plug Clay into spots where he could help the team most. He said BOTH Rey and Cushing lost reps to Matthews; and research shows us Clay didn't have 1 main position.
Interesting. Because when I keyed on Maualuga, I rarely saw him come off the field. Maybe Matthews occasionally blitzed from the ILB spot, but it's not like he was eating into Maualuga's reps at the position.
I don't need to rewatch games I already saw.
Well, then I guess you're not at all like me. I was holding two empty beer cans by the time that game started, didn't watch the 4th quarter, and - more importantly - wasn't really focusing on Maualuga. I noticed a lot of new things when I watched the game a second time.
But that's just me.
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However, when it comes to Rey: I don't think your OPINION of Rey LETS you see what I've shown and allows you to say "WOW, he really had 6 sacks from the inside in 2007?" There's ALOT of people on this board that think Rey is overrated whom will share your opinion. I just wanted to share some factual data that swims upstream against popular opinion that and reveals Rey had more sacks and INTs than the 2 other USC LBers whom will be drafted before round 2 starts up.
We already went down this road once before, and it got ugly really quick. So I won't belabor the point.
I'll just say that if you look back at my posts in October, I had Curry and Maualuga rated almost equally. After that, I watched several games of each guy, keying exclusively on them. And when I scrutinized them very closely, Curry's play impressed me even more and Maualuga's impressed me a lot less.
Only after that did I start looking at the character stuff, which soured me a little more on Maualuga. I think I just put a greater emphasis on intelligence and character than you do; the three guys you really like high in the draft - Maualuga, Harvin, and Andre Smith - all have character red flags and scored very low on the Wonderlic. Stuff like that scares me away from guys.
I heard Pete Carroll in an interview saying Matthews came on so strong in 2008 - that his biggest challenge became finding enough reps for Clay. He said the reason this was such a challenge is because he had to take some all star caliber talent off the field to plug Clay into spots where he could help the team most. He said BOTH Rey and Cushing lost reps to Matthews; and research shows us Clay didn't have 1 main position.
Interesting. Because when I keyed on Maualuga, I rarely saw him come off the field. Maybe Matthews occasionally blitzed from the ILB spot, but it's not like he was eating into Maualuga's reps at the position.
I don't need to rewatch games I already saw.
Well, then I guess you're not at all like me. I was holding two empty beer cans by the time that game started, didn't watch the 4th quarter, and - more importantly - wasn't really focusing on Maualuga. I noticed a lot of new things when I watched the game a second time.
But that's just me.
Aloysius said:
We already went down this road once before, and it got ugly really quick. So I won't belabor the point.I'll just say that if you look back at my posts in October, I had Curry and Maualuga rated almost equally. After that, I watched several games of each guy, keying exclusively on them. And when I scrutinized them very closely, Curry's play impressed me even more and Maualuga's impressed me a lot less.
Only after that did I start looking at the character stuff, which soured me a little more on Maualuga. I think I just put a greater emphasis on intelligence and character than you do; the three guys you really like high in the draft - Maualuga, Harvin, and Andre Smith - all have character red flags and scored very low on the Wonderlic. Stuff like that scares me away from guys.
Interesting. Because when I keyed on Maualuga, I rarely saw him come off the field. Maybe Matthews occasionally blitzed from the ILB spot, but it's not like he was eating into Maualuga's reps at the position.
Well, then I guess you're not at all like me. I was holding two empty beer cans by the time that game started, didn't watch the 4th quarter, and - more importantly - wasn't really focusing on Maualuga. I noticed a lot of new things when I watched the game a second time.
But that's just me.
I started this thread showing sack and INT stats for a 4 year body of work for the 3 USC LBers slated to go within the first 2 rounds of this draft. I ALSO complimented you in this thread. Therefore, I'm not gonna take the guilt trip for your self-induced fuss here. Since you chose not to belabor the point only to belabor the point - here you be:
Like I said, it's just 1 game in 4 years. Maybe we're just different - I don't lose my memory on 2 beers in 3 hours. If I did, I don't think mixing the 2 would make much sense if the sum of it added up to - need to re-watch when more coherent. Besides, I'm not big on re-watching games my favorite teams lose. I've never re-watched the The Drive or The Fumble. If you like throwing up better than me - then have at it.
Since you ARE compelled to make this September 13th Game the rule instead of the exception - I'll ask: If Pete Carroll AND Kenny Norton feel like Rey needed to stay on the field - whom are they telling you they believe in MORE against the pass? And later in the game when Rey INT'd the ball, did that burn Carroll and Norton for feeling that way? No, they added another TD. LUCKY for you, I said this was ONLY 1 game because as the season went on, Rey WAS coming off the field. Maybe this can be reflected by Rey was def MVP of the 2008 Rose Bowl & the 2009 Rose Bowl Def MVP was ILBer Kaluka Maiava. In the RB, Matthews replaced Rey a couple of times and put tremendous heat on PSU's QB from inside X-stunts. I really wasn't keeping track of whom Clay was replacing more at the time to be honest because I never thought I'd have you going Judge Judy on me about it later. I think you'll see there's print out there that indicates Clay played inside and outside and he's been called the guy without a position. That's not me being creative - that's me refusing to contort the truth with convenience of arguement.
I haven't READ or heard about character concerns about Harvin beyond you sending me something about him getting thrown out of a high school game when he was 17 or 18 years old. Does being a stupid teenager mean someone shoudn't hire you when you're 22 or 23? If so, do you know how many of us in the Dawg Pound shouldn't have ever been hired according to your criteria? And how much has Percy Harvin's character backfired on Urban Meyer in the last 3 years? From where I'm sitting, I count 2 National Championships with Harvin representing a VERY important prong of attack. That doesn't happen is Meyer is a guy that makes bad personnel choices. If you can get creative and PROVE Harvin's character ruined Florida's football program - run it. What I HAVE read about Harvin is he wanted to be #1 in the weight room and on the practice field. Sound like a passionate football player making football #1 in his life? Or do you got a story of him getting kicked out of Cub Scouts for eating too many Brownies to share with us?
Dan Marino, Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, Laverneus Coles, Bruce Smith, Jones-Drew, Bob Hayes, Erik Williams, Lawrence Taylor all had these character issues you speak of. We stayed away from those types and drafted an alter boy with manners named Courtney Brown. We were great at helping our opponents back to their feet and saying thank you while they were kicking our fannies on game day. "Love thy enemy." Me? I'd rather get some mean basterds willing to be naughty on Sunday so we can keep some freakin scores down for a change. I think we're confusing Sunday School with competitive football on Sundays. Ray Lewis and Jamal Lewis had character issues didn't they? At what point did that ruin their championship run? Maybe my problem is I'm too old for new millenium criteria. I grew up playing football on grass, dirt and mudd with my buddies instead of Madden video screens. Seems like tackling has become a lost art for the Cleveland Browns so I still enjoy the throwback players that drive through the man into the turf and intimidate people.
- Tom F.
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Aloysius said:
We already went down this road once before, and it got ugly really quick. So I won't belabor the point.I'll just say that if you look back at my posts in October, I had Curry and Maualuga rated almost equally. After that, I watched several games of each guy, keying exclusively on them. And when I scrutinized them very closely, Curry's play impressed me even more and Maualuga's impressed me a lot less.
Only after that did I start looking at the character stuff, which soured me a little more on Maualuga. I think I just put a greater emphasis on intelligence and character than you do; the three guys you really like high in the draft - Maualuga, Harvin, and Andre Smith - all have character red flags and scored very low on the Wonderlic. Stuff like that scares me away from guys.
Interesting. Because when I keyed on Maualuga, I rarely saw him come off the field. Maybe Matthews occasionally blitzed from the ILB spot, but it's not like he was eating into Maualuga's reps at the position.
Well, then I guess you're not at all like me. I was holding two empty beer cans by the time that game started, didn't watch the 4th quarter, and - more importantly - wasn't really focusing on Maualuga. I noticed a lot of new things when I watched the game a second time.
But that's just me.
I started this thread showing sack and INT stats for a 4 year body of work for the 3 USC LBers slated to go within the first 2 rounds of this draft. I ALSO complimented you in this thread. Therefore, I'm not gonna take the guilt trip for your self-induced fuss here. Since you chose not to belabor the point only to belabor the point - here you be:
Like I said, it's just 1 game in 4 years. Maybe we're just different - I don't lose my memory on 2 beers in 3 hours. If I did, I don't think mixing the 2 would make much sense if the sum of it added up to - need to re-watch when more coherent. Besides, I'm not big on re-watching games my favorite teams lose. I've never re-watched the The Drive or The Fumble. If you like throwing up better than me - then have at it.
Since you ARE compelled to make this September 13th Game the rule instead of the exception - I'll ask: If Pete Carroll AND Kenny Norton feel like Rey needed to stay on the field - whom are they telling you they believe in MORE against the pass? And later in the game when Rey INT'd the ball, did that burn Carroll and Norton for feeling that way? No, they added another TD. LUCKY for you, I said this was ONLY 1 game because as the season went on, Rey WAS coming off the field. Maybe this can be reflected by Rey was def MVP of the 2008 Rose Bowl & the 2009 Rose Bowl Def MVP was ILBer Kaluka Maiava. In the RB, Matthews replaced Rey a couple of times and put tremendous heat on PSU's QB from inside X-stunts. I really wasn't keeping track of whom Clay was replacing more at the time to be honest because I never thought I'd have you going Judge Judy on me about it later. I think you'll see there's print out there that indicates Clay played inside and outside and he's been called the guy without a position. That's not me being creative - that's me refusing to contort the truth with convenience of arguement.
I haven't READ or heard about character concerns about Harvin beyond you sending me something about him getting thrown out of a high school game when he was 17 or 18 years old. Does being a stupid teenager mean someone shoudn't hire you when you're 22 or 23? If so, do you know how many of us in the Dawg Pound shouldn't have ever been hired according to your criteria? And how much has Percy Harvin's character backfired on Urban Meyer in the last 3 years? From where I'm sitting, I count 2 National Championships with Harvin representing a VERY important prong of attack. That doesn't happen is Meyer is a guy that makes bad personnel choices. If you can get creative and PROVE Harvin's character ruined Florida's football program - run it. What I HAVE read about Harvin is he wanted to be #1 in the weight room and on the practice field. Sound like a passionate football player making football #1 in his life? Or do you got a story of him getting kicked out of Cub Scouts for eating too many Brownies to share with us?
Dan Marino, Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, Laverneus Coles, Bruce Smith, Jones-Drew, Bob Hayes, Erik Williams, Lawrence Taylor all had these character issues you speak of. We stayed away from those types and drafted an alter boy with manners named Courtney Brown. We were great at helping our opponents back to their feet and saying thank you while they were kicking our fannies on game day. "Love thy enemy." Me? I'd rather get some mean basterds willing to be naughty on Sunday so we can keep some freakin scores down for a change. I think we're confusing Sunday School with competitive football on Sundays. Ray Lewis and Jamal Lewis had character issues didn't they? At what point did that ruin their championship run? Maybe my problem is I'm too old for new millenium criteria. I grew up playing football on grass, dirt and mudd with my buddies instead of Madden video screens. Seems like tackling has become a lost art for the Cleveland Browns so I still enjoy the throwback players that drive through the man into the turf and intimidate people.
- Tom F.
If memory serves me right - I started this thread showing sack and INT stats for a 4 year body of work for the 3 USC LBers slated to go within the first 2 rounds of this draft. That wasn't even close to an attack on you so I'm not taking the guilt trip for your self-induced fuss here. Since you chose not to belabor the point only to belabor the point - here's some feeback on those points:
Like I said, it's just 1 game in 4 years and that's just me. Maybe we're just different - I don't lose my memory on 2 beers in 3 hours. I'm not big on re-watching games my favorite teams lose. I've never re-watched the The Drive or The Fumble. If you like throwing up better than me - then have at it.
Since you ARE compelled to make MORE out of this 1 game than the entire season - I'll ask this question while you remain consistent with your philosophy: If Pete Carroll AND Kenny Norton feel like Rey needed to stay on the field - whom are they telling you they believe in MORE against the pass? And later in the game when Rey INT'd the ball, did that burn Carroll and Norton for feeling that way? No, they added another TD and all the FASTER and more agile players than Rey couldn't touch him or catch him for some reason. LUCKY for you, I said this was ONLY 1 game because as the season went on, Rey WAS coming off the field. While Rey was def MVP of the 2008 Rose Bowl, this year's Rose Bowl Def MVP was ILBer Kaluka Maiava. In that game, Matthews replaced Rey a couple of times and put tremendous heat on PSU's QB from instide X-stunts. I really wasn't keeping track of whom he was replacing more at the time to be honest because I never thought I'd have you going Judge Judy on me about it later. I think you'll see there's print out there that indicates Clay played inside and outside and he's been called the guy without a position. That's not me being creative - that's me refusing to contort the truth with convenience of arguement.
I haven't READ or heard about character concerns about Harvin beyond you sending me something about him getting thrown out of a high school game when he was 17 or 18 years old. Does being a stupid teenager mean someone shoudn't hire you when you're 22 or 23? If so, do you know how many of us in the Dawg Pound shouldn't have ever been hired according to your criteria? And how much has Percy Harvin's character backfired on Urban Meyer in the last 3 years? From where I'm sitting, I count 2 National Championships with Harvin representing a VERY important prong of attack.
Dan Marino, Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, Laverneus Coles, Bruce Smith, Jones-Drew, Bob Hayes, Erik Williams, Lawrence Taylor all had these character issues you speak of. We stayed away from those types and drafted an alter boy with manners named Courtney Brown. We were great at helping our opponents back to their feet while they were kicking our fannies on game day. "Love thy enemy." Me? I'd rather get some mean basterds willing to be naughty on Sunday so we can keep some freakin scores down for a change. I think we're confusing Sunday School with competitive football on Sundays. Ray Lewis and Jamal Lewis had character issues didn't they? AT what point did that ruin their championship run? Maybe my problem is I'm too old for new millenium criteria. I grew up playing football on grass, dirt and mudd with my buddies instead of Madden video screens. Seems like tackling has become a lost art for the Cleveland Browns so I still enjoy the throwback players that drive through the man into the turf and intimidate people. Sorry.
- Tom F.
Flugs, great post, I just want to add a few things, I believe all the negatives regarding Rey is a bunch of B.S., Rey has been a dominant player at USC for the past 4 years and people make me laugh when I hear people say Cushing and Matthews are better than him, the other thing is everyone talking about Curry like he's the best LB to come out in years, truth is until this past season Curry was looked at as no more than a 3rd round choice at best, so now the guy has one great year playing in a weak ACC and looks good in shorts at the combine and he is the new flavor of the year whereas Rey as been performing at a high level for the past 4 years playing against much better competition and in bigger games than Curry. Aaron Curry has had ONE DOMINAT YEAR, Rey has had 4.
The other thing is I am glad you brought up this character issue, these guys are football players, I want good football players unless they are out shooting people or abusing drugs I could care less about a wonderlic score or other trivial things young guys get into after all these are kids and we all made mistake when we were kids, I am so tired of us selecting these so called good guys who suck on the football field.
As you mentioned guys like Harvin, Andre Smith and Rey have talent all you have to do is look at what they have done on the field to realize what type of football players these guys will be.
IMO of all the defensive players in the draft Rey I feel will have the largest impact on defense for whichever team drafts him, this guy will be a difference maker in so many ways on the field. watch the film the guy makes plays and big plays at times that change the course of a game and thats what I consider a IMPACT PLAYER.
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If memory serves me right - I started this thread showing sack and INT stats for a 4 year body of work for the 3 USC LBers slated to go within the first 2 rounds of this draft. That wasn't even close to an attack on you so I'm not taking the guilt trip for your self-induced fuss here. Since you chose not to belabor the point only to belabor the point - here's some feeback on those points:
Like I said, it's just 1 game in 4 years and that's just me. Maybe we're just different - I don't lose my memory on 2 beers in 3 hours. I'm not big on re-watching games my favorite teams lose. I've never re-watched the The Drive or The Fumble. If you like throwing up better than me - then have at it.
Since you ARE compelled to make MORE out of this 1 game than the entire season - I'll ask this question while you remain consistent with your philosophy: If Pete Carroll AND Kenny Norton feel like Rey needed to stay on the field - whom are they telling you they believe in MORE against the pass? And later in the game when Rey INT'd the ball, did that burn Carroll and Norton for feeling that way? No, they added another TD and all the FASTER and more agile players than Rey couldn't touch him or catch him for some reason. LUCKY for you, I said this was ONLY 1 game because as the season went on, Rey WAS coming off the field. While Rey was def MVP of the 2008 Rose Bowl, this year's Rose Bowl Def MVP was ILBer Kaluka Maiava. In that game, Matthews replaced Rey a couple of times and put tremendous heat on PSU's QB from instide X-stunts. I really wasn't keeping track of whom he was replacing more at the time to be honest because I never thought I'd have you going Judge Judy on me about it later. I think you'll see there's print out there that indicates Clay played inside and outside and he's been called the guy without a position. That's not me being creative - that's me refusing to contort the truth with convenience of arguement.
I haven't READ or heard about character concerns about Harvin beyond you sending me something about him getting thrown out of a high school game when he was 17 or 18 years old. Does being a stupid teenager mean someone shoudn't hire you when you're 22 or 23? If so, do you know how many of us in the Dawg Pound shouldn't have ever been hired according to your criteria? And how much has Percy Harvin's character backfired on Urban Meyer in the last 3 years? From where I'm sitting, I count 2 National Championships with Harvin representing a VERY important prong of attack.
Dan Marino, Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, Laverneus Coles, Bruce Smith, Jones-Drew, Bob Hayes, Erik Williams, Lawrence Taylor all had these character issues you speak of. We stayed away from those types and drafted an alter boy with manners named Courtney Brown. We were great at helping our opponents back to their feet while they were kicking our fannies on game day. "Love thy enemy." Me? I'd rather get some mean basterds willing to be naughty on Sunday so we can keep some freakin scores down for a change. I think we're confusing Sunday School with competitive football on Sundays. Ray Lewis and Jamal Lewis had character issues didn't they? AT what point did that ruin their championship run? Maybe my problem is I'm too old for new millenium criteria. I grew up playing football on grass, dirt and mudd with my buddies instead of Madden video screens. Seems like tackling has become a lost art for the Cleveland Browns so I still enjoy the throwback players that drive through the man into the turf and intimidate people. Sorry.
- Tom F.
Flugs, great post, I just want to add a few things, I believe all the negatives regarding Rey is a bunch of B.S., Rey has been a dominant player at USC for the past 4 years and people make me laugh when I hear people say Cushing and Matthews are better than him, the other thing is everyone talking about Curry like he's the best LB to come out in years, truth is until this past season Curry was looked at as no more than a 3rd round choice at best, so now the guy has one great year playing in a weak ACC and looks good in shorts at the combine and he is the new flavor of the year whereas Rey as been performing at a high level for the past 4 years playing against much better competition and in bigger games than Curry. Aaron Curry has had ONE DOMINAT YEAR, Rey has had 4.
The other thing is I am glad you brought up this character issue, these guys are football players, I want good football players unless they are out shooting people or abusing drugs I could care less about a wonderlic score or other trivial things young guys get into after all these are kids and we all made mistake when we were kids, I am so tired of us selecting these so called good guys who suck on the football field.
As you mentioned guys like Harvin, Andre Smith and Rey have talent all you have to do is look at what they have done on the field to realize what type of football players these guys will be.
IMO of all the defensive players in the draft Rey I feel will have the largest impact on defense for whichever team drafts him, this guy will be a difference maker in so many ways on the field. watch the film the guy makes plays and big plays at times that change the course of a game and thats what I consider a IMPACT PLAYER.
Flugs, great post, I just want to add a few things, I believe all the negatives regarding Rey is a bunch of B.S., Rey has been a dominant player at USC for the past 4 years and people make me laugh when I hear people say Cushing and Matthews are better than him, the other thing is everyone talking about Curry like he's the best LB to come out in years, truth is until this past season Curry was looked at as no more than a 3rd round choice at best, so now the guy has one great year playing in a weak ACC and looks good in shorts at the combine and he is the new flavor of the year whereas Rey as been performing at a high level for the past 4 years playing against much better competition and in bigger games than Curry. Aaron Curry has had ONE DOMINAT YEAR, Rey has had 4.
The other thing is I am glad you brought up this character issue, these guys are football players, I want good football players unless they are out shooting people or abusing drugs I could care less about a wonderlic score or other trivial things young guys get into after all these are kids and we all made mistake when we were kids, I am so tired of us selecting these so called good guys who suck on the football field.
As you mentioned guys like Harvin, Andre Smith and Rey have talent all you have to do is look at what they have done on the field to realize what type of football players these guys will be.
IMO of all the defensive players in the draft Rey I feel will have the largest impact on defense for whichever team drafts him, this guy will be a difference maker in so many ways on the field. watch the film the guy makes plays and big plays at times that change the course of a game and thats what I consider a IMPACT PLAYER.
Thanks SONY! Some good points about character and Rey. I actually LIKE Curry a ton; but it's not like anyone goes out of their way to post video collages of his worst moments or acknowledges he plays in weak conference. Even his Bowl matchup, Navy was running a 1940s offense and Wake Forest struggled much of the game on both sides of the ball. Not Curry's fault and I LIKE him but... I'd even take him over Rey BUT he'll be gone before we pick I think. I just think there's been a lot of creativity to describe Rey as Over-REY-ted. I edited my post with some updates about character since it's a new page and I don't want to clarify/re-explain things anymore - this is in response to Aloy's comments:
I started this thread showing sack and INT stats for a 4 year body of work for the 3 USC LBers slated to go within the first 2 rounds of this draft. I ALSO complimented you in this thread. Therefore, I'm not gonna take the guilt trip for your self-induced fuss here. Since you chose not to belabor the point only to belabor the point - here you be:
Like I said, it's just 1 game in 4 years. Maybe we're just different - I don't lose my memory on 2 beers in 3 hours. If I did, I don't think mixing the 2 would make much sense if the sum of it added up to - need to re-watch when more coherent. Besides, I'm not big on re-watching games my favorite teams lose. I've never re-watched the The Drive or The Fumble. If you like throwing up better than me - then have at it.
Since you ARE compelled to make this September 13th Game the rule instead of the exception - I'll ask: If Pete Carroll AND Kenny Norton feel like Rey needed to stay on the field - whom are they telling you they believe in MORE against the pass? And later in the game when Rey INT'd the ball, did that burn Carroll and Norton for feeling that way? No, they added another TD. LUCKY for you, I said this was ONLY 1 game because as the season went on, Rey WAS coming off the field. Maybe this can be reflected by Rey was def MVP of the 2008 Rose Bowl & the 2009 Rose Bowl Def MVP was ILBer Kaluka Maiava. In the RB, Matthews replaced Rey a couple of times and put tremendous heat on PSU's QB from inside X-stunts. I really wasn't keeping track of whom Clay was replacing more at the time to be honest because I never thought I'd have you going Judge Judy on me about it later. I think you'll see there's print out there that indicates Clay played inside and outside and he's been called the guy without a position. That's not me being creative - that's me refusing to contort the truth with convenience of arguement.
I haven't READ or heard about character concerns about Harvin beyond you sending me something about him getting thrown out of a high school game when he was 17 or 18 years old. Does being a stupid teenager mean someone shoudn't hire you when you're 22 or 23? If so, do you know how many of us in the Dawg Pound shouldn't have ever been hired according to your criteria? And how much has Percy Harvin's character backfired on Urban Meyer in the last 3 years? From where I'm sitting, I count 2 National Championships with Harvin representing a VERY important prong of attack. That doesn't happen if Meyer is a guy that makes bad personnel choices. If you can get creative and PROVE Harvin's character ruined Florida's football program - run it. What I HAVE read about Harvin is he wanted to be #1 in the weight room and on the practice field. Sound like a passionate football player making football #1 in his life? Or do you got a story of him getting kicked out of Cub Scouts for eating too many Brownies?
Dan Marino, Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, Laverneus Coles, Bruce Smith, Jones-Drew, Bob Hayes, Erik Williams, Lawrence Taylor all had these character issues you speak of. We stayed away from those types and drafted an alter boy with manners named Courtney Brown. We were great at helping our opponents back to their feet and saying thank you while they were kicking our fannies on game day. "Love thy enemy." Me? I'd rather get some mean basterds willing to be naughty on Sunday so we can keep some freakin scores down for a change. I think we're confusing Sunday School with competitive football on Sundays. Ray Lewis and Jamal Lewis had character issues didn't they? At what point did that ruin their championship run? Maybe my problem is I'm too old for new millenium criteria. I grew up playing football on grass, dirt and mudd with my buddies instead of Madden video screens. Seems like tackling has become a lost art for the Cleveland Browns so I still enjoy the throwback players that drive through the man into the turf and intimidate people.
- Tom F.
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Flugs, I like Rey more and more and a lot of it is from what you're saying regarding just needing a bad ass out there. I can live with the occasional mistake, but a difference maker is needed.
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Come on, Tom. Let's kiss & make up.
All I was saying is when I'm making my way through a Sam Adams six-pack while watching a game with a bunch of Buckeyes fans, I'll get up & cheer when Daniel Herron breaks off a long run. But I probably won't notice that Maualuga's overpursuit helped set it up.
Re-watching a game long after it's ended helps you notice things you wouldn't catch when it's live. When already you know what's going to happen, you can more easily key on how individual players performed. And because you're not anticipating a Buckeyes victory, it shouldn't be painful to go back on the DVR a few weeks later & watch Maualuga play.
And about the character thing: yes, I emphasize character more than you do. That doesn't mean I'm right: it just means I'm a little more concerned about that stuff. I'd probably be too overcautious and miss out on a Warren Sapp, and you'd probably cast aside concerns & draft a TO. Because of that, we end up disagreeing about Maualuga's character concerns. That's pretty much to be expected - no need to fight about it.
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love is a beautiful thing 
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Come on, Tom. Let's kiss & make up.
All I was saying is when I'm making my way through a Sam Adams six-pack while watching a game with a bunch of Buckeyes fans, I'll get up & cheer when Daniel Herron breaks off a long run. But I probably won't notice that Maualuga's overpursuit helped set it up.
Re-watching a game long after it's ended helps you notice things you wouldn't catch when it's live. When already you know what's going to happen, you can more easily key on how individual players performed. And because you're not anticipating a Buckeyes victory, it shouldn't be painful to go back on the DVR a few weeks later & watch Maualuga play.
And about the character thing: yes, I emphasize character more than you do. That doesn't mean I'm right: it just means I'm a little more concerned about that stuff. I'd probably be too overcautious and miss out on a Warren Sapp, and you'd probably cast aside concerns & draft a TO. Because of that, we end up disagreeing about Maualuga's character concerns. That's pretty much to be expected - no need to fight about it.
Aloysius said:
Come on, Tom. Let's kiss & make up.All I was saying is when I'm making my way through a Sam Adams six-pack while watching a game with a bunch of Buckeyes fans, I'll get up & cheer when Daniel Herron breaks off a long run. But I probably won't notice that Maualuga's overpursuit helped set it up.
Re-watching a game long after it's ended helps you notice things you wouldn't catch when it's live. When already you know what's going to happen, you can more easily key on how individual players performed. And because you're not anticipating a Buckeyes victory, it shouldn't be painful to go back on the DVR a few weeks later & watch Maualuga play.
And about the character thing: yes, I emphasize character more than you do. That doesn't mean I'm right: it just means I'm a little more concerned about that stuff. I'd probably be too overcautious and miss out on a Warren Sapp, and you'd probably cast aside concerns & draft a TO. Because of that, we end up disagreeing about Maualuga's character concerns. That's pretty much to be expected - no need to fight about it.
LOL! We're cool. While we were disagreeing about Rey - I shot you over a "Great stuff" reply about your post regarding Michael Johnson. I gotta realize not everyone is going to like Rey the way I do.
- Tom F.
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I'm betting that Flugs has the nicer ass.
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http://mvn.com/outsider/2009/03/nfl-outsid...-cleveland.html
Interesting article on why the Browns draft Maualuga
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we still need someone to stop the run first or a pass rusher. with pressure on the qb the pass coverage will improve greatly because the qb won't have to time to set his feet and deliver passes right on the numbers.
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http://mvn.com/outsider/2009/03/nfl-outsid...-cleveland.html
Interesting article on why the Browns draft Maualuga
http://mvn.com/outsider/2009/03/nfl-outsid...-cleveland.html
Interesting article on why the Browns draft Maualuga
I enjoyed that article Legend! Thanks for sharing it.
- Tom F.
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If memory serves me right - I started this thread showing sack and INT stats for a 4 year body of work for the 3 USC LBers slated to go within the first 2 rounds of this draft. That wasn't even close to an attack on you so I'm not taking the guilt trip for your self-induced fuss here. Since you chose not to belabor the point only to belabor the point - here's some feeback on those points:
Like I said, it's just 1 game in 4 years and that's just me. Maybe we're just different - I don't lose my memory on 2 beers in 3 hours. I'm not big on re-watching games my favorite teams lose. I've never re-watched the The Drive or The Fumble. If you like throwing up better than me - then have at it.
Since you ARE compelled to make MORE out of this 1 game than the entire season - I'll ask this question while you remain consistent with your philosophy: If Pete Carroll AND Kenny Norton feel like Rey needed to stay on the field - whom are they telling you they believe in MORE against the pass? And later in the game when Rey INT'd the ball, did that burn Carroll and Norton for feeling that way? No, they added another TD and all the FASTER and more agile players than Rey couldn't touch him or catch him for some reason. LUCKY for you, I said this was ONLY 1 game because as the season went on, Rey WAS coming off the field. While Rey was def MVP of the 2008 Rose Bowl, this year's Rose Bowl Def MVP was ILBer Kaluka Maiava. In that game, Matthews replaced Rey a couple of times and put tremendous heat on PSU's QB from instide X-stunts. I really wasn't keeping track of whom he was replacing more at the time to be honest because I never thought I'd have you going Judge Judy on me about it later. I think you'll see there's print out there that indicates Clay played inside and outside and he's been called the guy without a position. That's not me being creative - that's me refusing to contort the truth with convenience of arguement.
I haven't READ or heard about character concerns about Harvin beyond you sending me something about him getting thrown out of a high school game when he was 17 or 18 years old. Does being a stupid teenager mean someone shoudn't hire you when you're 22 or 23? If so, do you know how many of us in the Dawg Pound shouldn't have ever been hired according to your criteria? And how much has Percy Harvin's character backfired on Urban Meyer in the last 3 years? From where I'm sitting, I count 2 National Championships with Harvin representing a VERY important prong of attack.
Dan Marino, Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, Laverneus Coles, Bruce Smith, Jones-Drew, Bob Hayes, Erik Williams, Lawrence Taylor all had these character issues you speak of. We stayed away from those types and drafted an alter boy with manners named Courtney Brown. We were great at helping our opponents back to their feet while they were kicking our fannies on game day. "Love thy enemy." Me? I'd rather get some mean basterds willing to be naughty on Sunday so we can keep some freakin scores down for a change. I think we're confusing Sunday School with competitive football on Sundays. Ray Lewis and Jamal Lewis had character issues didn't they? AT what point did that ruin their championship run? Maybe my problem is I'm too old for new millenium criteria. I grew up playing football on grass, dirt and mudd with my buddies instead of Madden video screens. Seems like tackling has become a lost art for the Cleveland Browns so I still enjoy the throwback players that drive through the man into the turf and intimidate people. Sorry.
- Tom F.
Flugs, great post, I just want to add a few things, I believe all the negatives regarding Rey is a bunch of B.S., Rey has been a dominant player at USC for the past 4 years and people make me laugh when I hear people say Cushing and Matthews are better than him, the other thing is everyone talking about Curry like he's the best LB to come out in years, truth is until this past season Curry was looked at as no more than a 3rd round choice at best, so now the guy has one great year playing in a weak ACC and looks good in shorts at the combine and he is the new flavor of the year whereas Rey as been performing at a high level for the past 4 years playing against much better competition and in bigger games than Curry. Aaron Curry has had ONE DOMINAT YEAR, Rey has had 4.
The other thing is I am glad you brought up this character issue, these guys are football players, I want good football players unless they are out shooting people or abusing drugs I could care less about a wonderlic score or other trivial things young guys get into after all these are kids and we all made mistake when we were kids, I am so tired of us selecting these so called good guys who suck on the football field.
As you mentioned guys like Harvin, Andre Smith and Rey have talent all you have to do is look at what they have done on the field to realize what type of football players these guys will be.
IMO of all the defensive players in the draft Rey I feel will have the largest impact on defense for whichever team drafts him, this guy will be a difference maker in so many ways on the field. watch the film the guy makes plays and big plays at times that change the course of a game and thats what I consider a IMPACT PLAYER.
Aaron Curry has had ONE DOMINAT YEAR, Rey has had 4.
One dominant year?
2007 (Junior):
Second team All-ACC linebacker as a junior ... Earned second team All-America honors from CollegeSportsReport.com ... Was named ACC Defensive Lineman of the Week after the North Carolina game when he had seven tackles and two interceptions including an 84-yard return for a touchdown ... Earned the ACC Defensive Back of the Week award for his efforts against NC State (8 tackles, 1 interception, 57-yard return for a touchdown) ... Tied an NCAA record for the most interception returns for touchdown in a season by a linebacker with three ... Owns the school records for interception return yards in a season (226) and career (256) ... His 84-yard interception return for a touchdown against Army (Sept. 15) ranks as the fourth-longest in school history ... Led the Deacons with eight tackles and also had a 57-yard interception return for a touchdown ... Second on the team with 99 tackles ... Team leader with 13.5 tackles for loss ... Also collected three sacks during the season ... Picked off two passes vs. North Carolina (Oct. 27) ... Finished tied for 13th in the ACC in tackles with 99 ... Ranks 10th in the school record books with 29.5 career tackles for loss ... Had three games of 10 or more tackles including 11 vs. Boston College (Sept. 1), 12 vs. Navy (Oct. 20) and 13 vs. Vanderbilt (Nov. 24)
2006 (Sophomore):
Started all 14 games at outside linebacker ... Ranked 42nd in the ACC averaging 4.9 tackles per game ... Ranked second on the team with 83 tackles ... Tied for fourth on the team with 8.5 tackles for loss and three sacks ... Broke up three passes and intercepted one ... Forced two fumbles ... Made a season-high 10 tackles at Maryland ... Recorded multiple tackle for loss games against Connecticut and North Carolina ... Intercepted a pass in the ACC Championship Game and returned it 30 yards.
2005 (Redshirt Freshman):
Named second team Freshman All-American and to the ACC All-Freshman Team by The Sporting News ... The team's fifth-leading tackler (45) ... Ranked third on the team with 7.5 tackles for loss ... Finished fourth on the team with five pass break-ups ... Played in all 11 games and started the final 10 ... Claimed a starting role in the second game of the season and never let go ... Had four solo tackles in his career debut against Vanderbilt ... Tallied four tackles at Nebraska, including one for loss, and a pass break-up ... Posted one tackle for loss against East Carolina ... Made four tackles in the Maryland game, including one for loss ... Blocked a punt against Clemson and made three tackles ... Had his most productive game at Florida State with seven tackles, a sack, a tackle for loss and two pass break-ups ... Posted five tackles in the Boston College game with a pass break-up ... Had seven tackles, including two for loss, and a pass break-up against NC State ... Tallied a tackle for loss at Duke ... Made six tackles at Georgia Tech ... Finished the season with two tackles against Miami.
Seems like a guy that just kept getting better and better.
For Rey
2007: Maualuga returned for his second season as USC's starting middle linebacker as a junior in 2007 and led the team in tackles. Overall in 2007 while appearing in all 13 games (starting all but the Notre Dame game, in which he was limited because of a hip pointer), he had 79 tackles, including 10.5 for losses of 40 yards (with 6 sacks for minus 32 yards), plus 1 fumble recovery, 1 forced fumble, 1 interception (returned for 19 yards) and 3 deflections. He was named to the 2007 Phil Steele's All-American third team, Collegefootballnews.com All-American honorable mention, Pro Football Weekly All-American honorable mention, All-Pac-10 first team (for the second year in a row), Collegefootballnews.com All-Pac-10 first team, Phil Steele's All-Pac-10 first team and Rivals.com All-Pac-10 second team.
He had 4 tackles versus Idaho, 6 tackles (including 1.5 for losses) at Nebraska and 6 stops against Washington State. He then had a game-high 10 tackles (1 for a loss) at Washington, a game-high 10 tackles (with a sack) against Stanford, 4 tackles at Arizona, 3 tackles (including 2 sacks) at Notre Dame, 11 stops (1 for a loss) and a fumble recovery at Oregon, 5 tackles (including 1 for a loss) and a deflection against Oregon State, 5 tackles at California and 3 stops at Arizona Stae. He had a game-high 8 tackles and a deflection against UCLA. Against Illinois, he had 3 sacks among his 4 tackles and added an interception (returned 19 yards to set up a USC TD) and a forced fumble to earn Rose Bowl Defensive MVP, ESPN.com All-Bowl Team and CBSSportsline.com All-Bowl Team honors.
2006: Maualuga started most of 2006 at middle linebacker as a sophomore and proved to be an impact player. Overall in 2006 while appearing in all 13 games (he started all but Arkansas, Oregon State and Notre Dame), he had a 78 tackles, including 5 for losses of 17 yards (with 2 sacks for minus 8 yards), an interception, 3 deflections and a forced fumble. He made the 2006 Pro Football Weekly All-American honorable mention, Collegefootballnews.com Sophomore All-American first team, All-Pac-10 first team, ESPN.com All-Pac-10 first team, Scout.com All-Pac-10 first team and Rivals.com All-Pac-10 second team and was 1 of 10 semifinalists for the 2006 Butkus Award.
He had 6 tackles at Arkansas, then a game-high and personal-best 11 tackles (1 for a loss) versus Nebraska, 4 tackles, including 2 for a loss (with a sack), and an interception at Arizona and a team-best 9 tackles with a deflection at Washington State. He added 5 tackles and a deflection against Washington, a team-best 8 tackles against Arizona State, 7 stops at Oregon State, 5 tackles (0.5 for a loss) at Stanford and 6 stops and a forced fumble against Oregon. He made 4 tackles (0.5 for a loss) against California, 3 tackles and a deflection against Notre Dame, 7 tackles (with a sack) at UCLA and 2 stops versus Michigan.
2005: Maualuga was an effective and often-used backup middle linebacker and key special teams player as a first-year freshman in 2005. Overall in 2005 while appearing in 12 games (all but Hawaii), he had 37 tackles, including 4.5 for losses of 23 yards (with an 8-yard sack), plus he had 2 forced fumbles, 2 deflections and an interception that he returned 9 yards. He also returned 1 kickoff for 7 yards (7.0 avg). He had a team-best 9 tackles (1 for a loss), 2 forced fumbles (both recovered by USC to set up touchdowns) and 2 deflections against UCLA, 6 tackles (with the sack) and the interception at California, another 6 stops against Washington State, 5 tackles versus Stanford, 3 stops (2 for losses) against Arkansas and another 3 versus Fresno State. He made a tackle and returned a short kickoff 7 yards against Texas. He made the 2005 Football Writers Freshman All-American first team and Scout.com Freshman All-American first team. He won USC's John McKay Award (most competitive spirit).
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