Pettine & Farmer fired what's next?
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Others are posting that we are just going to love his choice of GM. LOL I keep getting this sick feeling it will be Bernie.
Here's the thing.......whats to love about ANY GM that cant make picks or decide the roster???
Whether they are calling him that or not....SHASHI is your Gm, if he's the decision maker(and he is)......so its already a done deal....
Shashi Brown = New GM
Holy Shit!!! Sashi Fuckin' Brown!
A guy whose last name appears to be his strongest credential for his new job...
Here's the thing.......whats to love about ANY GM that cant make picks or decide the roster???
Whether they are calling him that or not....SHASHI is your Gm, if he's the decision maker(and he is)......so its already a done deal....
Shashi Brown = New GM
Yup... and the new "GM" in title will in effect be the Head Scout! That ought to bring 'em running...
And we got a search firm to boot... yippee! Means Jimmah gets to close his Bratenahl digs for the winter.
Just got the above parts of Haslam's presser and had to take a break.
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If Jimmy says 3-4 year rebuild, he's basically hitting reset which means no Thomas,Mack or Haden by the time they ideally would be competitive.
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If Jimmy says 3-4 year rebuild, he's basically hitting reset which means no Thomas,Mack or Haden by the time they ideally would be competitive.
If Jimmy says 3-4 year rebuild, he's basically hitting reset which means no Thomas,Mack or Haden by the time they ideally would be competitive.
like he will go more than 2 years without firing everyone again. he said the same thing last time, and the time before. fuck him!
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Its a great move. I say go for Chip. JFF and him great combination. Fuck ya.
Its a great move. I say go for Chip. JFF and him great combination. Fuck ya.
I assume this is a joke and that you are not really as dumb as your avatar.
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That asshole should just do us all a favor and sell the team to someone that knows what they are doing.
@TonyGrossi
Browns HCs fired by Jimmy Haslam since 2013: Pat Shurmur, Rob Chudzinski, Mike Pettine: GMs fired: Tom Heckert, Mike Lombardi, Ray Farmer.
That asshole should just do us all a favor and sell the team to someone that knows what they are doing.
@TonyGrossi
Browns HCs fired by Jimmy Haslam since 2013: Pat Shurmur, Rob Chudzinski, Mike Pettine: GMs fired: Tom Heckert, Mike Lombardi, Ray Farmer.
All except perhaps Heckert deserved the ax.....so I am not blaming Jimmy for that.
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He's another fucking lawyer like Scheiner.
My dog dropped a turd in the backyard with more of a football acumen than those 2 lawyers.
They should hire me then?
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Will this be 5 GMs in 4 years or 4 GMs in 5 years? Haslam sure does seem to suck at being a owner.
Last coach fired by a team other than the Browns in the AFC North...Ravens..December 31st 2007 fired Brian Billick. BRowns have fired 5 coaches since then.
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There it is....
Sashi will decide the roster AND who we draft.....
Haslem has lost his mind
So a guy who has no experience in building a roster or running a draft will now decide both for the team? Good grief...
Pick Bosa #2 because we're still gonna suck and we can draft a QB in the top 5 next year.
So a guy who has no experience in building a roster or running a draft will now decide both for the team? Good grief...
Pick Bosa #2 because we're still gonna suck and we can draft a QB in the top 5 next year.
I could have picked our drafts as well using a Street and Smith's guide as the so called professionals that have been doing it for a while.......so that lack of experience may not bother me as much.
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"We'll be patient, because we're not going to turn a 3-13 team into a 13-3 team in one year". - Jimmy Haslam
Patience Jimmah?...that lie ranks right up there with "I won't cum in your mouth"!
4 straight coaches have had 2 years or less...but this time we will be patient.
Fucking Retard.
4 straight coaches have had 2 years or less...but this time we will be patient.
Fucking Retard.
Bottom line: I have no problem being patient with seemingly competence. I have no problem being impatient with clear gross incompetence.
That is my perspective.
And an observation: we have not yet seen seemingly competence at work here.
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Farmer and Pettine are gonna be looking pretty good....in the rear view mirror.....bank it!
Cause where will they find a GM who doesnt get to make any choices and wants to answer to a 30 something contract lawyer????........
Others are posting that we are just going to love his choice of GM. LOL I keep getting this sick feeling it will be Bernie.
Jimmy obviously doesn't understand the he and his "non traditional" structure are the problem. Its a shame he wasn't convicted and removed prior to this season.
Others are posting that we are just going to love his choice of GM. LOL I keep getting this sick feeling it will be Bernie.
Jimmy obviously doesn't understand the he and his "non traditional" structure are the problem. Its a shame he wasn't convicted and removed prior to this season.
The structure is not the issue...... who gives a shit about the structure. There are 32 NFL teams and 32 different structures.
It is the competence of the people that hold the positions....regardless of that structure.
This structure has been used here before: Holmgrem: VP of Football operations, Heckert GM...Shurmur or whoever HC.
Nothing much different here except the names and the background of Holmgrem vs. Brown. And we know that the choice of the SB winning coach/GM was a disaster. So....we now have an analytics guy in place. It can't be any worse.
Play like a Sashi!
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I'm a fan of analytics being used as a tool to help make the final decision and I guess that's what they mean by him having a say in the final roster
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I'm a fan of analytics being used as a tool to help make the final decision and I guess that's what they mean by him having a say in the final roster
I'm a fan of analytics being used as a tool to help make the final decision and I guess that's what they mean by him having a say in the final roster
I'm a fan of chickens, especially experienced chickens, having final say on all draft picks.
Between analytics and the chickens, what could possibly go wrong?
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The guys on NFL Network are killing us right now. To sum it up: "Who in their right mind would want to go to Cleveland where the head coach reports to the owner, and the GM reports to a guy with no football experience".
Also, they believe with the way the Browns have structured things, that other teams "can deny permission for their own guys to interview for the GM job"
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
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I think we should wait and see what happens before we condemn people. I'm not aware of seeing any job descriptions for the role of VP so we only have what Haslam said in his press conference. I'd be amazed if our new VP would over rule an experienced HC&GM If they were keen on certain players. Just presuming of course as I would have expected amiable communication between front office and coaching staff too.
I'm interested to see who we appoint and then how they gel. As Gipper says it's actually about competence not structures. Competent, effective people make things work and are dynamic and positive- generally. There should also be good communication and flexibility between the decision makers.
As London Dawg says, there is nothing wrong with someone who is good at analysis, so lets wait and see.
I know you guys have seen this all before, but at some point it's going to turn around.
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The guys on NFL Network are killing us right now. To sum it up: "Who in their right mind would want to go to Cleveland where the head coach reports to the owner, and the GM reports to a guy with no football experience".
Also, they believe with the way the Browns have structured things, that other teams "can deny permission for their own guys to interview for the GM job"
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
The guys on NFL Network are killing us right now. To sum it up: "Who in their right mind would want to go to Cleveland where the head coach reports to the owner, and the GM reports to a guy with no football experience".
Also, they believe with the way the Browns have structured things, that other teams "can deny permission for their own guys to interview for the GM job"
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
The guys on NFL Network may have absolutely no imagination or creativity. They just want to criticise to criticise. They have no clue. Like I said: 32 teams/32 structures.
Talent will out. We have just had poor talent (in the FO...and some on the field).
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As you say Gipper it's all about the people. Appoint the right people in the right places and we move forward. Cut incompetence and blockers/negativity and be positive. Simple formula not always easy to achieve, but Haslam seems determined.
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And if Haslam is determined he will attract equally determined people.
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