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  • W wargograw

    And that's even with Johnny being cut FTR, which I am in favor of.

    @wargograw said:

    And that's even with Johnny being cut FTR, which I am in favor of.

    I'd try to get a conditional trade out of him at the least.

  • I don't think anybody would pay the price the Titans would want to trade out of #1.

    That being said I expect Tunsil, then we'd have Goff or Bosa in our lap

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    I don't think anybody would pay the price the Titans would want to trade out of #1.

    That being said I expect Tunsil, then we'd have Goff or Bosa in our lap

    @bbedward said:

    I don't think anybody would pay the price the Titans would want to trade out of #1.

    That being said I expect Tunsil, then we'd have Goff or Bosa in our lap

    Got to go with Bosa-can't keep chasing the QB tail for #20 whatever in a long line of mistakes. BPA.

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  • Please God let a picture of this come out. I swear if this isn't some joke it will be one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen.

  • So this guy got a "concussion", went to Vegas, wore a wig, sunglasses, went by the name of Billy. Then geotagged himself on Instagram in Avon.

    That's some next level s*** right there

  • T TexasAg1969

    @bbedward said:

    I don't think anybody would pay the price the Titans would want to trade out of #1.

    That being said I expect Tunsil, then we'd have Goff or Bosa in our lap

    Got to go with Bosa-can't keep chasing the QB tail for #20 whatever in a long line of mistakes. BPA.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Got to go with Bosa-can't keep chasing the QB tail for #20 whatever in a long line of mistakes. BPA.

    Goff is "the" QB we've been chasing though.

    Teams may be pushing to trade up to #1 to take him when it's all said and done.

  • I wonder if Billy is related to that affluenza kid? They seem very similar

  • Just make him go away and be someone else's problem. This is just way too cartoony and ridiculous now.

  • But he doesn't have a problem. I feel bad for all the people that hooked their buggy at one point to this donkey. Cleveland qb or not I have hated this kid from day one.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
    MudflyM 1 Reply

  • I'd rather see him go to Dallas because I hate Dallas.

    But I could also see wherever Chip Kelly goes - maybe San Fran?

  • Opal312O Opal312

    I read that too so I know you're not kidding. By morning this will be all over the Internet! The article says Manziel didn't want to use his credit card and wanted his room compt. Whatever that means. Manziel has really got be let go! The Browns will probably cut him now instead of trying to trade him. I would give him the Bus ticket to Dallas and close the door. He's not sane. There's some kind of mental illness going on here.

    @opal312 said:

    I read that too so I know you're not kidding. By morning this will be all over the Internet! The article says Manziel didn't want to use his credit card and wanted his room compt. Whatever that means. Manziel has really got be let go! The Browns will probably cut him now instead of trying to trade him. I would give him the Bus ticket to Dallas and close the door. He's not sane. There's some kind of mental illness going on here.

    I don't think it is mental illness Opal, just a young man with a substance abuse problem who needed the rehab treatment and to stay on the after care program after rehab. I was pulling for JM after going to rehab but I saw the red flags earlier which many wanted to dismiss as being minor. They would have been minor incidents for most but not someone who just spent months in rehab.

  • Trade for Sean Payton. Makes sense.

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  • All haters. JFM is just doing what kids do. Were none of you ever young? I bet there are a millions players who go out and play cards. Vegas is a popular place you know. Holy Cow.

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  • I have one comment to make on this, and then I'm DONE discussing Manziel...

    He needs to go, and it needs to be done immediately. I know we spent a first round pick on the guy, but I don't care anymore. Cut him loose, and never speak of him again. Deep down in my heart I know it's more complicated. I truly believe that Manziel is a worse addict than any of us realize, and that's what hurts me the most. He needs so much help. Keep in mind that I have ZERO inside information, and I could be completely wrong. I don't want to sound like I'm a doctor diagnosing a patient, but from everything I've seen...the guy simply can't (won't?) help himself. Most addicts that I've come into contact with know they have a problem. They will eventually seek out help, and they will make progress. However, what happens next is they take steps backwards, and in some cases, they go FURTHER back than where they started. We've all heard, "A person has to hit rock bottom before they make changes", and there is some truth to that. Problem is, "rock bottom" is different for everyone. Manziel has followed this equation to a tee. He went to 10 weeks in rehab, no small endeavor. Many patients go for 28 days, or even two months, but 10 weeks is quite a stint. If I had to guess, he probably thought he was "cured", or that he didn't need as much help as he thought. He got cocky, and thought he could party and work his ass off in the NFL. And that's where he is wrong.

    Manziel's story is sad, and it's a sad story that's been going on for ages. Supreme talent wasted by the inability to address a personal problem. The Browns tried to be caring, they tried to be sympathetic, but at some point a team has to cut ties. It's infuriating as a fan because we used a first round pick on the guy, and his talent shines through despite his personal problems. Yes his footwork is a mess, and yes his accuracy isn't what it should be, but his skills and abilities are there. I get the feeling that if he could just focus on his addiction problems, work his ass off in a 12 step program, his football ability would eventually bust out and he could be a legit starting QB in the NFL. Problem is, he doesn't appear anywhere NEAR ready to REALLY work on his personal demons.

    It's another sad chapter in a very depressing book known as our Browns. It's time to turn the page yet again, and I pray the kid gets the help he needs AND puts in the requisite work to salvage not only his career...but his life.

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  • Will Burge said someone with the video is negotiating with TMZ.

    Burge also broke a few other stories I believe, like the Haden adderall story.

  • Jalyn Smith, linebacker from Notre Dame. This kid is ALL over the place, and he's the kind of playmaking badass our team needs. We need a defensive presence that can make plays rushing the qb, stopping the run, and defending the pass. I think this kid checks off more boxes than anyone else. He's a bit light at 235, but by the time the combine comes around, I bet he'll be around 242 without losing speed. He's the guy a coach can build a defense around.

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    Jalyn Smith, linebacker from Notre Dame. This kid is ALL over the place, and he's the kind of playmaking badass our team needs. We need a defensive presence that can make plays rushing the qb, stopping the run, and defending the pass. I think this kid checks off more boxes than anyone else. He's a bit light at 235, but by the time the combine comes around, I bet he'll be around 242 without losing speed. He's the guy a coach can build a defense around.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Jalyn Smith, linebacker from Notre Dame. He's a bit light at 235, but by the time the combine comes around, I bet he'll be around 242 without losing speed.

    He might be 242 from sitting around for 4 months with a torn up knee. Not sure about the not losing speed part or him being at the combine.

  • ATENEARSA ATENEARS

    the Johnny Manziel story took a bizarre turn Monday night when ESPN Las Vegas reported that Manziel went to a popular nightclub wearing a blonde wig, fake mustache, fake glasses and a hoodie while in Vegas.


    It gets better: He identified himself as "Billy," reports say. And according to Will Burge of WTAM AM/1100, there is video of Manziel in the disguise.



    Source: http://www.cleveland.com/johnny-manziel/index.ssf/2016/01/johnny_billy_manziel_becomes_a.html


    @atenears said:

    the Johnny Manziel story took a bizarre turn Monday night when ESPN Las Vegas reported that Manziel went to a popular nightclub wearing a blonde wig, fake mustache, fake glasses and a hoodie while in Vegas.

    It gets better: He identified himself as "Billy," reports say. And according to Will Burge of WTAM AM/1100, there is video of Manziel in the disguise.

    Source: http://www.cleveland.com/johnny-manziel/index.ssf/2016/01/johnny_billy_manziel_becomes_a.html

    Happy New Year Stanley!!!!

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  • OMG...I just read about the knee injury. I mean...wow. That's so freaking awful. So angry for the guy.

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  • I'm perfectly fine with JM being our QB next year, I know he wants out but anyway.....I want opening day next year to be Billy Manzel day and we all wear the jersey and wigs. And if he goes out and wins.....epic. Cleveland is back.

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