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Browns to interview Patriots DC Matt Patricia

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @logicisforsquares said:

    "In 2012, he received the title of defensive coordinator, despite having called plays on defense since the departure of Pees following the 2009 season."

    So he has been making the calls since 2009 for the Patriots defense.

    I don't know enough about their defensive scheme to have any clue what he would run if he came here.

    They always seem to make chicken salad out of chicken shit on defense there in NE. Some might say "Well, former DC BB is in charge and that is why". But it can't be as simple as that.

    @the-gipper said:

    They always seem to make chicken salad out of chicken shit on defense there in NE. Some might say "Well, former DC BB is in charge and that is why". But it can't be as simple as that.

    From the outside, it really looks as simple as finding schemes that put players with talent in position to succeed. Every player in the NFL is talented in some way - yes, even Justin Gilbert - but if you ask them to do things they're not good at they'll fail. If you ask them to play to their strengths and find ways to disguise that, they'll do well.

    Like how Sheard went from 2 sacks a year ago here, to 8 in NE. Like how Dion Lewis went from 'that guy who looks decent in preseason' to 'best pass catching back in the league' in NE. And how 'generic skill play 173' became a superstar there.

    The Italian DawgPoundT 1 Reply

  • Right now I'm on board with this much more than Schwartz, Gase, Marrone - not that my opinion counts of course.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • bbedwardB bbedward

    I remember the last time we hired a Patriots defensive coordinator.

    They had a top 10 defense then too.

    Hmm, if only I could remember what his name was. Oh yea that's right, Romeo Crennel.

    @bbedward said:

    I remember the last time we hired a Patriots defensive coordinator.

    They had a top 10 defense then too.

    Hmm, if only I could remember what his name was. Oh yea that's right, Romeo Crennel.

    And for a couple of years that worked out....until K2 hit a tree and Braylon brain hit a tree...and Derek Anderson couldn't hit a tree right in front of him.

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    Right now I'm on board with this much more than Schwartz, Gase, Marrone - not that my opinion counts of course.

    @bbedward said:

    Right now I'm on board with this much more than Schwartz, Gase, Marrone - not that my opinion counts of course.

    Agree.

  • The sooner the Patriots get beaten the sooner he can be interviewed, but there will be others. What about Hue Jackson from the Bungals? Learnt a lot from the Raiders experience, done very well at Cincy and know the AFC North intimately.

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  • DeputyDawgD DeputyDawg

    The sooner the Patriots get beaten the sooner he can be interviewed, but there will be others. What about Hue Jackson from the Bungals? Learnt a lot from the Raiders experience, done very well at Cincy and know the AFC North intimately.

    @deputydawg said:

    The sooner the Patriots get beaten the sooner he can be interviewed, but there will be others. What about Hue Jackson from the Bungals? Learnt a lot from the Raiders experience, done very well at Cincy and know the AFC North intimately.

    I understand that since the Pats have a bye week that Patrick can interview...this week....but that would have to stop next week when his team has a game. Apply the same to Jackson.

  • I wouldn't be mad about Hue Jackson that's for sure.

  • I like what the pats do defensively - seperating their fronts and coverages. I know it's something Gary Patterson has been particularly innovative with and it was something I was planning on researching more of soon.

  • Pats are one of the very few multiple front teams(4?)....like the Browns and Buff.....great scheme, but as was the case here, you need guys who are versatile and smart enough to execute it......otherwise they are just being mis-used....😉

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Pats are one of the very few multiple front teams(4?)....like the Browns and Buff.....great scheme, but as was the case here, you need guys who are versatile and smart enough to execute it......otherwise they are just being mis-used....😉

    @mudfly said:

    Pats are one of the very few multiple front teams(4?)....like the Browns and Buff.....great scheme, but as was the case here, you need guys who are versatile and smart enough to execute it......otherwise they are just being mis-used.... 😉

    So, which was it with us: Most think the talent was misused.......are you saying perhaps not? (or was it a combination of both misuse....and dumb play/poor execution)?

  • Im saying the scheme requires players to be versatile. But, if they are specialists that only do one thing well, they will not work within the scheme...

    So....I think if they cant execute it then they shouldnt be playing or you have to adjust(and we did).....but we dont have the same talent NE has nor what Buffalo had when Pett was there....and its a rehashed and dead horse discussion at this point....

  • On the whole I don't think our D measured up to "Patriot smart"...

    As I asked in another thread, can someone name a Belichick coordinator that has become a successful NFL HC?

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    On the whole I don't think our D measured up to "Patriot smart"...

    As I asked in another thread, can someone name a Belichick coordinator that has become a successful NFL HC?

    @tour2ma said:

    On the whole I don't think our D measured up to "Patriot smart"...

    As I asked in another thread, can someone name a Belichick coordinator that has become a successful NFL HC?

    That is what I was thinking just moments ago. Hiring another DC from the Pats just makes me very uneasy.

  • 3rd times a charm....

    But seriously I think Patricia is a lot better than Crennel or Mangini as a HC prospect - and so do Pats fans if you ask them.

    Although Mangini might find another HC gig somewhere down the line and be successful.

    Get Patricia aka Belichick 2.0 (without the cheating), get Goff aka Andrew Luck 2.0, and draft like 7 studs with all the other picks, sign a bunch of studs.

    Bam, easy.

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    3rd times a charm....

    But seriously I think Patricia is a lot better than Crennel or Mangini as a HC prospect - and so do Pats fans if you ask them.

    Although Mangini might find another HC gig somewhere down the line and be successful.

    Get Patricia aka Belichick 2.0 (without the cheating), get Goff aka Andrew Luck 2.0, and draft like 7 studs with all the other picks, sign a bunch of studs.

    Bam, easy.

    @bbedward said:

    3rd times a charm....

    But seriously I think Patricia is a lot better than Crennel or Mangini as a HC prospect - and so do Pats fans if you ask them.

    Although Mangini might find another HC gig somewhere down the line and be successful.

    Get Patricia aka Belichick 2.0 (without the cheating), get Goff aka Andrew Luck 2.0, and draft like 7 studs with all the other picks, sign a bunch of studs.

    Bam, easy.

    Goff is most certainly not Andrew Luck 2.0. Luck was special from the moment you put him on film. Goff? I'm still finding things to like.

    bbedwardB 1 Reply
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    On the whole I don't think our D measured up to "Patriot smart"...

    As I asked in another thread, can someone name a Belichick coordinator that has become a successful NFL HC?

    @tour2ma said:

    On the whole I don't think our D measured up to "Patriot smart"...

    As I asked in another thread, can someone name a Belichick coordinator that has become a successful NFL HC?

    Mangini did have some success with the Jets and I think we should never have fired him in the first place.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @bbedward said:

    3rd times a charm....

    But seriously I think Patricia is a lot better than Crennel or Mangini as a HC prospect - and so do Pats fans if you ask them.

    Although Mangini might find another HC gig somewhere down the line and be successful.

    Get Patricia aka Belichick 2.0 (without the cheating), get Goff aka Andrew Luck 2.0, and draft like 7 studs with all the other picks, sign a bunch of studs.

    Bam, easy.

    Goff is most certainly not Andrew Luck 2.0. Luck was special from the moment you put him on film. Goff? I'm still finding things to like.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Goff is most certainly not Andrew Luck 2.0. Luck was special from the moment you put him on film. Goff? I'm still finding things to like.

    I wasn't being serious with any of that.

    Though I do think Goff is worth a top 5 pick today - that could change by draft day.

    (But it isn't hard to find things to like)

  • S SPEK216

    Why? Look at his resume.. I'm scratching my head

    @spek216 said:

    Why? Look at his resume.. I'm scratching my head

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  • DeputyDawgD DeputyDawg

    The sooner the Patriots get beaten the sooner he can be interviewed, but there will be others. What about Hue Jackson from the Bungals? Learnt a lot from the Raiders experience, done very well at Cincy and know the AFC North intimately.

    @deputydawg said:

    The sooner the Patriots get beaten the sooner he can be interviewed, but there will be others. What about Hue Jackson from the Bungals? Learnt a lot from the Raiders experience, done very well at Cincy and know the AFC North intimately.

    I'm on board with Jackson.

  • Patricia would seem to be a philosophical match for Brown and DePodesta. I'm thinking given these circumstances (which I have mixed feelings about, but we have to play the hand we're dealt) this is my preferred HC option.

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