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  • Not any time soon, but ultimately, probably. Whether civilisation will ever reach that point, I don't know.

    It seems to be going that way a little bit, with the United States being separate entities that are ruled by a common president; Europe is heading the same direction in a different manner, and there is an EU president; China has been a conglomerate of provinces for millennia; the old USSR countries will either join the EU or Russia.

    There's four power blocs right there that over the next few centuries will either do everything to become top dog, or work together for the betterment of the planet (where's your money?)

    ASEAN is doing similar things, we just need Africa and South/Central America to join the party.

  • It might take an alien threat to get us to that point

  • Can't happen at this point - cultures are too different.

    Much more local governments can keep the people happier - as they all want different things in different parts of the world.

  • Can't happen at this point - cultures are too different.

    Much more local governments can keep the people happier - as they all want different things in different parts of the world.

    @bbedward said:

    Can't happen at this point - cultures are too different.

    Much more local governments can keep the people happier - as they all want different things in different parts of the world.

    Which is what you have in every developed country anyway, so that's not such a huge obstacle.

  • @bbedward said:

    Can't happen at this point - cultures are too different.

    Much more local governments can keep the people happier - as they all want different things in different parts of the world.

    Which is what you have in every developed country anyway, so that's not such a huge obstacle.

    @gftchris said:

    Which is what you have in every developed country anyway, so that's not such a huge obstacle.

    I think people still want to maintain their identity and borders, though.

  • @gftchris said:

    Which is what you have in every developed country anyway, so that's not such a huge obstacle.

    I think people still want to maintain their identity and borders, though.

    @bbedward said:

    I think people still want to maintain their identity and borders, though.

    For the foreseeable, yes. But globalisation will inevitably eradicate the point of borders.

  • I definitely see a time in the future where we have a one world government likely as we start to expand out into space. Until then, we will continue to have our own borders and cultural identities that make it impossible to ever have something like that. I hope I am dead and gone by the time we are talking one giant government.

  • The way the planet is going it may be a necessity at some point. Basically when it gets down to crunch time humans "may" finally realize that it was always family. Of course a few billion will die first before it sinks in. As is customary.

  • Imagine the corruption that would be involved in something like this. How would voting work? Biggest country by population size = automatic winner?

    Wasn't it written somewhere about one ruler for all the people being the end of times?

  • It will be essential for space exploration. As it is now though I don't think anyone from any major country could accept foreigners bossing then around.

  • Imagine the corruption that would be involved in something like this. How would voting work? Biggest country by population size = automatic winner?

    Wasn't it written somewhere about one ruler for all the people being the end of times?

    @erie-dawg said:

    Imagine the corruption that would be involved in something like this. How would voting work? Biggest country by population size = automatic winner?

    Wasn't it written somewhere about one ruler for all the people being the end of times?

    I'd imagine countries would still elect their own president (or whatever) and all those heads of state would make up a congress and elect a leader amongst themselves

  • @erie-dawg said:

    Imagine the corruption that would be involved in something like this. How would voting work? Biggest country by population size = automatic winner?

    Wasn't it written somewhere about one ruler for all the people being the end of times?

    I'd imagine countries would still elect their own president (or whatever) and all those heads of state would make up a congress and elect a leader amongst themselves

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I'd imagine countries would still elect their own president (or whatever) and all those heads of state would make up a congress and elect a leader amongst themselves

    Like every state has a governor.

    WSS

  • Right except the governors would select the president. Which would probably actually be a better system than we are currently using.

  • Right except the governors would select the president. Which would probably actually be a better system than we are currently using.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Right except the governors would select the president. Which would probably actually be a better system than we are currently using.

    I would think the citizens vote for president of the world who would preside over the governors of each country.

    WSS

  • Logistically impossible

  • Also incredibly flawed

  • Logistically impossible

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Logistically impossible

    No doubt that's true today. Imagine 300 years ago without the electoral college?

    Communications in time will make it possible for every human being on earth earth to vote.

    Soon enough most people will speak a version of the same language.

    I think it's a fucked up idea but...

    WSS

  • Right except the governors would select the president. Which would probably actually be a better system than we are currently using.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Right except the governors would select the president. Which would probably actually be a better system than we are currently using.

    That's what happens here, in a small version. Each of the 650 seats in parliament is independently elected, and then those 650 elect their leader, and whichever party has the majority of seats forms the government. Or, gets first crack at a coalition.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Right except the governors would select the president. Which would probably actually be a better system than we are currently using.

    That's what happens here, in a small version. Each of the 650 seats in parliament is independently elected, and then those 650 elect their leader, and whichever party has the majority of seats forms the government. Or, gets first crack at a coalition.

    @gftchris said:

    That's what happens here, in a small version. Each of the 650 seats in parliament is independently elected, and then those 650 elect their leader, and whichever party has the majority of seats forms the government. Or, gets first crack at a coalition.

    So how would you fellas feel if a muslim was the supreme leader or whatever title and he wanted to implement sharia law throughout the world. I've been out and never want to see a new world order myself. I just see a mess of corruption myself.
  • Until islam evolves from a medieval mentality it would be incompatible with any sort of global leadership.