Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I wish for him to be so far away from this team that I don't care how he does in the future. The odds against him turning his shit around are so huge that I'm willing to gamble that he's the next Ryan Leaf and not going to turn into the next Peyton Manning.
As I said elsewhere I give him a 10% chance of waking up and turning this around.
As I said elsewhere I give him a 10% chance of waking up and turning this around.
I think 10% is optimistic....but I'd still take those odds and just release his sorry ass.
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Here comes Billy!!!
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It is true that Pettine and Farmer both wanted Carr.
This will be my last comment on Johnny also. I guess addiction leads to lying to those trying to help you. Addiction is complicated. I've never been addicted but I will agree he needs help. The lying to coaches and disguises are desperate acts by a very mixed up person.
I now want to apologize to Mike Pettine. I had no idea what he must have been going through. I hope he gets another job soon.
The dysfunction of the Browns is trickling down from Haslam and sure messed things up. Maybe when the Manziel situation is finally put to rest they can concentrate on building a winning football team.
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Reports: Johnny Manziel and Robert Griffin III want to play for the Cowboys
According to a pair of reports, Johnny Manziel and Robert Griffin III—two Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks from schools in Texas—desire to return home and play for the Dallas Cowboys.
Over a series of Tweets this past Sunday, Peter King of MMQB reported Manziel “wants to go to Dallas” after he failed to show up for concussion treatment at the Browns facility. The center of so much drama over his first two NFL seasons, Manziel is now more likely to be released by Cleveland than play another season for the Browns.
Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports reports Tuesday that Griffin III—Washington’s Rookie of the Year turned backup quarterback—has similar desires.
“Sources close to each player have maintained since the beginning of last offseason that if either was cut loose from his franchise, there was a belief that Jones would be interested,” Robinson wrote. “That remains to be seen. Regardless, the same sources have told Yahoo Sports that both Manziel and Griffin have Dallas atop their preferred destinations should they become available.”
It’s easy to see why both Manziel and Griffin III would want to play in Dallas. Both players are loved within the state, as Griffin III won the Heisman for Baylor in 2011 before Manziel took home the award for Texas A&M a year later. There’s also the age and health of current Cowboys starting quarterback Tony Romo, which could open up the opportunity to play—potentially sooner rather than later. Rehabbing a lost career for “America’s Team” would be a dream come true for both players.
Also, the Cowboys’ never-ending nightmare at backup quarterback in 2015 proved the franchise needs a capable No. 2 behind Romo, especially for 2016.
The question now is: Would either player be worth it for the Cowboys?
Owner Jerry Jones nearly pulled the trigger on drafting Manziel in 2014, but he’s been a constant headache for the Browns. Griffin III looked like the next big thing after a superlative rookie season, but injuries and problems with coaching staffs created a lost 2015 season in which he didn’t play in a single game.
They both have talent. They’ve both submarined promising careers. Maybe Dallas really is the best place for Manziel and Griffin III. Buckle up for another crazy offseason with these two quarterbacks and their shared preference in a landing spot in Texas.
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if i'm the Cowboys...I take RGIII all day long and twice on Sundays.
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if i'm the Cowboys...I take RGIII all day long and twice on Sundays.
I still maintain he can be a top-half QB.
Behind Dallas' offensive line, with Dez Bryant and Jason Witten to throw to, and DMC in the backfield? That's a scary talented offense. As long as you don't run RG3 into the dirt, he can shine. Implement heavy stretch zone-read PA with the occasional naked bootleg, and establish a nice run/pass balance....RG3 can tear up defenses by going over the top to Dez, hitting underneath to Witten, or stretching the field horizontally with some smart QB runs.
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maybe it's because i'm borderline insane, but this news didn't even make me flinch. slightly amused, appreciate the creativity and definitely honored he named himself after me, but other than that this changes nothing for me.
McCown, JmfM, Goff...1,2,3 2016
to anyone who wants Austin Davis or Connor Shaw ahead of Johnny, it's a safe bet you would absolutely hate me irl.
just harmless fun imo, hey John, pass that shit over here.
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the Johnny Manziel story took a bizarre turn Monday night when ESPN Las Vegas reported that Manziel went to a popular nightclub wearing a blonde wig, fake mustache, fake glasses and a hoodie while in Vegas.
It gets better: He identified himself as "Billy," reports say. And according to Will Burge of WTAM AM/1100, there is video of Manziel in the disguise.
Source: http://www.cleveland.com/johnny-manziel/index.ssf/2016/01/johnny_billy_manziel_becomes_a.html
the Johnny Manziel story took a bizarre turn Monday night when ESPN Las Vegas reported that Manziel went to a popular nightclub wearing a blonde wig, fake mustache, fake glasses and a hoodie while in Vegas.
It gets better: He identified himself as "Billy," reports say. And according to Will Burge of WTAM AM/1100, there is video of Manziel in the disguise.
Source: http://www.cleveland.com/johnny-manziel/index.ssf/2016/01/johnny_billy_manziel_becomes_a.html
go go....go johnny go.. go.....go johnny go....johnny be blonde.....heheheheheeeeeee
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If this IS TRUE... Manziel is a funny motherfucker.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
I mean i think johnny did this on purpose for a good reason.
the little fucker wants to go to dallas guaranteed.
so he pulls this shit and brings his value down.
we release him or trade him or a fifth or sixth rounder and jerry gives up nothing for him.
and he gets to go to dallas, close to austin, where he loves and all his friends are.
i say we keep him and keep him on the bench. what have we got to lose?
we don't gain anything by releasing him.
trade him as far away from texas as possible.
my guess is half the team did the same and want the fuck out of cleveland as fast as possible.
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I do have to ask this question.....because you all accuse Bernie Kosar of it:
If he was truly suffering from serious concussion ramifications.....couldn't it appear that he was drunk without being drunk?
Not making excuses for him.....but I am wondering if it was really that, and that is why he was declared inactive so soon with no chance to evaluate him.
Maybe he really suffered some damage. I saw a reel from the KC game where it showed JMZ being earholed once, body slammed on his head another two times.
So, maybe he really, really was in a very bad state of concussion.....and his dishelvement and actions were those of a guy with a bad concussion and not a guy that was inebriated.
Again, no excuses for him.....his trip to Vegas was enough to put him on any shit list.....but still. Drunk or concussed? (unless they say he had a strong odor of alcohol about him)
strong odor of an alcoholic beverage. Ethanol is for most intents and purposes odorless. Its the other stuff - yeast, hops, etc that provide the odor.
strong odor of an alcoholic beverage. Ethanol is for most intents and purposes odorless. Its the other stuff - yeast, hops, etc that provide the odor.
never saw anyone on concussion protocol put on a wig and mustache.....man o man...cmon man.....
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It is true that Pettine and Farmer both wanted Carr.
This will be my last comment on Johnny also. I guess addiction leads to lying to those trying to help you. Addiction is complicated. I've never been addicted but I will agree he needs help. The lying to coaches and disguises are desperate acts by a very mixed up person.
I now want to apologize to Mike Pettine. I had no idea what he must have been going through. I hope he gets another job soon.
The dysfunction of the Browns is trickling down from Haslam and sure messed things up. Maybe when the Manziel situation is finally put to rest they can concentrate on building a winning football team.
aside from JW Gacy's clown uniform, name one serial killer that wears/has worn disguises?The lying to coaches and disguises are desperate acts by a very mixed up person.
and OJ?? REALLY? show me evidence of that happening EVER.
terrible and embarrassing examples of...bad examples.
know who wears disguises in America the most? celebs. not serial killers, just famous peeps who don't want recognized. and some thieves casing houses. but mostly the former...and Halloween enthusiasts.
does comparing Manziel to serial killers and murderers help you justify your dislike for him more?
some of you need to smoke a joint and get laid, preferably in that order. uuuuuuup tight like the pole up in your asses.
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Yea, but something else you have to think about: While Jerry might like Johnny....there is another Heisman Trophy winner from Texas who will be available in the offseason that Jerry may be just as enamored with.....and who does not come with all the personal baggage that JFF comes with....and who comes with likely a better upside than Johhny:
RGIII.
Whatever RGIII isn't.....healthy....a good QB in the system....he also has not been an off field problem. He has sat quietly all year not getting a chance to play, and has done nothing to throw the spotlight upon himself.
So, if I were the Cowboys I would say fuck the freakshow....lets bring in a more dynamic a player (in college...and in the pros) and a solid citizen.....RGIII.
Very true Gip, though Jerry seems to already have a relationship with Johnny, and wanted to draft him 2 years ago.
Alot has happened in regards to Johnny the past two years. Think Jerry gives up anything for a backup to Romo ?Very true Gip, though Jerry seems to already have a relationship with Johnny, and wanted to draft him 2 years ago.
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Alot has happened in regards to Johnny the past two years. Think Jerry gives up anything for a backup to Romo ?Very true Gip, though Jerry seems to already have a relationship with Johnny, and wanted to draft him 2 years ago.
Alot has happened in regards to Johnny the past two years. Think Jerry gives up anything for a backup to Romo ?
He does, but I think jerrah would prefer rg3
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If this IS TRUE... Manziel is a funny motherfucker.
Yep...that's what I want in my teams QB....a guy who's a funny motherfucker who disappears from his team and doesn't show up for team required treatments. But he's got dillholes like you supporting him so enjoy watching him play in the CFL. How's Trent Richardson doing these days...according to you he was the 2nd coming of Walter Payton and Jim Brown combined.
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If this IS TRUE... Manziel is a funny motherfucker.
Yep...that's what I want in my teams QB....a guy who's a funny motherfucker who disappears from his team and doesn't show up for team required treatments. But he's got dillholes like you supporting him so enjoy watching him play in the CFL. How's Trent Richardson doing these days...according to you he was the 2nd coming of Walter Payton and Jim Brown combined.
Yep...that's what I want in my teams QB....a guy who's a funny motherfucker who disappears from his team and doesn't show up for team required treatments. But he's got dillholes like you supporting him so enjoy watching him play in the CFL. How's Trent Richardson doing these days...according to you he was the 2nd coming of Walter Payton and Jim Brown combined.
lol touché!! he's got you there, Po!
if it's any consolation, my true hope is that my ideal QB lineup by mid season 2016 is Goff, McCown, JmfM...in that order.
so what about as the 3rd QB, Mark? talent-wise he very well might be the best 3rd string backup in the league. would be nice to have around in October after the first two go down injured. just saying. no one would fault the team for not starting him, and he does have value keeping him for a backup. in that role they may be able to contain his antics down to a very minor and manageable distraction.
excited to see what the Tri-Lamb collective decides about his metrics.
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VesnaKociper said:
This is no big deal. When I was in Vegas Last time, Stan and I both put on show girl outfits and did high kicks for dollar bills.
TMI VK, now preserved forever...lol
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