In the second round, the Cleveland Browns select...
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#2 Jared Goff, QB, Cal
#32 Shilque Calhoun, DE, MSU
Not sure where Calhoun is projected exactly or if he'll fall that far. Too early to really tell anyway probably.
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#2 Goff simples
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Oh yes PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us draft a QB in the first and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let him ride the bench for 2 years and then maybe give him 5 games to learn the offense under 2 different coaches with 2 different OC and then wonder why it wont work.
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Last time we selected the consensus top QB prospect in the draft was 1999. Even then I'm not sure it was a consensus with McNabb at #2.
Drafting the Johnny Manziels, Colt McCoys, Luke McCowns, Brandon Weedens, Charlie Fryes, Brady Quinns was never the answer for us, and it's rarely* the long-term answer for anybody.
Last time we tried taking the #1 QB prospect was 1999...just sayin' Not sure why everybody is opposed to Goff, who is becoming more apparently by the day - deemed worthy of the top pick in the draft.
We have the OL to protect him for a long period of time...as long as we keep JT/Schwartz and get a suitable center.
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Oh yes PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us draft a QB in the first and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let him ride the bench for 2 years and then maybe give him 5 games to learn the offense under 2 different coaches with 2 different OC and then wonder why it wont work.
Oh yes PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us draft a QB in the first and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let him ride the bench for 2 years and then maybe give him 5 games to learn the offense under 2 different coaches with 2 different OC and then wonder why it wont work.
Or we could take a justine Gilbert type figure instead? Nah thanks, I'd take the risk on the potential franchise qb personally, especially when we have the use of a great mentor in mccown.
Reward > risk
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No no no, you draft QBs with the 1st-5th pick when they can contribute day 1. No more top 5 projects, for this team anyway. At pick 15 sure, at pick 2 hell no.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” -
Goff is no project, the guy is as pro football ready as anyone since Luck
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Both Dotson and Jackson III seem worthy of consideration at #32 and both look to be positions of need...
Taking a WR that high would also signify a clean break with the past... not exactly "analytical", but very "psychological".
But there should also be an OT or two in that area.
Both Dotson and Jackson III seem worthy of consideration at #32 and both look to be positions of need...
Taking a WR that high would also signify a clean break with the past... not exactly "analytical", but very "psychological".
But there should also be an OT or two in that area.
Excellent point.
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Why not grab a guy from FA or by trade who is still in his prime that needs a new team? Do you really want to get a brand new qb and maybey win 2 games next year? I am so sick of this garbage of "rebuilding" that is their excuse for losing
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Goff is no project, the guy is as pro football ready as anyone since Luck
No one has been pro ready since Luck and this guy is no Luck.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” -
#2 Jared Goff, QB, Cal
#32 Shilque Calhoun, DE, MSU
Not sure where Calhoun is projected exactly or if he'll fall that far. Too early to really tell anyway probably.
#2 Jared Goff, QB, Cal
#32 Shilque Calhoun, DE, MSU
Not sure where Calhoun is projected exactly or if he'll fall that far. Too early to really tell anyway probably.
Probably this ^
If we go Goff, Calhoun is probably the guy I'd want in the second, as well.
But if we go Bosa, I'd like to see us go Wentz in the second.
I'm also intrigued by what will happen to Jaylon Smith.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
No one has been pro ready since Luck and this guy is no Luck.
This is where I point out the usage of the word as in his post.
He's not Luck - but he may be the most pro-ready QB since Luck. There's a difference.
(And I'm also not 100% sure I agree with that...yet. But he's growing on me.)
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Goff will be gone by the second round. Have to watch the Senior Bowl then combine. I still want Bosa and CARDALE
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No one has been pro ready since Luck and this guy is no Luck.
This is where I point out the usage of the word as in his post.
He's not Luck - but he may be the most pro-ready QB since Luck. There's a difference.
(And I'm also not 100% sure I agree with that...yet. But he's growing on me.)
This is where I point out the usage of the word as in his post.
He's not Luck - but he may be the most pro-ready QB since Luck. There's a difference.
(And I'm also not 100% sure I agree with that...yet. But he's growing on me.)
I know what he said......what I'm saying is if he is not around the same level as Luck, which he is not, then he is a reach a #2. There are guys at the top of this draft that are completely pro ready, opposed to as pro ready as anyone at said position since so and so.
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It is very reasonable to think we don't go QB at #2. We have no idea who is leaving this team (Thomas, Haden, etc). I could see us continuing to start McCown and take a QB in the 2nd or 3rd.
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Oh yes PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us draft a QB in the first and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let him ride the bench for 2 years and then maybe give him 5 games to learn the offense under 2 different coaches with 2 different OC and then wonder why it wont work.
Oh yes PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us draft a QB in the first and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let him ride the bench for 2 years and then maybe give him 5 games to learn the offense under 2 different coaches with 2 different OC and then wonder why it wont work.
if we draft a QB with the 2nd pick he starts day one.
no more let's see what happens when guys have a year or two to try and develop them. bortles, mariota, winston, luck........put that fucker in. hopefully he has a better line than tim couch had.
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Oh yes PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us draft a QB in the first and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let him ride the bench for 2 years and then maybe give him 5 games to learn the offense under 2 different coaches with 2 different OC and then wonder why it wont work.
if we draft a QB with the 2nd pick he starts day one.
no more let's see what happens when guys have a year or two to try and develop them. bortles, mariota, winston, luck........put that fucker in. hopefully he has a better line than tim couch had.
if we draft a QB with the 2nd pick he starts day one.
no more let's see what happens when guys have a year or two to try and develop them. bortles, mariota, winston, luck........put that fucker in. hopefully he has a better line than tim couch had.
I agree...unless he's a dipshit and holds out during camp...but I think the new rookie pay scale and all that kindof prevents that from happening.
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No no no, you draft QBs with the 1st-5th pick when they can contribute day 1. No more top 5 projects, for this team anyway. At pick 15 sure, at pick 2 hell no.
No no no, you draft QBs with the 1st-5th pick when they can contribute day 1. No more top 5 projects, for this team anyway. At pick 15 sure, at pick 2 hell no.
Goff at #2 is the pick. He broke all Lucks and Mariota Pac 12 records along with all Aaron Rodgers cal records. Plus he fits the mold. Open competition with mccown. If it's remotely close you go with the future plain and simple.
"We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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