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  • Oldcrow1945 Oldcrow1945O
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    Oldcrow1945O Oldcrow1945 wrote on last edited by Oldcrow1945
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    This 6'3" 328 lbs D-tackle from Canada had originally agreed to play for Michigan State and then decided to stay closer to home to play for the Western Mustangs.

    There are three things that have me fascinated with this kid.

    He managed 31 reps at 225 lbs.

    He ran a 5.09 40.

    He has already taken the wonderlic and scored a fantastic 38 on it! This places him the 99 percentile among NFL players.

    Evidently he's a great guy.

    I'll post a few pics soon.

    If he is drafted it's thought it'll be in the 7th round or 6th at the highest.

    28 of the 32 NFL teams have contacted him and expressed interest.

    I'd love to see him workout to see how athletic he looks. His coach says he's extremely athletic.

    This could be a late round find to be a back up NT.

    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"
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      Oldcrow1945O Oldcrow1945 wrote on last edited by
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      Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"
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        Oldcrow1945O Oldcrow1945 wrote on last edited by
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        Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"
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        • Timugen T
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          T Timugen wrote on last edited by
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          "I like to quote myself." -Me
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          • heckofajobbrownie H
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            H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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            Nice find, dude.

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            • DawgTracker D
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              D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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              That is a great find. But, I don't understand how an athletic guy who is 328 pounds will last until the 6th or 7th round. And that is especially true when 28 teams have contacted him.

              Why would he last that long? Maybe he has Trex arms. I guess he wouldn't be the first late choice D lineman who you later said "Why didn't someone take this stud earlier?"

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                ? Aloysius wrote on last edited by
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                Here's a fairly detailed scouting report on Martin:

                Positives: Has a well-built frame with long arms, good chest muscle definition, tight waist, good bubble and decent thickness in his thighs and calves…Lacks sudden explosiveness, but shows the initial quickness, balance and body control to charge hard in his backside pursuit…Keeps his pads down nicely for a player of his size and this allows him to gain position and hold his base well vs. double teams…Has the functional change of direction agility to work his way down the line…Demonstrates a punishing hand punch and excellent overall strength to easily handle multiple blockers, stack and control…Plants his foot into the ground to anchor at the point of attack and is quite effective at shooting the gaps when working in-line…Leader by example type, but the staff says he will not only play with pain, but simply refuses to come off the field when hurt…Has a strong work ethic and is a good program type that does not hesitate to mentor the younger players.

                Just adequate coming off the line, but uses his long arm reach and strength to gain advantage out of his stance…Might be a better fit for tackle due to his lack of edge quickness, but he has the strength and size to destroy interior blockers on contact and bull rush with consistency…Shows valid instincts and great vision to quickly locate and run to the ball… Aware of blocking schemes and does a good job of locking out blockers and locating the ball at the X's…Solid wrap-up tackler whose strength lets him quickly disengage from blocks…Has the lower body power in his anchor to neutralize the double team action, consistently stacking while holding ground…Has enough speed to slip off some blocks and uses his hands well to keep the opponent off his body…His arm strength lets him consistently gain separation, stuff and shed…Also has the feet to adjust on the move.

                Shows good desire and effort in his lateral pursuit (more on short area play than going long distances)…Does a nice job of neutralizing the outside run and forcing it back inside…His long arms let him engulf ball carriers, showing good strike form to wrap, secure and take down…Presses the corner well and uses his strength to compensate for adequate speed in attempts to pressure the pocket…Gives a good second effort in attempts to disengage…Lacks the extra burst to close on the quarterback, but will collide and push blockers back into the pocket…Has enough functional quickness to pursue from the backside…Has additional value on offense, as he does a good job of staying low in his pads and squaring his shoulders to widen and sustain the rushing lanes as a lead blocker…Uses his powerful leg drive to break tackles and can be a benefit to a team as a short-yardage runner, demonstrating good ball security and the hip snap to break tackles with his inside runs.

                Negatives: More of a power-oriented pass rusher than an explosive edge rusher, making him a better candidate to play one-gap as a defensive tackle…Has a strong hand punch, but needs to recoil and set quicker when engaging blockers…Also must keep his hands active, as he lacks ideal chop and rip moves when trying to disengage…Lacks an array of moves as a pass rusher and is more of a "meat & potatoes" type that prefers to punish the blocker rather than try to avoid…Might be at maximum growth potential, and additional bulk on his frame could impede his explosion off the snap…Plays with a steady motor, but sometimes his momentum will force him to out-run plays (needs to develop better stop-&-go action)…Will generally play at a good pad level, but will sometimes get high in his stance, resulting in blockers getting underneath his pads to lock him out.

                Compares To: RICHARD SEYMOUR-New England…Martin is more suited to play like Seymour does in the 3-4 alignment - out on the edge as a run stuffer and inside as a pass rusher. He has outstanding strength and size, but needs to develop better hand usage in his attempts to disengage. He does a good job of splitting double teams and does a good job of keeping his feet when moving through trash. He won't spend most of his time chasing down quarterbacks, as he doesn't have the explosive closing speed. But, he is effective at pushing blockers back into the pocket. With his size/strength combination, using him anything outside of the way that Seymour plays would be wasting his athletic ability.

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                  Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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                  Sounds like he is a great fit for as a "Read & React" 3-4 DE like our system. We need inside push because we have Speed rushers with limited moves, not bull rushers, on the outside.

                  So, since everybody is obviously aware of him, how high would you pick him knowing how many more teams will be playing the 3-4 this year. I don't like the fact that we have 3-4 teams sitting right above us.

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                  • lambdo L
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                    L lambdo wrote on last edited by
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                    Think project gents. We had Isreal Idonije back in the day,out of the University of Manitoba before he went to Chicago and got some PT. I don't see him being more athletic then that..

                    He is practice squad because the game speed and technique are defintely not up to par.

                    Draft accordingly...6-7th round or FA sign

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