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  • @chicopee-john said:

    My sense, Steve, is the Texans will go QB hunting in the Draft. Otherwise in the Veteran and / or FA derby.

    Honestly, I don't see Houston (or anybody else) giving up more than a 6-pack of Blatz for JFF.

    Houston is coming on strong and taking a chance on Manziel would be foolhardy, IMHO.

    O'Brien is a no-nonsense guy.

    Doesn't look like it's served him very well so far but...

    Not to mention that if Hackenberg is the answer why waste your resources on Goff?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Doesn't look like it's served him very well so far but...

    Not to mention that if Hackenberg is the answer why waste your resources on Goff?

    WSS

    Good points. Who was the genius with the Tom Savage idea down there before they had to look to Ryan Mallett and Brian Hoyer and Case Keenum and Yates?

    I've only seen Hackenberg a couple times; but he looked about as slow at processing what was in front of him as Brady Quinn did. If the NFL has a Evelyn Woodhead Speed reading class/clinic for QBs this kid needs it or he's going to need a lot more than back brace to hold him together, Can you believe there's a sale on duck tape ad next to me while I'm typing this jibberish about what's going to hold an ackey-breaky Hackenberg together?

  • But Hackensack is big and has a strong arm, Flugs... 😉

    Ag... I've diassembled the "not our starter" thing a few times already... not inclined to do it again.

    Steve... just was throwing back what you threw at me a couple days ago.

    I'm so fucking tired of debating Manziel. Just want him gone so we can move on...

  • But Hackensack is big and has a strong arm, Flugs... 😉

    Ag... I've diassembled the "not our starter" thing a few times already... not inclined to do it again.

    Steve... just was throwing back what you threw at me a couple days ago.

    I'm so fucking tired of debating Manziel. Just want him gone so we can move on...

    @tour2ma said:

    Steve... just was throwing back what you threw at me a couple days ago.

    I knew that.

    Let's just sign Tim Tebow.

    WSS

  • Hoyer is not a franchise qb. with that being said John Manziel could not carry Hoyers jockstrap. Basically sums up this thread. I'm pretty sure Texans want to upgrade that position why would they trade anything for our garbage draft pick qb.

  • But Hackensack is big and has a strong arm, Flugs... 😉

    Ag... I've diassembled the "not our starter" thing a few times already... not inclined to do it again.

    Steve... just was throwing back what you threw at me a couple days ago.

    I'm so fucking tired of debating Manziel. Just want him gone so we can move on...

    @tour2ma said:

    But Hackensack is big and has a strong arm, Flugs... 😉

    I'm so fucking tired of debating Manziel. Just want him gone so we can move on...

    LOL! I hear ya on both points.

  • @hoorta said:

    Because they would have to pull an RGIII + deal to move up enough to take him. As was said- they'll probably sit pat and take Hackenberg.

    What I worry about in the draft is some qb needy team that DOES have enough ammo to jump the Browns will move up to #1. (the only teams that realistically can are the Cowboys @ #4, and the 49ers @ #7.)

    I would take the Cowboys out of that list, they might take a QB at #4 if they really like one, but with the few years left of Romo they are in no position to give away draft picks.

    The 49ers definitely have the ammunition - 2 4th rounders, 3 5th rounders and possibly 4 6th rounders...

    @andeftw said:

    I would take the Cowboys out of that list, they might take a QB at #4 if they really like one, but with the few years left of Romo they are in no position to give away draft picks.

    The 49ers definitely have the ammunition - 2 4th rounders, 3 5th rounders and possibly 4 6th rounders...

    good point. 49ers 1st, 2nd, 4th, and a second next year might do it.

  • VesnaKociper said:

    I would go after a QB every freaking draft until we hit pay dirt. Nothing else will work.

    ... and once we hit paydirt every other to every third year... just not on Day One.

  • @richiswhere said:

    Why would the Texans trade for Manziel when they could give the Titans and offer they couldn't refuse for the number 1 pick and take God err Goff

    Because one is going to cost you three first round picks, while Manziel could be had for almost nothing?

    O'Brien is going to draft Hackenberg anyways...

    @andeftw said:

    Because one is going to cost you three first round picks, while Manziel could be had for almost nothing?

    O'Brien is going to draft Hackenberg anyways...

    Good point.....Was Hackenberg an O'Brien recruit? Or was that Joe Paterno? Either way, O'Brien coached him at Penn St. And Hack did better under O'Brien.

  • I'm not even a texans fan but after the 3rd int i couldn't even look at Hoyers face. I felt so bad for Watt.

    @clevfan4life said:

    I'm not even a texans fan but after the 3rd int i couldn't even look at Hoyers face. I felt so bad for Watt.

    I was looking for Weeden's face....but it never showed up.

  • @richiswhere said:

    Why would the Texans trade for Manziel when they could give the Titans and offer they couldn't refuse for the number 1 pick and take God err Goff

    Because they would have to pull an RGIII + deal to move up enough to take him. As was said- they'll probably sit pat and take Hackenberg.

    @andeftw said:

    Because one is going to cost you three first round picks, while Manziel could be had for almost nothing?

    O'Brien is going to draft Hackenberg anyways...

    What I worry about in the draft is some qb needy team that DOES have enough ammo to jump the Browns will move up to #1. (the only teams that realistically can are the Cowboys @ #4, and the 49ers @ #7.)

    @hoorta said:

    Because they would have to pull an RGIII + deal to move up enough to take him. As was said- they'll probably sit pat and take Hackenberg.

    Texas maybe able to get RGIII himself.....and maybe should do so.

    What I worry about in the draft is some qb needy team that DOES have enough ammo to jump the Browns will move up to #1. (the only teams that realistically can are the Cowboys @ #4, and the 49ers @ #7.)

    Let them.....none of these QBs are #1 quality. Let someone trade for Goff/Lynch....and the Browns get Bosa.

    That is what the analytics would say, No? 😉

  • RG3 played it cool. I have respect for him now. He showed professionalism a la Alex Smith.