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  • Before people get too caught up the Occam's Razor approach would suggest he simply is exploring all his options even though he likes what Cleveland presented.

    With that being said though, I'm probably wrong cause it's the Browns. I really hope Hue is the guy though.

  • Jackson, Flip, and Jim Schwartz. I can hope, right?

  • That is a decent combo

  • Jackson, Flip, and Jim Schwartz. I can hope, right?

    @gftchris said:

    Jackson, Flip, and Jim Schwartz. I can hope, right?

    Yea I'd be happy with Schwartz as DC.

  • Has Lovie Smith been snatched up?

  • Has Lovie Smith been snatched up?

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Has Lovie Smith been snatched up?

    IMHO, Smith got the shaft in TB and did a pretty good job in Chicago. Don't know enough to say, but I suspect part of his exit in Chicago had to do with his inability to either control or improve the QB.

    I believe Lovie is a good, solid coach. Not a rah rah guy but somebody who knows the NFL.

    I'm a bit lukewarm about Smith in Cleveland but there are far worse candidates that have already been interviewed.

  • I'd rather Smith than Marrone.

  • why no on Marrone? He ran a very good D in Buffalo didn't he?

  • http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/1/12/10758230/recapping-where-the-browns-stand-with-hue-jackson

    Sounds like we actually might have a plan. I think we'll make an offer after he meets with the Giants, and it'll be a very nice one.

  • If...IF...we do, than I guess the question is...who the heck does he bring in as DC? To me, that's just as important as anything else.

  • why no on Marrone? He ran a very good D in Buffalo didn't he?

    @clevfan4life said:

    why no on Marrone? He ran a very good D in Buffalo didn't he?

    Seems like a total douchebag. Apparently word got around from people who used to play for him in Buffalo about his douche-ness, and a lot of players will want out.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/01/cleveland_browns_interview_dou.html

  • I'm more concerned with the scheme's he'd run rather than these players, most of whom I want out anyway...like or don't like him.

  • why no on Marrone? He ran a very good D in Buffalo didn't he?

    Marrone is more like Mangina 2.0, maybe a Greg Schiano type. Tough hard ass mantra-repeating coach, but remarkably average.

    @clevfan4life said:

    why no on Marrone? He ran a very good D in Buffalo didn't he?

    Pretty good talent in Buffalo, and the best defensive year under Marrone in Buffalo was when Schwartz was DC.

    Schwartz has ancient Cleveland ties so maybe getting him in Cleveland would be possible.

    I don't have any major problems with Marrone, I just think it would be a hugely average hire.

  • I'd rather Smith than Marrone.

    @gftchris said:

    I'd rather Smith than Marrone.

    Rather have an offensive mind in Marrane instead of a perennial loser like Lovie.

  • @gftchris said:

    I'd rather Smith than Marrone.

    Rather have an offensive mind in Marrane instead of a perennial loser like Lovie.

    @nickers said:

    Rather have an offensive mind in Marrane instead of a perennial loser like Lovie.

    Not to be mean, but if you're disagreeing with me I know I'm on the right path 😉

    Besides, Marrone (or Marrane?) is hardly an offensive guru, the guy has coached OL almost exclusively.

  • "Offensively, Marrone led an offense that finished first in the AFC and second in the NFL in rushing (144.2 avg.). It also led the NFL with 95.5 percent efficiency in the red zone. Rookie quarterback E.J. Manuel started 10 games and set team rookie records for passing touchdowns (11) and completions (180).

    The Bills had three different players with 60 receptions in 2014 for the first time in team history (Fred Jackson, 65; Sammy Watkins, 62; Robert Woods, 61) and the club produced six individual 100-yard receiving games. The Bills ranked sixth in the NFL in 2014 with a plus-seven turnover differential."

    It doesn't sound like he did too bad. Pettine was beloved by the players and lost. Bringing in a hard nosed coach might piss in the Cheerios of some of the players but they played like shit this season. No one will have much sympathy.

  • Logic I never got the vibe that "Pettine was beloved by the players." But that's just my opinion.

  • Logic I never got the vibe that "Pettine was beloved by the players." But that's just my opinion.

    @blowe said:

    Logic I never got the vibe that "Pettine was beloved by the players." But that's just my opinion.

    The veterans defended Pett on several occasions.

  • Last one on this list of potential HCs has an interesting side comment next to the name.

    http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/1/6/10727052/tracking-the-cleveland-browns-list-of-head-coach-candidates

  • We'll never know for sure, but I too got the impression that the players liked him as well. Pettine appeared to be generous on things like days off and veteran excused practice days. But who really knows? Perhaps the players just don't want to learn an entirely new system, and who could blame them? That has to be exhausting, and for a few of our veterans, they've gone through this how many times?

    The aforementioned stats on Marrone are impressive to me...ESPECIALLY the red zone stats. I don't need to remind anyone here just how awful our red zone offense was. It was completely infuriating, and it cost us severely. For me, I felt like every time we got the ball in the red zone, it was a FG attempt. Even if we got the ball to the five yard line, I still felt like we had little chance for 6. I don't know if it was poor play calling, poor execution, dismal talent...or a combination, but I DO know our red zone offense completely sucks, and I'm sick of it. For one, we don't have a reliable "fade route WR", and every damn week I see multiple TD's with that toss. Gary can make the grab, but he's not a WR. We need to be able to throw that route to either side of the field so the defense can't cheat. Is Benji going up for that ball? Marlan Moore? Hawkins? Gabriel? Hartline? Not so much, although out of those people I guess Hartline MIGHT be the closest thing we have. Other than that, I could see Terrell Pryor going up to snatch the ball, but I don't see him on the roster in 2016 (I might be wrong, but doubt it).

    If we lock up Hue Jackson, does anyone have information on who his coordinators might be?