Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I thought the Vegas trip was proven false with the ticket?
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I thought the Vegas trip was proven false with the ticket?
I think ticket was like early Saturday morning, Vegas is a 4 hour flight or so from Cleveland.
Maybe on the way to the airport

The fact he's gone into hiding and refuses to show his face or talk to anybody is concerning at this point.
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I thought the Vegas trip was proven false with the ticket?
I think ticket was like early Saturday morning, Vegas is a 4 hour flight or so from Cleveland.
Maybe on the way to the airport

The fact he's gone into hiding and refuses to show his face or talk to anybody is concerning at this point.
I think ticket was like early Saturday morning, Vegas is a 4 hour flight or so from Cleveland.
Maybe on the way to the airport

The fact he's gone into hiding and refuses to show his face or talk to anybody is concerning at this point.
Think he's back in a rehab facility? 50-50 I'd say. Especially if Dr. Jones in Big D has spoken with him. 🥷
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I thought the Vegas trip was proven false with the ticket?
Ummm ... No.
It meant the idiot got pulled over for an expired tag on the way to the airport.
We are done with the bitch.
Z
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OK boys, now's your chance to get rid of him. LOLOLOL
:lol:
:lol:http://www.bringjohnny2dallas.com/#
Guess the name of #240 on the list of those claiming to sign.
Hue Jackson. LOL!

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OK boys, now's your chance to get rid of him. LOLOLOL
:lol:
:lol:http://www.bringjohnny2dallas.com/#
Guess the name of #240 on the list of those claiming to sign.
Hue Jackson. LOL!

OK boys, now's your chance to get rid of him. LOLOLOL
:lol:
:lol:Thanks.
I signed it "Gettum Outtacleveland"
Z
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Am I the only one surprised that we haven't heard a peep from Johnny, or TMZ come or assholes with camera phones or Twitter accounts or Instagram or anything recently? Seems like this would be the time of year he'd be hitting the party circuit the hardest.
And you know the media wants something. Are they still camped out in front of his house?
WSS
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Whatever happened to giving people the benefit of the doubt?
Innocent until proven guilty? You don't know Manziel. Or his struggle. We each have our own. Nobody knows if he snorts cocaine on a REGULAR basis or Drinks and Drives. Whether or not he BEAT his girlfriend. If he had a concussion or was pulled because another social media post. It's the day and age we live in folks. Many of you are not of this new generation, nor am I, but at least I know that this is the new normal. We're not going to be able to go back to the days of Paul Brown... however bad I wish we could...
He's not that bad of a kid. He's a young man with the world as his oyster, and he can't come out of his house. And with every camera aimed his direction(even his own) any small mistake take center stage. It's pure pressure. You think you have a problem with something? Take that and magnify it 1000%.
Johnny I ain't mad at you. I don't want to take being young from you, and I don't know why others would. I accepted what came with Manziel when we took him and understood that he would be an American fixation. Accept, grin and bear it and let's win some football game in dramatic fashion. Lights camera action.
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Whatever happened to giving people the benefit of the doubt?
Innocent until proven guilty? You don't know Manziel. Or his struggle. We each have our own. Nobody knows if he snorts cocaine on a REGULAR basis or Drinks and Drives. Whether or not he BEAT his girlfriend. If he had a concussion or was pulled because another social media post. It's the day and age we live in folks. Many of you are not of this new generation, nor am I, but at least I know that this is the new normal. We're not going to be able to go back to the days of Paul Brown... however bad I wish we could...
He's not that bad of a kid. He's a young man with the world as his oyster, and he can't come out of his house. And with every camera aimed his direction(even his own) any small mistake take center stage. It's pure pressure. You think you have a problem with something? Take that and magnify it 1000%.
Johnny I ain't mad at you. I don't want to take being young from you, and I don't know why others would. I accepted what came with Manziel when we took him and understood that he would be an American fixation. Accept, grin and bear it and let's win some football game in dramatic fashion. Lights camera action.
Whatever happened to giving people the benefit of the doubt?
Innocent until proven guilty? You don't know Manziel. Or his struggle. We each have our own. Nobody knows if he snorts cocaine on a REGULAR basis or Drinks and Drives. Whether or not he BEAT his girlfriend. If he had a concussion or was pulled because another social media post. It's the day and age we live in folks. Many of you are not of this new generation, nor am I, but at least I know that this is the new normal. We're not going to be able to go back to the days of Paul Brown... however bad I wish we could...
He's not that bad of a kid. He's a young man with the world as his oyster, and he can't come out of his house. And with every camera aimed his direction(even his own) any small mistake take center stage. It's pure pressure. You think you have a problem with something? Take that and magnify it 1000%.
Johnny I ain't mad at you. I don't want to take being young from you, and I don't know why others would. I accepted what came with Manziel when we took him and understood that he would be an American fixation. Accept, grin and bear it and let's win some football game in dramatic fashion. Lights camera action.
The fact that he isn't a good football player doesn't help his case.
I want him to do good as a person, but missing team meetings, playing bad, and giving Cleveland negative attention is not good for us.
He can get his life together, then try for an opportunity somewhere that isn't Cleveland
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Manziel's fans should just go ahead and start making profiles for CFL team forums. Need to keep up with their rascal QB and get dibs on Manziel related forum handles.
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Nike wants to drop him for being a single guy in vegas...but they sponsor dog killers...spouse abusers...wife cheaters....
I wouldnt buy a nike product if it was the last retailer on earth
Nike wants to drop him for being a single guy in vegas...but they sponsor dog killers...spouse abusers...wife cheaters....
I wouldnt buy a nike product if it was the last retailer on earth
Nike has money to burn anyway. I you buy a Browns jersey, you're supporting Nike though. Old Phil probably tosses a million a year or more at Oregon gifting those 50 different unis they wear. Heard Ohio State got bought out to be Nike exclusive- to the tune of $250 million for the next couple decades.
I think ticket was like early Saturday morning, Vegas is a 4 hour flight or so from Cleveland.
Maybe on the way to the airport

The fact he's gone into hiding and refuses to show his face or talk to anybody is concerning at this point.
Yup, if he doesn't show to talk to Hue, he's done.
Zombo said:
Thanks.
I signed it "Gettum Outtacleveland"
Z
I signed Cleveland Will-buy-your-ticket
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Whatever happened to giving people the benefit of the doubt?
Innocent until proven guilty? You don't know Manziel. Or his struggle. We each have our own. Nobody knows if he snorts cocaine on a REGULAR basis or Drinks and Drives. Whether or not he BEAT his girlfriend. If he had a concussion or was pulled because another social media post. It's the day and age we live in folks. Many of you are not of this new generation, nor am I, but at least I know that this is the new normal. We're not going to be able to go back to the days of Paul Brown... however bad I wish we could...
He's not that bad of a kid. He's a young man with the world as his oyster, and he can't come out of his house. And with every camera aimed his direction(even his own) any small mistake take center stage. It's pure pressure. You think you have a problem with something? Take that and magnify it 1000%.
Johnny I ain't mad at you. I don't want to take being young from you, and I don't know why others would. I accepted what came with Manziel when we took him and understood that he would be an American fixation. Accept, grin and bear it and let's win some football game in dramatic fashion. Lights camera action.
Whatever happened to giving people the benefit of the doubt?
Innocent until proven guilty? You don't know Manziel. Or his struggle. We each have our own. Nobody knows if he snorts cocaine on a REGULAR basis or Drinks and Drives. Whether or not he BEAT his girlfriend. If he had a concussion or was pulled because another social media post. It's the day and age we live in folks. Many of you are not of this new generation, nor am I, but at least I know that this is the new normal. We're not going to be able to go back to the days of Paul Brown... however bad I wish we could...
He's not that bad of a kid. He's a young man with the world as his oyster, and he can't come out of his house. And with every camera aimed his direction(even his own) any small mistake take center stage. It's pure pressure. You think you have a problem with something? Take that and magnify it 1000%.
Johnny I ain't mad at you. I don't want to take being young from you, and I don't know why others would. I accepted what came with Manziel when we took him and understood that he would be an American fixation. Accept, grin and bear it and let's win some football game in dramatic fashion. Lights camera action.
I know you're going to support Johnny to the bitter end- (just like Richardson). Did you listen to Hue's presser? Character and accountability, traits JFF is sorely lacking in. Color him way gone. I personally will be shocked if Manziel is still on the Browns roster when training camp opens.
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There are plenty of young men in the NFL who handled their business, showed up everyday to work and did everything that was asked of them as a player and teammate. Billy didn't and you cant blame that on age. His team mates went to battle against a desperate Steeler team......Billy went to party. His next locker room will be a challenge.
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There are plenty of young men in the NFL who handled their business, showed up everyday to work and did everything that was asked of them as a player and teammate. Billy didn't and you cant blame that on age. His team mates went to battle against a desperate Steeler team......Billy went to party. His next locker room will be a challenge.
There are plenty of young men in the NFL who handled their business, showed up everyday to work and did everything that was asked of them as a player and teammate.
And still suck.
WSS
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There are plenty of young men in the NFL who handled their business, showed up everyday to work and did everything that was asked of them as a player and teammate.
And still suck.
WSS
vs Billy who is a bad teammate AND sucks.And still suck.
WSS
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He's a playmaker and makes things happen on the field. Did you watch the games? The announcers the whole time can't stop raving about what he does out there. And we're typically listening to the same announcers that diss us all game. But Wow, did you see manziel do this? Oh, look at that, he's magic~ ect. ect.
Yeah, best QB we've had but he sucks cause you can't handle social media...
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Both seasons he's been here he's had to sit behind coaches favorite. We've got a coach now that is offensive minded and can see potential where Pettine only cared about who could provide the most wins... in which case he was also wrong.
When Manziel is successful and making things happen and he's engaged, there are no problems. You sit him on the bench for 2 years and playmakers get restless.
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He's a playmaker and makes things happen on the field. Did you watch the games? The announcers the whole time can't stop raving about what he does out there. And we're typically listening to the same announcers that diss us all game. But Wow, did you see manziel do this? Oh, look at that, he's magic~ ect. ect.
Yeah, best QB we've had but he sucks cause you can't handle social media...
He's a playmaker and makes things happen on the field. Did you watch the games? The announcers the whole time can't stop raving about what he does out there. And we're typically listening to the same announcers that diss us all game. But Wow, did you see manziel do this? Oh, look at that, he's magic~ ect. ect.
Yeah, best QB we've had but he sucks cause you can't handle social media...
He has some talent but isn't a professional.
He SAT because he didn't work at the game. He thought he'd "made it" when he was drafted and didn't have to work anymore.
He has a big arm, but only throws one kind of pass - a hard line drive pass.
For a small guy, he'll get a lot of them blocked at the line.
Without being able to throw the high arc, touch-pass-to-the-corner-of-the-end-zone-that-only-his-receiver-can-catch he'll fail in the red zone as a passer.
He isn't poison because of social media.
He's poison because - as an alcoholic - today he says he won't do anything to embarrass the team, then tomorrow takes selfies of himself drinking away and posts them to the internet.
He has personal problems that he needs to address and isn't doing so to this point.
In today's NFL - and general world of instant gratification - there's no time to wait for him to grow up.
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