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Hue Trageting Ray Horton For Dc Lol!

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  • Is it the same defense Seattle runs?

  • The only reason they would be considering Horton is that they want to stick with the majority of these players. Which i'm sorry, thats a recipe for continuing to be one of the worst defense's in the NFL. No way Horton comes here, he knows full well he'll be looking for a job again when Jackson is fired in a year or two. THe defense needs a complete overhaul, i'm sorry but it does.

  • I vaguely remember his defense being winded in the 4th quarter.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I vaguely remember his defense being wounded in the 4th quarter.

    Because he played the same guys all game long instead of smartly shuttling them in and out to keep them fresh... 😛

  • Here's a trivia question:

    Who was the Titans defensive coordinator at the time, when the Hoyer led Browns generated the largest come from behind victory on the road?

    @canton-dawg said:

    Here's a trivia question:

    Who was the Titans defensive coordinator at the time, when the Hoyer led Browns generated the largest come from behind victory on the road?

    Read this and visions of the New England game flashed through my mind.......

    @tour2ma said:

    Because he played the same guys all game long instead of smartly shuttling them in and out to keep them fresh... 😛

    Ha!.....not sure which wears em out more....playing the whole game or running on and off the field.....

  • @westside-steve said:

    I vaguely remember his defense being wounded in the 4th quarter.

    Because he played the same guys all game long instead of smartly shuttling them in and out to keep them fresh... 😛

    @tour2ma said:

    Because he played the same guys all game long instead of smartly shuttling them in and out to keep them fresh... 😛

    Maybe.

    Whatever the reason 3 and outs didn't help either.

    WSS

  • Horton hears a Hue

    Had to be done

    @bbedward said:

    Horton hears a Hue

    Had to be done

    That's a lot better than 3 consecutive years of Horton hears a boo.

  • Why would the Titans let him go since it'd be a lateral move?

    @bbedward said:

    Why would the Titans let him go since it'd be a lateral move?

    Good point but I can prolly give us a why here.

    He was so bad at trying to be Dick LeBeau in TN that they had to go out and hire the real Dick LeBeau. For example, as Canton Dawg reminded us - what DC gives up a 28-3 2nd quarter lead to the Cleveland Browns? Ray Horton in a 2 win season. Not only that but that huge lead we had on the NE Patriots in 2013 was most remembered by the pass interference on Leon McFadden being singled up outside. Rodney Harrison and Tony Dungy couldn't believe our DC didn't give him any Safety help over the type on that play especially after they lost Gronk earlier in that game. This last year TN only won 3 games with the most common complaints on the Nashville radio shows hosted by Frank Wycheck (morning) and Blaine Bishop (afternoon/pm) were blown assignments and piss poor tackling throughout their 5-27 football in 2014 and 2015. That's a Bob Slowik caliber/standard for anyone that is okay with looking like an expansion team for 2 straight years.

    I LOVE that we got Hue hoping he's the difference we haven't had. IMO a big part of the Groundhog's Day sequel we have going on is fed and perpetuated from a lack of attention to what got us here. To understand where you are going - you HAVE to know where you are coming from. On defense it's been chaos, confusion, and paralysis from over-analysis intercepting sic em, sock em and sack em just as much as overall talent and injury. Ray Horton might have a good idea and he's prolly even a great interview; but when it's time to teach - his students look lost on the field. As much as we want Jimmy to stay the flock out of things - I hope to God he reminds Hue of Horton's current trend of 3 years.

  • Rob Ryan > Horton

  • Rob Ryan > Horton

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Rob Ryan > Horton

    I like Rob Ryan.

    WSS

  • Honestly Hue Jackson is losing alot if credibility with me by going after horton who is probably getting fired for the 3rd time in 5 years from the titans. Consistent terrible redzone defense and 3rd down defense. Falls apart in the 4th. I swear if this is another "I got you blood" like it was with farmer and bowe we are in for a very long couple of seasons. While this fuckin guy gets to make bank and get all his buddies rich on the browns backs. Can we hire a fucking professional for once? Team needs over personal needs for once... god damn...

  • Well, I do remember that we did not have a lot of blow outs and usually lost our games in the 4th quarter with Horton (which I put much of the blame on our offense for practically killing our defense with possession time (of course the other team is going to score if they are on the field for 3 or the 4 quarters of time). I am not sure I like the Horton idea but I think it is a better choice than our choice to keep Tabor as our ST coordinator. Then again, that is why I am not a HC and Hue is. Guess we will see in the end.

  • I don't see the logic behind recycling Horton...

  • 4th team in 6 fucking years if we hire him...ridiculous...

  • Rob Ryan > Horton

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Rob Ryan > Horton

    Rex hired Rob about 1 week after his colorful comments about why he wasn't going to hire Rob. Stay tuned...

  • Well, I do remember that we did not have a lot of blow outs and usually lost our games in the 4th quarter with Horton (which I put much of the blame on our offense for practically killing our defense with possession time (of course the other team is going to score if they are on the field for 3 or the 4 quarters of time). I am not sure I like the Horton idea but I think it is a better choice than our choice to keep Tabor as our ST coordinator. Then again, that is why I am not a HC and Hue is. Guess we will see in the end.

    @joedawg69 said:

    Well, I do remember that we did not have a lot of blow outs and usually lost our games in the 4th quarter with Horton (which I put much of the blame on our offense for practically killing our defense with possession time (of course the other team is going to score if they are on the field for 3 or the 4 quarters of time). I am not sure I like the Horton idea but I think it is a better choice than our choice to keep Tabor as our ST coordinator. Then again, that is why I am not a HC and Hue is. Guess we will see in the end.

    And then he had the exact same thing happen with the titans for 2 years? So 4 years worth of of the same poop and you eant more of it?

  • Rob Ryan looks like a badass, not much else.

    He had to go to his brother because nobody is dumb enough to hire him as DC again

  • If Horton is the guy, count me in as someone who thinks recycling this retread is sad and pathetic. Ray Horton defenses look confused and pathetic. I remember us being down 4 scores against that crappy titans team and thinking "you know, we probably have a chance because of Horton" and sure enough their defense folded and we did. Even though are ypg wasnt terrible when he was here with chud some of the time, that overrates the actual effectiveness of our defense.

    The characteristic of a ray horton defense is giving up big chunk plays through the air over the middle, and allowing lots of open quick slants and such. He isn't a defensive mind who 'gets it' when it comes to 2016 in the nfl.

    And as an aside, all the circle jerking for hue around here so far is a bit lame. I don't have any idea if he will be good or not. It's good to see pettine gone and I find it hard to believe he wont be an upgrade on him, but we'll see. I would have rather had Gase who i think has the potential to be a real gamechanger on offense in terms of an offensive mind and I would have rather had Kelly too because he has proven he can win....two back to back 10-6 seasons without a loaded roster after inheriting a 4-12 team. He is 26-21 in 3 years. Ill take 26-21 over the next 3 years.......

  • It doesn't matter to me that he coached in Cleveland before.

    Actually it's a plus in my book if he wants to come back.

    He's not bad. Probably learned a few things since his last stint.

    But I would still love to hear Schwartz's name surface.

    Z

  • Rob Ryan sucks ass, are you insane?

  • It doesn't matter to me that he coached in Cleveland before.

    Actually it's a plus in my book if he wants to come back.

    He's not bad. Probably learned a few things since his last stint.

    But I would still love to hear Schwartz's name surface.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    It doesn't matter to me that he coached in Cleveland before.

    Actually it's a plus in my book if he wants to come back.

    He's not bad. Probably learned a few things since his last stint.

    But I would still love to hear Schwartz's name surface.

    Z

    Last I heard - his brother just hired him this week.

    Lovie Smith might not be a bad guy to interview.

    And if we're going to give old coaches here another shot - Mangini might not be a bad DC or defensive position coach to at least interview. Some guys do way better with being responsible for just 1 phase than all 3. I also remember the year when BB had Mangini train a WR (Troy Brown?) to play defensive back for an injury depleted secondary in the playoffs. It ended up working pretty well if memory serves me right here. Not a bad reflection of his ability to coach a specific phase or position.