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  • OldBrownsFan OldBrownsFanO
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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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    Probably one of the best quick fixes to corruption in politics would be term limits. The longer a politician is in Washington the more beholden they get to special interest groups and lobbyists. Let someone serve no more than a couple terms than bring in someone else.

    Getting rid of career politicians would be a great first step in improving our politics.

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    • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

      Probably one of the best quick fixes to corruption in politics would be term limits. The longer a politician is in Washington the more beholden they get to special interest groups and lobbyists. Let someone serve no more than a couple terms than bring in someone else.

      Getting rid of career politicians would be a great first step in improving our politics.

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      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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      @oldbrownsfan said:

      Probably one of the best quick fixes to corruption in politics would be term limits. The longer a politician is in Washington the more beholden they get to special interest groups and lobbyists. Let someone serve no more than a couple terms than bring in someone else.

      Getting rid of career politicians would be a great first step in improving our politics.

      Meh. For every corrupt crony in government there are a hundred more willing to take a few million in donations to do the bidding of the donors. Term limits just mean you move on from Ted Cruz to Jeb Bush to Marco Rubio to whoever else.

      On the flip side of someone is actually making a difference they should be able to stay.

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        Old I completely disagree. If everyone got a single term the party would go completely ballistic with reelection assault. Worse than any candidate could have imagined.

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          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          You can make an argument for and against term limits. I used to oppose them believing let the voters decide but I think on balance we would be better off with term limits:

          Arguments for and against term limits

          http://wichitaliberty.org/politics/arguments-term-limits/

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            bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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            - Reverse Citizens United vs FEC and McCutcheon vs FEC

            - Use the "People's Pledge"

            - Strengthen up disclosure for donors

            Few things that could help the money in politics/corruption issue.

            Finding a candidate to get that done is a different story - it sure as hell wouldn't be Ted Cruz, he loves his money and kickbacks he gets from wall street.

            Ted Cruz is a Princeton/Harvard lawyer who is in bed with Goldman Sachs, Citi, and all those other wall street cucks. Not sure how he is winning over the "true conservatives"

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              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              I have a harder time seeing Trump as a true conservative over Cruz...by far.

              Will the real Donald Trump please stand up?

              Over the past two decades he was a Republican, then an independent, then a Democrat, then a Republican.


              Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/will-the-real-donald-trump-please-stand-up-120607#ixzz3xc65zy4o
              The many ways in which Donald Trump was once a liberal’s liberal

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/09/ths-many-ways-in-which-donald-trump-was-once-a-liberals-liberal/

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                - Reverse Citizens United vs FEC and McCutcheon vs FEC

                - Use the "People's Pledge"

                - Strengthen up disclosure for donors

                Few things that could help the money in politics/corruption issue.

                Finding a candidate to get that done is a different story - it sure as hell wouldn't be Ted Cruz, he loves his money and kickbacks he gets from wall street.

                Ted Cruz is a Princeton/Harvard lawyer who is in bed with Goldman Sachs, Citi, and all those other wall street cucks. Not sure how he is winning over the "true conservatives"

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                @bbedward said:

                - Reverse Citizens United vs FEC and McCutcheon vs FEC

                - Use the "People's Pledge"

                - Strengthen up disclosure for donors

                Few things that could help the money in politics/corruption issue.

                Finding a candidate to get that done is a different story - it sure as hell wouldn't be Ted Cruz, he loves his money and kickbacks he gets from wall street.

                Ted Cruz is a Princeton/Harvard lawyer who is in bed with Goldman Sachs, Citi, and all those other wall street cucks. Not sure how he is winning over the "true conservatives"

                Sounds like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton who pose as populists.

                WSS

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                  @bbedward said:

                  - Reverse Citizens United vs FEC and McCutcheon vs FEC

                  - Use the "People's Pledge"

                  - Strengthen up disclosure for donors

                  Few things that could help the money in politics/corruption issue.

                  Finding a candidate to get that done is a different story - it sure as hell wouldn't be Ted Cruz, he loves his money and kickbacks he gets from wall street.

                  Ted Cruz is a Princeton/Harvard lawyer who is in bed with Goldman Sachs, Citi, and all those other wall street cucks. Not sure how he is winning over the "true conservatives"

                  Sounds like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton who pose as populists.

                  WSS

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                  bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Sounds like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton who pose as populists.

                  WSS

                  Obama/Clinton/Bush/Cruz/Rubio are pretty much all the same in that regard. Though Obama was the absolute master at it.

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                    I have a harder time seeing Trump as a true conservative over Cruz...by far.

                    Will the real Donald Trump please stand up?

                    Over the past two decades he was a Republican, then an independent, then a Democrat, then a Republican.


                    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/will-the-real-donald-trump-please-stand-up-120607#ixzz3xc65zy4o
                    The many ways in which Donald Trump was once a liberal’s liberal

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/09/ths-many-ways-in-which-donald-trump-was-once-a-liberals-liberal/

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                    I have a harder time seeing Trump as a true conservative over Cruz...by far.

                    Will the real Donald Trump please stand up?

                    Over the past two decades he was a Republican, then an independent, then a Democrat, then a Republican.

                    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/will-the-real-donald-trump-please-stand-up-120607#ixzz3xc65zy4o

                    The many ways in which Donald Trump was once a liberal’s liberal

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/09/ths-many-ways-in-which-donald-trump-was-once-a-liberals-liberal/

                    Yes, Cruz seems more like your standard generic 'new age' republican - lower taxes, repeal obama-everything, deny climate change, anti-abortion, etc.

                    Trump is not many of those things and should really be running as an independent. But then without a party backing him up, and seats in the senate, he'd be running the country by executive order, which is not so great.

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                      And nothing is really going to change the seats of power in America or the world. Politicians can Yap away but they would do well to keep in mind that they are little more than gifted sock puppets who strut about their offices at the pleasure of the king.

                      😉

                      WSS

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                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                        I have a harder time seeing Trump as a true conservative over Cruz...by far.

                        Will the real Donald Trump please stand up?

                        Over the past two decades he was a Republican, then an independent, then a Democrat, then a Republican.

                        Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/will-the-real-donald-trump-please-stand-up-120607#ixzz3xc65zy4o

                        The many ways in which Donald Trump was once a liberal’s liberal

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/09/ths-many-ways-in-which-donald-trump-was-once-a-liberals-liberal/

                        Yes, Cruz seems more like your standard generic 'new age' republican - lower taxes, repeal obama-everything, deny climate change, anti-abortion, etc.

                        Trump is not many of those things and should really be running as an independent. But then without a party backing him up, and seats in the senate, he'd be running the country by executive order, which is not so great.

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                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                        @gftchris said:

                        Yes, Cruz seems more like your standard generic 'new age' republican - lower taxes, repeal obama-everything, deny climate change, anti-abortion, etc.

                        Trump is not many of those things and should really be running as an independent. But then without a party backing him up, and seats in the senate, he'd be running the country by executive order, which is not so great.

                        I give Trump credit for a newbie in politics he is a very fast learner but Cruz is the best debater in the field. I was surprised (at first) Cruz opened up the door to Trump about New York values which allowed Trump to counter with 9-11 responders and apparently win the point. Trump had already used the 9-11 argument before the debate in response to New York values and Cruz had to have known how he would answer.

                        Now Cruz is doubling down on New York values and how they apply to Trump and using Trump's own words against him for as recently as the late 90's Trump was espousing some very liberal views and attributed them to his New York values which he stated were different from those in Iowa. I see why Cruz wanted to open the door about Trump's New York values in the debate knowing how it will play out long term. Most conservatives understand entirely what New York values actually means and it has nothing to do with 9-11.

                        What Mark Levine says here about sums it up:

                        Mark Levin opened his show last night defending what should be common sense regarding what Ted Cruz said about New York Values. Levin said that you have to be out of your mind to believe that Ted Cruz was trashing the police, firefighters or any emergency personnel in New York.

                        Rather, as Levin points out, Cruz was talking about the values of all the liberals that run NY state, from the governor to the commie mayor to the conga line of kooks that run the city council in Manhattan.

                        And when Trump brought up 9/11 in response to Cruz’s explanation on this, Levin said he actually started to cringe. Levin asked what the World Trade Center has to do with anything? It’s something he’d expect a liberal to say because it has nothing to do with Ted Cruz’s point.

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                        • W Westside Steve

                          And nothing is really going to change the seats of power in America or the world. Politicians can Yap away but they would do well to keep in mind that they are little more than gifted sock puppets who strut about their offices at the pleasure of the king.

                          😉

                          WSS

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                          @westside-steve said:

                          And nothing is really going to change the seats of power in America or the world. Politicians can Yap away but they would do well to keep in mind that they are little more than gifted sock puppets who strut about their offices at the pleasure of the king.

                          😉

                          WSS

                          Truer words have never been spoken, even though I think we probably disagree with who "the king" is 🙂

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            And nothing is really going to change the seats of power in America or the world. Politicians can Yap away but they would do well to keep in mind that they are little more than gifted sock puppets who strut about their offices at the pleasure of the king.

                            😉

                            WSS

                            Truer words have never been spoken, even though I think we probably disagree with who "the king" is 🙂

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                            @baconhound said:

                            Truer words have never been spoken, even though I think we probably disagree with who "the king" is 🙂

                            Maybe not, Id be interested in who you think it might be.

                            Quite possibly we agree on who but not on whether or not it pisses us off.

                            🙂

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                              @baconhound said:

                              Truer words have never been spoken, even though I think we probably disagree with who "the king" is 🙂

                              Maybe not, Id be interested in who you think it might be.

                              Quite possibly we agree on who but not on whether or not it pisses us off.

                              🙂

                              WSS

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                              @westside-steve said:

                              Maybe not, Id be interested in who you think it might be.

                              Quite possibly we agree on who but not on whether or not it pisses us off.

                              🙂

                              WSS

                              Human Nature. It is hard coded in our DNA to want to be dominant and when we achieve it we will do anything to not let it go.

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                                @westside-steve said:

                                Maybe not, Id be interested in who you think it might be.

                                Quite possibly we agree on who but not on whether or not it pisses us off.

                                🙂

                                WSS

                                Human Nature. It is hard coded in our DNA to want to be dominant and when we achieve it we will do anything to not let it go.

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                                @baconhound said:

                                Human Nature. It is hard coded in our DNA to want to be dominant and when we achieve it we will do anything to not let it go.

                                Exactly true. You'll never see a lion instructing the pride at feeding time "hey slow down guys, leave some for the hyenas!"

                                WSS

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