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  • Here is my dilemma:

    I would root for Carolina or Arizona over either Denver or New England.

    So....to me....whomever win the NFC, I come out a winner. Whomever wins the AFC, I come out a loser.

    What do I expect to happen? I expect Tom Brady.....fittingly....to send Peyton off to retirement.

    I expect Carolina to win......though actually I think I would prefer Arizona.

    Here, I go with WSS's theory: the longstanding team that has been around over the younger "expansion" franchise is favored.

    The Cardinals are one of only two original 1920 NFL teams still in existence. (the other: Bears...Packers came in in 1921, Giants in 1925). Panthers have only been around since 1995. Hell, even if you just count the Cards from the time they have been in Arizona....since 1988.....that version of them has been around longer than the Panthers.

    All told, the Cardinals have not won a title since 1947 (in Chicago). In all of American professional sports....only the Cubs have gone longer without winning a title. (the Indians one year behind with 1948).

  • T The Cysko Kid

    I saw Montana play but I was a kid then. I didnt appreciate his excellence.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I saw Montana play but I was a kid then. I didnt appreciate his excellence.

    I saw John Unitas play when I was a kid. I did appreciate his.....but I was also happy to see the Browns beat him.

    T 1 Reply

  • Bidwell oughta add negativity.

    And I can't stand Newton.

    And I love Bill because it's kind of a middle finger to the ghost of Art Modell.

    And even though beat Broncos broke our hearts I've never thought of them as shit eating scum bags like our neighbors im Western PA.

    🙂

    WSS

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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I think that Brady, as much as people hate him, has a much more legitimate claim to being the GOAT than manning does. He has a more legitimate claim, I think, than Joe Montana. I'd like to see him win that fifth super bowl to really cement his legacy. We don't have to worry about having our asses kicked by the patriots twice a season so I don't have any real hate for them.

    Well, you can watch Brady kick the Browns asses in Cleveland next year- I already checked the schedule.

    As much as I don't like the guy, he's definitely in the discussion as GOAT.

    @hoorta said:

    Well, you can watch Brady kick the Browns asses in Cleveland next year- I already checked the schedule.

    As much as I don't like the guy, he's definitely in the discussion as GOAT.

    Sounds like a good road trip candidate... nowhere to go, but up and we have tended to play NE tough...

    As for Brady... that chip on his shoulder must be the oldest one in sports... ever...

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @hoorta said:

    Well, you can watch Brady kick the Browns asses in Cleveland next year- I already checked the schedule.

    As much as I don't like the guy, he's definitely in the discussion as GOAT.

    Sounds like a good road trip candidate... nowhere to go, but up and we have tended to play NE tough...

    As for Brady... that chip on his shoulder must be the oldest one in sports... ever...

    @tour2ma said:

    Sounds like a good road trip candidate... nowhere to go, but up and we have tended to play NE tough...

    As for Brady... that chip on his shoulder must be the oldest one in sports... ever...

    He still wears T-Shirt with the #199 on it.

    Get the fuck over it already. Bart Starr was pick #200. Do you hear him still crying about it.....and Brady needs to win this one to match Starr's titles.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tour2ma said:

    Sounds like a good road trip candidate... nowhere to go, but up and we have tended to play NE tough...

    As for Brady... that chip on his shoulder must be the oldest one in sports... ever...

    He still wears T-Shirt with the #199 on it.

    Get the fuck over it already. Bart Starr was pick #200. Do you hear him still crying about it.....and Brady needs to win this one to match Starr's titles.

    @the-gipper said:

    He still wears T-Shirt with the #199 on it.

    Get the fuck over it already. Bart Starr was pick #200. Do you hear him still crying about it.....and Brady needs to win this one to match Starr's titles.

    Why should he? It motivates him just like the hate of everyone that freely spews it motivates him and it's paying off for him in spades. I think he's correct in using whatever it takes for him to keep his edge.
    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • T The Cysko Kid

    @the-gipper said:

    He still wears T-Shirt with the #199 on it.

    Get the fuck over it already. Bart Starr was pick #200. Do you hear him still crying about it.....and Brady needs to win this one to match Starr's titles.

    Why should he? It motivates him just like the hate of everyone that freely spews it motivates him and it's paying off for him in spades. I think he's correct in using whatever it takes for him to keep his edge.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Why should he? It motivates him just like the hate of everyone that freely spews it motivates him and it's paying off for him in spades. I think he's correct in using whatever it takes for him to keep his edge.

    Fine. If he has so many hangups about that shit...and needs that kind of motivation....they he wouldn't mind if I fuck his wife, would he?

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I saw Montana play but I was a kid then. I didnt appreciate his excellence.

    I saw John Unitas play when I was a kid. I did appreciate his.....but I was also happy to see the Browns beat him.

    @the-gipper said:

    I saw John Unitas play when I was a kid. I did appreciate his.....but I was also happy to see the Browns beat him.

    Damn I'm gettin' old. One of my best friends (my age) in college played with Johnny U and Earl Morrall, who took over for the injured U-man and won the '71 Superbowl

  • T TexasAg1969

    @the-gipper said:

    I saw John Unitas play when I was a kid. I did appreciate his.....but I was also happy to see the Browns beat him.

    Damn I'm gettin' old. One of my best friends (my age) in college played with Johnny U and Earl Morrall, who took over for the injured U-man and won the '71 Superbowl

    @texasag1969 said:

    Damn I'm gettin' old. One of my best friends (my age) in college played with Johnny U and Earl Morrall, who took over for the injured U-man and won the '71 Superbowl

    I'm too lazy to look it up, but wasn't Earl Morrall famous for sporting that flat-top haircut?

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    @texasag1969 said:

    Damn I'm gettin' old. One of my best friends (my age) in college played with Johnny U and Earl Morrall, who took over for the injured U-man and won the '71 Superbowl

    I'm too lazy to look it up, but wasn't Earl Morrall famous for sporting that flat-top haircut?

    @canton-dawg said:

    I'm too lazy to look it up, but wasn't Earl Morrall famous for sporting that flat-top haircut?

    Both he and Unitas had them.

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    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • Thanks Gip, my feeble mind totally forgot about Johnny U having a flat top as well.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney

  • Here's some useless knowledge. . .

    Of the 4 remaining QB's, 3 of them were taken as the first overall pick in the draft.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • T The Cysko Kid

    If New England doesn't win I hope it's the Panthers that do. To be frank I'm just glad to be rid of the seahawks and steelers. Those were two teams I absolutely couldn't stomach winning again. Both have absolutely insufferable fanbases and I take no pity on the Ohioans that frontrun for the Steelers.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    If New England doesn't win I hope it's the Panthers that do. To be frank I'm just glad to be rid of the seahawks and steelers. Those were two teams I absolutely couldn't stomach winning again. Both have absolutely insufferable fanbases and I take no pity on the Ohioans that frontrun for the Steelers.

    I hate Seattle only because of Pete Carroll, and how he just walked away from USC in tough times.

    The Seahawk fan base isn't really that bad- they actually admire us Browns fans (at least on the forum http://www.seahawks.net).

    Karlis Missed

  • I don't have any angst towards Carolina or Arizona. I am a big fan of Larry Fitzgerald so I lean towards the Cardinals.

    AFC-wise, I'm still not happy about our blown games against the Broncos. Like others wrote, I have nothing against Peyton, but when he put that Broncos jersey on, sorry I can't get behind that at all. Tough to even fathom rooting for NE, but that's where I am now.

    Karlis Missed
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @canton-dawg said:

    I'm too lazy to look it up, but wasn't Earl Morrall famous for sporting that flat-top haircut?

    Both he and Unitas had them.

    johnnyunitas.jpg1398454350004-AP-Obit-Morrall-Football-0

    @the-gipper said:

    Both he and Unitas had them.

    Hell so did I back then... or at least a close cousin of the flattop... It was called a butch or a "Crew Cut".

    Even used a stick of "Butch Wax"... a specialty, ethnic product for white kids...

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6d/ac/69/6dac69a39fbcd1d416bf69a1c83c2c38.jpg[/b]

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    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    Here's some useless knowledge. . .

    Of the 4 remaining QB's, 3 of them were taken as the first overall pick in the draft.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Here's some useless knowledge. . .

    Of the 4 remaining QB's, 3 of them were taken as the first overall pick in the draft.

    I should have used that in my trivia quiz. I didn't......but thanks for the data.

    And it is not useless.....it is a very sharp illustration of the need to get a franchise QB....and that often that #1 pick is the place....if the right guy is there.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @the-gipper said:

    Both he and Unitas had them.

    Hell so did I back then... or at least a close cousin of the flattop... It was called a butch or a "Crew Cut".

    Even used a stick of "Butch Wax"... a specialty, ethnic product for white kids...

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6d/ac/69/6dac69a39fbcd1d416bf69a1c83c2c38.jpg[/b]

    @tour2ma said:

    Hell so did I back then... or at least a close cousin of the flattop... It was called a butch or a "Crew Cut".

    Even used a stick of "Butch Wax"... a specialty, ethnic product for white kids...

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6d/ac/69/6dac69a39fbcd1d416bf69a1c83c2c38.jpg[/b]

    Yep.....been there, done that in like grade school.

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