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  • This is BULLSHIT. I felt ok about the hue hire to start with, but him bringing back a RETREAD is BULLSHIT. I see some of you guys are trying to cherry pick various aspects of Horton's defense from his first go round with us. That's misleading at best, downright dishonesty at worst. You can cherry pick other stats from that defense that look like shit. But regardless of what stats one looks at, I watched that team. So did you guys. And at NO TIME did I feel the scheme was excellent or we had a defense to respect when it mattered. This idiot has been with like 4 different teams over the past 4-5 years.....RETREAD.

    So this isn't a good sign. Anyone spinning it as a positive is FOS imo. Also, and this is a more minor point, but is Hue trying to run a football team or the rainbow coalition? I don't mean the color of the hires(I could care less about color)....what I mean is with seemingly every hire and potential hire there are stories about how him and the browns are working with this organization(likely a shakedown organization) to promote coaches of color and probably global warming and land mine safety and god knows what else. This is not the reason I hate the hire of Horton(the fact that he is an uninspiring retread hire is the reason), but it certainly doesnt help....

    @tacosman said:

    This is BULLSHIT. I felt ok about the hue hire to start with, but him bringing back a RETREAD is BULLSHIT. I see some of you guys are trying to cherry pick various aspects of Horton's defense from his first go round with us. That's misleading at best, downright dishonesty at worst. You can cherry pick other stats from that defense that look like shit. But regardless of what stats one looks at, I watched that team. So did you guys. And at NO TIME did I feel the scheme was excellent or we had a defense to respect when it mattered. This idiot has been with like 4 different teams over the past 4-5 years.....RETREAD.

    So this isn't a good sign. Anyone spinning it as a positive is FOS imo. Also, and this is a more minor point, but is Hue trying to run a football team or the rainbow coalition? I don't mean the color of the hires(I could care less about color)....what I mean is with seemingly every hire and potential hire there are stories about how him and the browns are working with this organization(likely a shakedown organization) to promote coaches of color and probably global warming and land mine safety and god knows what else. This is not the reason I hate the hire of Horton(the fact that he is an uninspiring retread hire is the reason), but it certainly doesnt help....

    Hey bright eyes....EVERY "experienced" Coach EVERWHERE is a retread! Lighten up Francis!

    If you're a Browns' Fan, just try supporting the Browns as a whole instead of bellyaching about everything.

    Mike

  • @tacosman said:

    This is BULLSHIT. I felt ok about the hue hire to start with, but him bringing back a RETREAD is BULLSHIT. I see some of you guys are trying to cherry pick various aspects of Horton's defense from his first go round with us. That's misleading at best, downright dishonesty at worst. You can cherry pick other stats from that defense that look like shit. But regardless of what stats one looks at, I watched that team. So did you guys. And at NO TIME did I feel the scheme was excellent or we had a defense to respect when it mattered. This idiot has been with like 4 different teams over the past 4-5 years.....RETREAD.

    So this isn't a good sign. Anyone spinning it as a positive is FOS imo. Also, and this is a more minor point, but is Hue trying to run a football team or the rainbow coalition? I don't mean the color of the hires(I could care less about color)....what I mean is with seemingly every hire and potential hire there are stories about how him and the browns are working with this organization(likely a shakedown organization) to promote coaches of color and probably global warming and land mine safety and god knows what else. This is not the reason I hate the hire of Horton(the fact that he is an uninspiring retread hire is the reason), but it certainly doesnt help....

    Hey bright eyes....EVERY "experienced" Coach EVERWHERE is a retread! Lighten up Francis!

    If you're a Browns' Fan, just try supporting the Browns as a whole instead of bellyaching about everything.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Hey bright eyes....EVERY "experienced" Coach EVERWHERE is a retread! Lighten up Francis!

    If you're a Browns' Fan, just try supporting the Browns as a whole instead of bellyaching about everything.

    Mike

    He's not a Browns fan....he's a Johnny Manziel fan who only started posting when his boyfriend became the starter. He'll be gone from here soon enough with most of the other faggy fanboys who are only here because Johnny dipshit got drafted by the Browns.

  • @alexmarvez

    Source tells @NFLonFOX that @Browns have hired ex- @Titans DBs coach Louie Cioffi for the same position. Cioffi was with CLE in 2013

  • @tour2ma said:

    Safe to say the honeymoon is over?

    yeah, it's time for Jackson to go. It really is. I mean how much more do we have to watch of this? Its' just evident this isn't going anywhere.

    @clevfan4life said:

    yeah, it's time for Jackson to go. It really is. I mean how much more do we have to watch of this? Its' just evident this isn't going anywhere.

    This post made me laugh out loud.

    To flush the flush would be novel, even for the Browns...

    They can claim they wanted Patricia the whole time, anyway...

  • @canton-mike said:

    Hey bright eyes....EVERY "experienced" Coach EVERWHERE is a retread! Lighten up Francis!

    If you're a Browns' Fan, just try supporting the Browns as a whole instead of bellyaching about everything.

    Mike

    He's not a Browns fan....he's a Johnny Manziel fan who only started posting when his boyfriend became the starter. He'll be gone from here soon enough with most of the other faggy fanboys who are only here because Johnny dipshit got drafted by the Browns.

    @mark-o said:

    He's not a Browns fan....he's a Johnny Manziel fan who only started posting when his boyfriend became the starter. He'll be gone from here soon enough with most of the other faggy fanboys who are only here because Johnny dipshit got drafted by the Browns.

    You have issues.

  • @canton-mike said:

    Hey bright eyes....EVERY "experienced" Coach EVERWHERE is a retread! Lighten up Francis!

    If you're a Browns' Fan, just try supporting the Browns as a whole instead of bellyaching about everything.

    Mike

    He's not a Browns fan....he's a Johnny Manziel fan who only started posting when his boyfriend became the starter. He'll be gone from here soon enough with most of the other faggy fanboys who are only here because Johnny dipshit got drafted by the Browns.

    @mark-o said:

    He's not a Browns fan....he's a Johnny Manziel fan who only started posting when his boyfriend became the starter. He'll be gone from here soon enough with most of the other faggy fanboys who are only here because Johnny dipshit got drafted by the Browns.

    @wargograw said:

    You have issues.

    Well, most of the Johnny Fan Club has already left the building. Mark's just stating the obvious.

    I'm sure assuming when we draft Goff a bunch of Cal fans will get on board.

  • @mark-o said:

    He's not a Browns fan....he's a Johnny Manziel fan who only started posting when his boyfriend became the starter. He'll be gone from here soon enough with most of the other faggy fanboys who are only here because Johnny dipshit got drafted by the Browns.

    @wargograw said:

    You have issues.

    Well, most of the Johnny Fan Club has already left the building. Mark's just stating the obvious.

    I'm sure assuming when we draft Goff a bunch of Cal fans will get on board.

    @hoorta said:

    Well, most of the Johnny Fan Club has already left the building. Mark's just stating the obvious.

    I'm sure assuming when we draft Goff a bunch of Cal fans will get on board.

    yes.

    i will say though throughout the whole manziel era in cleveland that the only 2 true manziel/A+M fans that have stuck it out through thick and thin are AG and wargo. gotta give them credit for having thicker skin than me, and that shows alot.

    hope they stick around no matter what happens with mr. manziel.

    if not i got their addresses so they'll be gettin some type of tee come august/sept bo matter what. and i'd miss them if they leave.

    hmmmm....tshirt design contest with horton jeers a jew, i mean hears a hoo...... will be priceless.

  • And the rest of the staff:

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-complete-offensive-special-teams-staffs/5e3f1d64-e1c9-4548-a96b-44e5e252aa7f

    Pep Hamilton (associate head coach-offense), Al Saunders (Sr. offensive assistant/wide receivers), Kirby Wilson (running backs/run game coordinator), Hal Hunter (offensive line), Mark Hudson (assistant offensive line), Greg Seamon (tight ends) and Bob Saunders (offensive quality control) will round out the offensive staff, while Shawn Mennenga (special teams assistant) and Stan Watson (special teams quality control) rejoin special teams coordinator Chris Tabor

  • And the rest of the staff:

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-complete-offensive-special-teams-staffs/5e3f1d64-e1c9-4548-a96b-44e5e252aa7f

    Pep Hamilton (associate head coach-offense), Al Saunders (Sr. offensive assistant/wide receivers), Kirby Wilson (running backs/run game coordinator), Hal Hunter (offensive line), Mark Hudson (assistant offensive line), Greg Seamon (tight ends) and Bob Saunders (offensive quality control) will round out the offensive staff, while Shawn Mennenga (special teams assistant) and Stan Watson (special teams quality control) rejoin special teams coordinator Chris Tabor

    @gftchris said:

    And the rest of the staff:

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-complete-offensive-special-teams-staffs/5e3f1d64-e1c9-4548-a96b-44e5e252aa7f

    Pep Hamilton (associate head coach-offense), Al Saunders (Sr. offensive assistant/wide receivers), Kirby Wilson (running backs/run game coordinator), Hal Hunter (offensive line), Mark Hudson (assistant offensive line), Greg Seamon (tight ends) and Bob Saunders (offensive quality control) will round out the offensive staff, while Shawn Mennenga (special teams assistant) and Stan Watson (special teams quality control) rejoin special teams coordinator Chris Tabor

    Sounds good, And I imagine Horton is pillaging the Tits for defensive guys.

    I am ready for training camp.

    Zombo

  • @gftchris said:

    And the rest of the staff:

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-complete-offensive-special-teams-staffs/5e3f1d64-e1c9-4548-a96b-44e5e252aa7f

    Pep Hamilton (associate head coach-offense), Al Saunders (Sr. offensive assistant/wide receivers), Kirby Wilson (running backs/run game coordinator), Hal Hunter (offensive line), Mark Hudson (assistant offensive line), Greg Seamon (tight ends) and Bob Saunders (offensive quality control) will round out the offensive staff, while Shawn Mennenga (special teams assistant) and Stan Watson (special teams quality control) rejoin special teams coordinator Chris Tabor

    Sounds good, And I imagine Horton is pillaging the Tits for defensive guys.

    I am ready for training camp.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Sounds good, And I imagine Horton is pillaging the Tits for defensive guys.

    I am ready for training camp.

    Zombo

    I'm excited for the offseason, and the pre-season and the season. I'm excited for a GM, I'm excited for free agency, I'm excited for the draft.

  • @gftchris said:

    And the rest of the staff:

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-complete-offensive-special-teams-staffs/5e3f1d64-e1c9-4548-a96b-44e5e252aa7f

    Pep Hamilton (associate head coach-offense), Al Saunders (Sr. offensive assistant/wide receivers), Kirby Wilson (running backs/run game coordinator), Hal Hunter (offensive line), Mark Hudson (assistant offensive line), Greg Seamon (tight ends) and Bob Saunders (offensive quality control) will round out the offensive staff, while Shawn Mennenga (special teams assistant) and Stan Watson (special teams quality control) rejoin special teams coordinator Chris Tabor

    Sounds good, And I imagine Horton is pillaging the Tits for defensive guys.

    I am ready for training camp.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Sounds good, And I imagine Horton is pillaging the Tits for defensive guys.

    I am ready for training camp.

    Zombo

    Word is we already hired Louie Cioffi as DBs coach from the Titans (was also here in 2013) and Nick Eason DL coach (also here in 2013, but in lesser capacity I think)

  • Zombo said:

    Sounds good, And I imagine Horton is pillaging the Tits for defensive guys.

    I am ready for training camp.

    Zombo

    Word is we already hired Louie Cioffi as DBs coach from the Titans (was also here in 2013) and Nick Eason DL coach (also here in 2013, but in lesser capacity I think)

    @bbedward said:

    Word is we already hired Louie Cioffi as DBs coach from the Titans (was also here in 2013) and Nick Eason DL coach (also here in 2013, but in lesser capacity I think)

    He played for us.

    120971569-cleveland-browns-lineman-nick-

  • @canton-mike said:

    Hey bright eyes....EVERY "experienced" Coach EVERWHERE is a retread! Lighten up Francis!

    If you're a Browns' Fan, just try supporting the Browns as a whole instead of bellyaching about everything.

    Mike

    He's not a Browns fan....he's a Johnny Manziel fan who only started posting when his boyfriend became the starter. He'll be gone from here soon enough with most of the other faggy fanboys who are only here because Johnny dipshit got drafted by the Browns.

    @mark-o said:

    He's not a Browns fan....he's a Johnny Manziel fan who only started posting when his boyfriend became the starter. He'll be gone from here soon enough with most of the other faggy fanboys who are only here because Johnny dipshit got drafted by the Browns.

    I was *never* a JM fan. I've always been pretty outspoken about the fact that I don't think Manziel has what it takes to be a good nfl qb. Perhaps you are confusing me with someone else.....btw, how is your boy pettine doing? You predicted all of the last season that he would be back this year. ooooops. And yeah, I am going to keep reminding you of that........

  • @mark-o said:

    He's not a Browns fan....he's a Johnny Manziel fan who only started posting when his boyfriend became the starter. He'll be gone from here soon enough with most of the other faggy fanboys who are only here because Johnny dipshit got drafted by the Browns.

    I was *never* a JM fan. I've always been pretty outspoken about the fact that I don't think Manziel has what it takes to be a good nfl qb. Perhaps you are confusing me with someone else.....btw, how is your boy pettine doing? You predicted all of the last season that he would be back this year. ooooops. And yeah, I am going to keep reminding you of that........

    @tacosman said:

    I was *never* a JM fan.

    Really?! Wow, you kept that well hidden!

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Albert Breer reporting. . .

    So again, these Browns staff hires are done: Ray Horton, Pep Hamilton, Al Saunders, Kirby Wilson and Hal Hunter. Impressive haul for Hue.

    I haven't seen Hal Hunter, is that as OL coach?

    @bbedward said:

    I haven't seen Hal Hunter, is that as OL coach?

    Hal Hunter coached the Browns Oline when Bud Carson was HC.

  • @bbedward said:

    I haven't seen Hal Hunter, is that as OL coach?

    Hal Hunter coached the Browns Oline when Bud Carson was HC.

    @nickers said:

    Hal Hunter coached the Browns Oline when Bud Carson was HC.

    Yep, this is his son.

    And Bob Saunders is Al's son.

    Zombo

  • @nickers said:

    Hal Hunter coached the Browns Oline when Bud Carson was HC.

    Yep, this is his son.

    And Bob Saunders is Al's son.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Yep, this is his son.

    And Bob Saunders is Al's son.

    Zombo

    Thanks Z.. I was gonna say the son of a bitch has to be 100 years old.. He looks just like his dad , too.

  • Wooten Say Tit's "insulted" Ray Horton

    LOL.. really?.. I cant believe we hired this idiot again..


    http://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nfl/titans/2016/01/17/ray-horton-insulted-titans-join-browns/78937956/

  • @tacosman said:

    I was *never* a JM fan.

    Really?! Wow, you kept that well hidden!

    @gftchris said:

    Really?! Wow, you kept that well hidden!

    Actually not really....every third post even before he started some games I would comment on how I don't think he has an nfl skill set. Perhaps you just chose not to read it.

    I have been right on every single prognostication I've made in here.....