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  • @shepwrite said:

    I get it. Mangini would like to get something not just right but VERY right in 2009, and defense is his wheelhouse. Adding some familiar veterans and then devoting the draft to that side of the ball is a distinct possibility... assuming Lewis and Edwards both stay and raise their play.

    Even if they don't it may still be a defense heavy draft.

    If Gini feels it can be fixed to a good level, a good D at least keeps you in games.

    Even a bad O can score 16 points most weeks....a TD and 3 fieldgoals

    @ballpeen said:

    Even if they don't it may still be a defense heavy draft.

    If Gini feels it can be fixed to a good level, a good D at least keeps you in games.

    Even a bad O can score 16 points most weeks....a TD and 3 fieldgoals

    We didn't seem to have the ability last 5 or 6 games of 08

  • Louis Delmas would be a steal at #36, although I'd still prefer OC Eric Wood at #50.

    -Al

  • @ballpeen said:

    Even if they don't it may still be a defense heavy draft.

    If Gini feels it can be fixed to a good level, a good D at least keeps you in games.

    Even a bad O can score 16 points most weeks....a TD and 3 fieldgoals

    We didn't seem to have the ability last 5 or 6 games of 08

    @neweradawg said:

    We didn't seem to have the ability last 5 or 6 games of 08

    I understand that.

    You seem like a knowledgeable fan....I would think you know it is easier to build a D than it is a O.

    If one unit could be great, I think most coaches would prefer a D that fits that description, only from the standpoint it keeps you in most games.

    I think most coaches only ask for a chance in the last 5 minutes.

  • @ballpeen said:

    Even if they don't it may still be a defense heavy draft.

    If Gini feels it can be fixed to a good level, a good D at least keeps you in games.

    Even a bad O can score 16 points most weeks....a TD and 3 fieldgoals

    We didn't seem to have the ability last 5 or 6 games of 08

    @neweradawg said:

    We didn't seem to have the ability last 5 or 6 games of 08

    And for the most of those last games CLE had no healthy QB. When you got to trot out Dorsey and a recently signed Gradkowski, you are in for some scoring woes.

  • Asher Allen at #50?!! Wow....I like the kid but I think that is a bit of a reach.....No, I think that is a huge reach.

    If we pick him at #50 I'll go run out in the middle of a busy street on day 1.

    He may go in the third round but it's possible he'd be there for pick #104 for the Browns.

  • Did you guys know that Brandon Mcdonald has 7 interceptions in his first 17 starts?

    Im sick of B-mac being written off, he's better than wright in my opinion

    Check this thread out: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php...pic=1596&hl=

  • @neweradawg said:

    We didn't seem to have the ability last 5 or 6 games of 08

    I understand that.

    You seem like a knowledgeable fan....I would think you know it is easier to build a D than it is a O.

    If one unit could be great, I think most coaches would prefer a D that fits that description, only from the standpoint it keeps you in most games.

    I think most coaches only ask for a chance in the last 5 minutes.

    @ballpeen said:

    I understand that.

    You seem like a knowledgeable fan....I would think you know it is easier to build a D than it is a O.

    If one unit could be great, I think most coaches would prefer a D that fits that description, only from the standpoint it keeps you in most games.

    I think most coaches only ask for a chance in the last 5 minutes.

    I really don't think we are in any disagreement reguarding the need for a strong D . In our division it is a must . But if it was really easy to build a Defense we sure the hell missed the boat so far . lol

  • Did you guys know that Brandon Mcdonald has 7 interceptions in his first 17 starts?

    Im sick of B-mac being written off, he's better than wright in my opinion

    Check this thread out: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php...pic=1596&hl=

    @playgroundlegend said:

    Did you guys know that Brandon Mcdonald has 7 interceptions in his first 17 starts?

    Im sick of B-mac being written off, he's better than wright in my opinion

    Check this thread out: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php...pic=1596&hl=

    I wouldn't go as far as saying B-Mac is better the Wright (when you look at times even targeted, you see why Wright's INT total is lower and B-Mac's is higher). But B-Mac should not be written off. He was made to start a lot sooner than he should have been and most CBs drafted where he was usually do, with success.

  • @ballpeen said:

    I understand that.

    You seem like a knowledgeable fan....I would think you know it is easier to build a D than it is a O.

    If one unit could be great, I think most coaches would prefer a D that fits that description, only from the standpoint it keeps you in most games.

    I think most coaches only ask for a chance in the last 5 minutes.

    I really don't think we are in any disagreement reguarding the need for a strong D . In our division it is a must . But if it was really easy to build a Defense we sure the hell missed the boat so far . lol

    @neweradawg said:

    I really don't think we are in any disagreement reguarding the need for a strong D . In our division it is a must . But if it was really easy to build a Defense we sure the hell missed the boat so far . lol

    No disagreement.

    Not saying it is easy....just easier. O requires more of a plan and timing. D requires that, but not as much, and on D, a player or unit can get by on desire more easily. A defensive player can will himself into knocking the snot out of the next person to have the ball easier than a qb can will himself into completing his next pass.

  • Did you guys know that Brandon Mcdonald has 7 interceptions in his first 17 starts?

    Im sick of B-mac being written off, he's better than wright in my opinion

    Check this thread out: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php...pic=1596&hl=

    @playgroundlegend said:

    Did you guys know that Brandon Mcdonald has 7 interceptions in his first 17 starts?

    Im sick of B-mac being written off, he's better than wright in my opinion

    Check this thread out: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php...pic=1596&hl=

    When people talk about drafting DB's, especially later round DB's, that doesn't mean they are writing off anyone.

    Teams play nickle and Dime defenses so often that depth is a huge concern.