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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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      I think we all know where the Democrats want to go on gun control.

      Hillary and Sanders are scrambling to get on the same page so they can sue gun manufacturers for crimes people commit with guns.

      WSS

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      • C calfoxwc

        You don't have to make stuff up about the dems' dirtiest, most corrupt president

        in our history. Thanks for nothing, obamao voters. Btw, you ever get your free

        ride he was promising? Paid school loans? Free health insurance for all?

        Bringing us all together? Most transparent regime ever?

        All they have to do is selectively corrupt the gun background check db...and then

        refuse to fix it.

        So, here ya go:

        No Way Out: Feds Stop Processing NICS Denial Appeals
        NEWS
        No Way Out: Feds Stop Processing NICS Denial Appeals
        As much as the Brady Campaign, Bloomberg’s Everytown, and the Obama administration contend that submitting oneself to the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) is a fast and simple process that does not significantly burden lawful firearms transferees, the fact is that for many of Americans that simply isn’t true. Each year thousands of Americans are wrongfully denied their Second Amendment rights when NICS incorrectly determines that they are prohibited from firearm ownership. Compounding this grave injustice, this week the FBI made public that they have stopped processing NICS denial appeals.
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        @calfoxwc said:

        You don't have to make stuff up about the dems' dirtiest, most corrupt president

        in our history. Thanks for nothing, obamao voters. Btw, you ever get your free

        ride he was promising? Paid school loans? Free health insurance for all?

        Bringing us all together? Most transparent regime ever?

        All they have to do is selectively corrupt the gun background check db...and then

        refuse to fix it.

        So, here ya go:

        No Way Out: Feds Stop Processing NICS Denial Appeals
        NEWS
        No Way Out: Feds Stop Processing NICS Denial Appeals
        As much as the Brady Campaign, Bloomberg’s Everytown, and the Obama administration contend that submitting oneself to the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) is a fast and simple process that does not significantly burden lawful firearms transferees, the fact is that for many of Americans that simply isn’t true. Each year thousands of Americans are wrongfully denied their Second Amendment rights when NICS incorrectly determines that they are prohibited from firearm ownership. Compounding this grave injustice, this week the FBI made public that they have stopped processing NICS denial appeals.

        Completely untrue but keep posting.

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          Completely untrue that what I posted was untrue, but keep saying my posts are.

          They are not. The fact you don't like them is a good thing.

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            Completely untrue that what I posted was untrue, but keep saying my posts are.

            They are not. The fact you don't like them is a good thing.

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            B BaconHound wrote on last edited by BaconHound
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            @calfoxwc said:

            Completely untrue that what I posted was untrue, but keep saying my posts are.

            They are not. The fact you don't like them is a good thing.

            I work in an area of government where handguns are registered and the FBI are processing NICS denial appeals. There may be a greater lag time as there was for passport applications when the Bush administration created the Homeland Security Department and then passed the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative. When people freak out and flood the system work processes have to change.

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160122/no-way-out-feds-stop-processing-nics-denial-appeals

              http://www.usacarry.com/forums/general-firearm-discussion/54131-no-way-out-feds-stop-processing-nics-denial-appeals.html

              Now, how long that goes on, is the question. A temporary suspension because they transferred duties from

              appeals reviews to the initial background check system is a bit understandable....

              except that the background check system denies 2nd Amendment rights to innocent Americans.

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                https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160122/no-way-out-feds-stop-processing-nics-denial-appeals

                http://www.usacarry.com/forums/general-firearm-discussion/54131-no-way-out-feds-stop-processing-nics-denial-appeals.html

                Now, how long that goes on, is the question. A temporary suspension because they transferred duties from

                appeals reviews to the initial background check system is a bit understandable....

                except that the background check system denies 2nd Amendment rights to innocent Americans.

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                B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                @calfoxwc said:

                https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160122/no-way-out-feds-stop-processing-nics-denial-appeals

                http://www.usacarry.com/forums/general-firearm-discussion/54131-no-way-out-feds-stop-processing-nics-denial-appeals.html

                Now, how long that goes on, is the question. A temporary suspension because they transferred duties from

                appeals reviews to the initial background check system is a bit understandable....

                except that the background check system denies 2nd Amendment rights to innocent Americans.

                Again temporary suspension, back log, call it what you want the FBI will still perform the appeals in time. No one's 2nd Amendment rights are being denied. The appeals process will still continue and if the claim is unfounded the sale will proceed. If people who want to purchase implements that can be used to kill other people there has to be protocols in place to make sure individuals are properly vetted. If there is no issue they will be allowed to own said implement. It's not rocket science. Is the process slower now that many more people are buying guns, absolutely. If you want to support adding more government jobs to handle the process I'm with you. But the fact remains running background checks is a good policy that when run efficiently may make someone's life a bit more tedious but that is a very small price to pay, unless of course you want to further a political agenda.

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                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                  Hey, like I've said before, I love background checks, and I have

                  passed them faster than the last gun biz dealer had seen often.

                  And, btw, just fyi for anybody who thinks it is interesting,

                  I have a ccw, and since surgery on my new knee, I have never gotten my firearm out

                  of lock up, even at night. That will change soon.

                  ...was on two types of pain pills I rarely take now. That's just my own principle.

                  we don't know if it's temp...or Obamao uses it as an excuse to screw with people over purchases.

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                    Hey, like I've said before, I love background checks, and I have

                    passed them faster than the last gun biz dealer had seen often.

                    And, btw, just fyi for anybody who thinks it is interesting,

                    I have a ccw, and since surgery on my new knee, I have never gotten my firearm out

                    of lock up, even at night. That will change soon.

                    ...was on two types of pain pills I rarely take now. That's just my own principle.

                    we don't know if it's temp...or Obamao uses it as an excuse to screw with people over purchases.

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                    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                    @calfoxwc said:

                    I have a ccw, and since surgery on my new knee, I have never gotten my firearm out

                    of lock up, even at night. That will change soon.

                    ...was on two types of pain pills I rarely take now. That's just my own principle.

                    Good principle.

                    I'm taking the class March 12th for my ccw with my G19. Would never carry it if I was under the influence of anything.

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                      Hey, like I've said before, I love background checks, and I have

                      passed them faster than the last gun biz dealer had seen often.

                      And, btw, just fyi for anybody who thinks it is interesting,

                      I have a ccw, and since surgery on my new knee, I have never gotten my firearm out

                      of lock up, even at night. That will change soon.

                      ...was on two types of pain pills I rarely take now. That's just my own principle.

                      we don't know if it's temp...or Obamao uses it as an excuse to screw with people over purchases.

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                      B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      Hey, like I've said before, I love background checks, and I have

                      passed them faster than the last gun biz dealer had seen often.

                      And, btw, just fyi for anybody who thinks it is interesting,

                      I have a ccw, and since surgery on my new knee, I have never gotten my firearm out

                      of lock up, even at night. That will change soon.

                      ...was on two types of pain pills I rarely take now. That's just my own principle.

                      we don't know if it's temp...or Obamao uses it as an excuse to screw with people over purchases.

                      The vast majority of gun owners that I come in contact with are very responsible people. That being said gun sales are going through the roof, this is a temporary issue.

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                      • W Westside Steve

                        I think we all know where the Democrats want to go on gun control.

                        Hillary and Sanders are scrambling to get on the same page so they can sue gun manufacturers for crimes people commit with guns.

                        WSS

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        @westside-steve said:

                        I think we all know where the Democrats want to go on gun control.

                        Agree. Hillary and Bernie both seem to want to go to no-guns on the streets.

                        Hillary and Sanders are scrambling to get on the same page so they can sue gun manufacturers for crimes people commit with guns.

                        Disagree with prosecuting gun manufacturers or retailers. As long as they fulfil the requirements regarding legal checks, they're golden. It's the legal checks that are the problem.

                        WSS

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                          Well agree or not, right or wrong that's the platform.

                          WSS

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                            Well agree or not, right or wrong that's the platform.

                            WSS

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                            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                            @westside-steve said:

                            Well agree or not, right or wrong that's the platform.

                            WSS

                            Given the choice of a complete gun embargo or guns for everyone, I'd prefer the former. I'm sure there's a sensible way to approach a middle ground though.

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                              @westside-steve said:

                              Well agree or not, right or wrong that's the platform.

                              WSS

                              Given the choice of a complete gun embargo or guns for everyone, I'd prefer the former. I'm sure there's a sensible way to approach a middle ground though.

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                              @gftchris said:

                              Given the choice of a complete gun embargo or guns for everyone, I'd prefer the former. I'm sure there's a sensible way to approach a middle ground though.

                              Well I think we all know where the Democrats want to go on that issue, I was just talking about Hillary and Bernie coming together on suing the gun manufacturers for people who commit crimes with guns. I thought that was pretty ridiculous but... that's what happens when you let bleary-eyed American leftists meld with opportunistic trial lawyers.

                              😉

                              WSS

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                                @gftchris said:

                                Given the choice of a complete gun embargo or guns for everyone, I'd prefer the former. I'm sure there's a sensible way to approach a middle ground though.

                                Well I think we all know where the Democrats want to go on that issue, I was just talking about Hillary and Bernie coming together on suing the gun manufacturers for people who commit crimes with guns. I thought that was pretty ridiculous but... that's what happens when you let bleary-eyed American leftists meld with opportunistic trial lawyers.

                                😉

                                WSS

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                                @westside-steve said:

                                Well I think we all know where the Democrats want to go on that issue, I was just talking about Hillary and Bernie coming together on suing the gun manufacturers for people who commit crimes with guns. I thought that was pretty ridiculous but... that's what happens when you let bleary-eyed American leftists meld with opportunistic trial lawyers.

                                😉

                                WSS

                                I think you'd be surprised where Democrats want to. There is no disarming America, that genie can't be put back in the bottle. Now registration seems like a fair strategy.

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  Well I think we all know where the Democrats want to go on that issue, I was just talking about Hillary and Bernie coming together on suing the gun manufacturers for people who commit crimes with guns. I thought that was pretty ridiculous but... that's what happens when you let bleary-eyed American leftists meld with opportunistic trial lawyers.

                                  😉

                                  WSS

                                  I think you'd be surprised where Democrats want to. There is no disarming America, that genie can't be put back in the bottle. Now registration seems like a fair strategy.

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                                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                  @baconhound said:

                                  I think you'd be surprised where Democrats want to. There is no disarming America, that genie can't be put back in the bottle. Now registration seems like a fair strategy.

                                  Actually I think a lot of voters would be for a total gun ban. That's not to say it's achievable, but people would be for it.

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                                    @baconhound said:

                                    I think you'd be surprised where Democrats want to. There is no disarming America, that genie can't be put back in the bottle. Now registration seems like a fair strategy.

                                    Actually I think a lot of voters would be for a total gun ban. That's not to say it's achievable, but people would be for it.

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                                    @gftchris said:

                                    Actually I think a lot of voters would be for a total gun ban. That's not to say it's achievable, but people would be for it.

                                    I have no doubt that's true.

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                                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                      Hell they don't have a majority of people who want to ban "assault weapons" (a misused term). So I doubt there is a large voting block who want to ban them all.

                                      http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/now-oppose-assault-weapons-ban-doubts-stopping-lone/story?id=35778846

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                                        @baconhound said:

                                        I think you'd be surprised where Democrats want to. There is no disarming America, that genie can't be put back in the bottle. Now registration seems like a fair strategy.

                                        Actually I think a lot of voters would be for a total gun ban. That's not to say it's achievable, but people would be for it.

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                                        @gftchris said:

                                        Actually I think a lot of voters would be for a total gun ban. That's not to say it's achievable, but people would be for it.

                                        A lot of voters will be for Trump, maybe democracy doesn't work 🙂

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                                          @gftchris said:

                                          Actually I think a lot of voters would be for a total gun ban. That's not to say it's achievable, but people would be for it.

                                          A lot of voters will be for Trump, maybe democracy doesn't work 🙂

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                                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                          @baconhound said:

                                          A lot of voters will be for Trump, maybe democracy doesn't work 🙂

                                          A test on voter competency would result in a much more sensible debate. If you don't understand rudimentary economics, geo-politics, science, or whatever, you don't get to vote. But that'll not fly in any country, especially the US.

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