Jonathan Paul Manziel
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JM's future staring him in the face.
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Damn... looks like Vince is prepping for a comeback... as an OT...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Him and Jamarcus must train together.
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Damn... looks like Vince is prepping for a comeback... as an OT...
Is this Vince Young? Never knew he got thrown in prison.
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Is this Vince Young? Never knew he got thrown in prison.
Arrested today.
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Wow...
Vince was drafted in 2006...
Career salary + endorsements totaled ~$64MM...
Filed for bankruptcy in Jan., 2014...
Liabilities included a $1.9MM payday loan...
All per wiki...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Wow...
Vince was drafted in 2006...
Career salary + endorsements totaled ~$64MM...
Filed for bankruptcy in Jan., 2014...
Liabilities included a $1.9MM payday loan...
All per wiki...
No idea how these guys can blow through money like that. He's gotten a lot of bad advice in his day (or lack of advice)Wow...
Vince was drafted in 2006...
Career salary + endorsements totaled ~$64MM...
Filed for bankruptcy in Jan., 2014...
Liabilities included a $1.9MM payday loan...
All per wiki...
You'd think he'd have an advisor to say "shits gonna hit the fan unless you stop"
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When this thread reaches 30 pages, will our long national nightmare be over?
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Found his draft profile from 2014 (via NFL.com)
Pre-draft Johnny Manziel and 2015 Johnny Manziel are pretty damn close, as far as I could tell.
He had 2 good deep throws to Travis Benjamin this year against the Titans and people were ready to anoint him the savior, defending him is really grasping at straws at this point.
Maybe you can write an article on how specifically 2015 Johnny improved over 2014 Johnny. Because I didn't really see any significant improvements...and there was an awful he needed to improve on.
You are literally the only person still saying this. I could write it if I had time, but hard to see the point when there isn't a large beckoning for something like that, because it's widely accepted.
"This" refers to the notion that 2015 johnny didn't improve over 2014.
You are literally the only person still saying this. <snip> it's widely accepted.
The problem with JF is that the next progression he goes through in which he chooses the best option.. will be his first. I don't care if he "wants to" improve or not.. the reality is that he hasn't improved, isn't improving currently, and isn't putting in the work.
This is a very stupid thread. Please close it, mods.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
I did say I was the only person who was watching if it was widely accepted.
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Johnny caught the AFC Championship yesterday in true Johnny fashion:
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/johnny-manziel-partied-at-bar-afc-championship/290403
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"This" refers to the notion that 2015 johnny didn't improve over 2014.
You are literally the only person still saying this. <snip> it's widely accepted.
The problem with JF is that the next progression he goes through in which he chooses the best option.. will be his first. I don't care if he "wants to" improve or not.. the reality is that he hasn't improved, isn't improving currently, and isn't putting in the work.
This is a very stupid thread. Please close it, mods.
"This" refers to the notion that 2015 johnny didn't improve over 2014.
The problem with JF is that the next progression he goes through in which he chooses the best option.. will be his first. I don't care if he "wants to" improve or not.. the reality is that he hasn't improved, isn't improving currently, and isn't putting in the work.
This is a very stupid thread. Please close it, mods.
Apparently, you don't understand how progression works. When a team picks a quarterback, it should play said quarterback to be able to make definitive statements like you just made. But you can't. What you can do is point towards improvements he has made, but there is far from enough of a sample size to know one way or the other.
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When this thread reaches 30 pages, will our long national nightmare be over?
When this thread reaches 30 pages, will our long national nightmare be over?
We're going for 50, or until he gets sent packing.
Zombo said:
Johnny caught the AFC Championship yesterday in true Johnny fashion:
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/johnny-manziel-partied-at-bar-afc-championship/290403
Way to go JFF, he's gotta know this one just burned his last bridge with the Browns- and he obviously doesn't give a f**k what Sashi and Hue think of him. He's not only pissed on the Browns- he's pissed on us fans on top of it. I'm kinda mad about this one, FYI.
One can only hope this video get back to Jerrah- I'd say his odds of ever landing a gig with another NFL team just got flushed.
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I mean he's not doing anything wrong. He's been out boozing with members of the Mavs and Dallas' hockey team. Now he's out boozing at a bar watching the AFC championship. It's what he does he drinks. He doesn't do offseason workouts or any big time events - he just drinks a lot.
He doesn't give two fucks about Cleveland or the Browns, but who cares they are about to become his former team.
I'm just ready to pop the champagne when we draft a QB with real potential.
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Just send this dummy somewhere else.
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When this thread reaches 30 pages, will our long national nightmare be over?
We're going for 50, or until he gets sent packing.
Zombo said:
Johnny caught the AFC Championship yesterday in true Johnny fashion:
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/johnny-manziel-partied-at-bar-afc-championship/290403
Way to go JFF, he's gotta know this one just burned his last bridge with the Browns- and he obviously doesn't give a f**k what Sashi and Hue think of him. He's not only pissed on the Browns- he's pissed on us fans on top of it. I'm kinda mad about this one, FYI.
One can only hope this video get back to Jerrah- I'd say his odds of ever landing a gig with another NFL team just got flushed.
We're going for 50, or until he gets sent packing.
Way to go JFF, he's gotta know this one just burned his last bridge with the Browns- and he obviously doesn't give a f**k what Sashi and Hue think of him. He's not only pissed on the Browns- he's pissed on us fans on top of it. I'm kinda mad about this one, FYI.
One can only hope this video get back to Jerrah- I'd say his odds of ever landing a gig with another NFL team just got flushed.
That bridge has already been burned, Larry. If you listen to Sashi, Paul and Hue ... they're done.
He's gone, it's just interesting to watch how he spends his last couple months as a Brown.
Zombo
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I mean he's not doing anything wrong. He's been out boozing with members of the Mavs and Dallas' hockey team. Now he's out boozing at a bar watching the AFC championship. It's what he does he drinks. He doesn't do offseason workouts or any big time events - he just drinks a lot.
He doesn't give two fucks about Cleveland or the Browns, but who cares they are about to become his former team.
I'm just ready to pop the champagne when we draft a QB with real potential.
I mean he's not doing anything wrong. He's been out boozing with members of the Mavs and Dallas' hockey team. Now he's out boozing at a bar watching the AFC championship. It's what he does he drinks. He doesn't do offseason workouts or any big time events - he just drinks a lot.
He doesn't give two fucks about Cleveland or the Browns, but who cares they are about to become his former team.
I'm just ready to pop the champagne when we draft a QB with real potential.
I got a bottle of domestic Roderer Estate in the cellar- I think I'll pop it the day Manziel gets shipped off. (Roderer, Iron Horse, and Schramsberg are the best bubblys made in the USA) And since I'm on the topic- FWIW, the top French champagnes like Dom Perignon, Bollinger RD, Tattinger CdC, Krug are not worth the 3x premium over their one step down offerings. Even us hard core winos can't usually tell the difference. They're reserved for millionaires with money to burn.
But-but- but BB, nah- I just rechecked the latest video- he's drinking left handed, not even rehabbing that bad throwing elbow tossing 'em back. Damn, He'll probably go down to Social Security and apply for disability benefits.
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When this thread reaches 30 pages, will our long national nightmare be over?
We're going for 50, or until he gets sent packing.
Zombo said:
Johnny caught the AFC Championship yesterday in true Johnny fashion:
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/johnny-manziel-partied-at-bar-afc-championship/290403
Way to go JFF, he's gotta know this one just burned his last bridge with the Browns- and he obviously doesn't give a f**k what Sashi and Hue think of him. He's not only pissed on the Browns- he's pissed on us fans on top of it. I'm kinda mad about this one, FYI.
One can only hope this video get back to Jerrah- I'd say his odds of ever landing a gig with another NFL team just got flushed.
We're going for 50, or until he gets sent packing.
Way to go JFF, he's gotta know this one just burned his last bridge with the Browns- and he obviously doesn't give a f**k what Sashi and Hue think of him. He's not only pissed on the Browns- he's pissed on us fans on top of it. I'm kinda mad about this one, FYI.
One can only hope this video get back to Jerrah- I'd say his odds of ever landing a gig with another NFL team just got flushed.
This is seriously the dumbest one to get mad about.
The season is over, what the fuck is there to be mad about?
I get that he's an asshole and needs to be gone, but Jesus Christ - some of you guys are still living in the prohibition era.
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We're going for 50, or until he gets sent packing.
Way to go JFF, he's gotta know this one just burned his last bridge with the Browns- and he obviously doesn't give a f**k what Sashi and Hue think of him. He's not only pissed on the Browns- he's pissed on us fans on top of it. I'm kinda mad about this one, FYI.
One can only hope this video get back to Jerrah- I'd say his odds of ever landing a gig with another NFL team just got flushed.
This is seriously the dumbest one to get mad about.
The season is over, what the fuck is there to be mad about?
I get that he's an asshole and needs to be gone, but Jesus Christ - some of you guys are still living in the prohibition era.
This is seriously the dumbest one to get mad about.
The season is over, what the fuck is there to be mad about?
I get that he's an asshole and needs to be gone, but Jesus Christ - some of you guys are still living in the prohibition era.
LOL, Prohibition Era? Hey guy, AHEM- I'm now an Assistant Adjunct Professor of Enology helping teach a wine appreciation class at UD.
TC- I really don't care any more if Johnny drinks himself to death. He's living his life as he sees fit, so if that makes him happy- so be it. This latest video was just the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It's been two years coming, hanging onto hope Manziel could somehow turn into an asset for the Browns. It's over now- 100% done with the guy. Party on a-hole.
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This is seriously the dumbest one to get mad about.
The season is over, what the fuck is there to be mad about?
I get that he's an asshole and needs to be gone, but Jesus Christ - some of you guys are still living in the prohibition era.
LOL, Prohibition Era? Hey guy, AHEM- I'm now an Assistant Adjunct Professor of Enology helping teach a wine appreciation class at UD.
TC- I really don't care any more if Johnny drinks himself to death. He's living his life as he sees fit, so if that makes him happy- so be it. This latest video was just the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It's been two years coming, hanging onto hope Manziel could somehow turn into an asset for the Browns. It's over now- 100% done with the guy. Party on a-hole.
LOL, Prohibition Era? Hey guy, AHEM- I'm now an Assistant Adjunct Professor of Enology helping teach a wine appreciation class at UD.
TC- I really don't care any more if Johnny drinks himself to death. He's living his life as he sees fit, so if that makes him happy- so be it. This latest video was just the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It's been two years coming, hanging onto hope Manziel could somehow turn into an asset for the Browns. It's over now- 100% done with the guy. Party on a-hole.
I'm tellin' ya it's a JM/Jerrah conspiracy. I'm betting they have had some talks there in Dallas where Johnny was partying and Jerrah says, "Just keep drinking yourself out of Cleveland and I'll pick you up. Make sure it's good and public too."
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