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  • You can come by my place chris. I live about half hour from cedar point but I'm so far out in the sticks the stargazing is incredibly cLear and the sky is wide open. I have a pretty nice telescope as well.

    Well...I don't expect you'll take me up on that but if you're in the cedar point area the lake erie islands are right there and they're worth a day trip. Bonus: steve plays at put in bay a lot. As for nature, if you're in the Cleveland area you have the metroparks and the Cuyahoga valley but it's not, like, an American landmark or anything. Pretty nice though.

    I'd skip the rock hall but the pro football hall of fame is pretty close by in canton. An hour and a half from cedar point, perhaps.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • Cedar point is the shit though. If you go on a day when the crowds aren't too heavy you're going to have a great time. Make sure you ride the millenium force.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • Were I on my own I'd take you up on it for sure, but I'll be bringing a couple of friends at least. What telescope do you have? I'm relatively new to the field and just recently got my first proper pair of binoculars (and mount). Didn't want to go full on scope for hundreds of pounds if I wasn't sure I'd use it a lot. In London we have 'issues' with light pollution...

    The last 4 years or so a few friends and I have been visiting different theme parks, once per year. Started with the two biggest in the UK, then the two biggest non-disney ones in Europe (Port Aventura, Europa Park), but now we're short of ideas. It's either step down in size/quality and stay in Europe, or just fuck it and go big. My GF has always wanted to go to Cedar Point, so that ties in nicely with Cleveland football.

  • Cuyahoga valley looks very nice.

    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • A meade. It essentially looks just like this

    meade_ds114-763558.jpg

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • Nice. What kind of things do you normally look for?

    We went to an event at the royal observatory in Greenwich (as in Greenwich mean time) where they had a few scopes set up, and binoculars to hand out to everyone, plus looking through the great equatorial telescope - that thing is massive! 28-inch refractor, the scope is 28 feet long. Not as powerful as modern telescopes of course, but still pretty impressive engineering for 150 years ago.

    http://www.rmg.co.uk/see-do/we-recommend/attractions/great-equatorial-telescope

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    Cuyahoga valley looks very nice.

    @gftchris said:

    Cuyahoga valley looks very nice.

    The Cuyahoga Valley is a gem. It is one of only 59 National Parks in America.

    As for your itinerary, if you are coming into Detroit, there are a number of things you can do while you are here.

    Taking somewhat of a "Lake Erie" Circle tour would be very cool:

    Start in Detroit where the Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village complex, which are right next to each other

    http://www.thehenryford.org/museum/index.aspx

    http://www.thehenryford.org/village/index.aspx

    The Motown Museum

    https://www.motownmuseum.org/

    Then run over to Put-in-Bay and then Cedar Point.

    https://www.putinbay.com/

    https://www.cedarpoint.com/

    Then, of course Cleveland. Beyond the game, yes the RRHOF IS a must place to see, no doubt.

    http://www.rockhall.com/

    (if you want to spend more time here there are a dozen other sites to see: Severance Hall, the Museum of Art both world class venues) and the rest of University Circle

    http://www.universitycircle.org/

    I don't know if you consider this "astronomy" but the NASA Glenn Research Center is by the Cleveland Airport (yes, after John Glenn). It is probably one of the 5 most important locations in the country when dealing with space.

    http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/home/index.html

    The Cuyahoga Valley is a must place to see....particularly if you are into nature. You can see beaver ponds and everything. Great hiking.

    http://www.nps.gov/cuva/index.htm

    The Pro Football HOF is a must see for your group in Canton.

    http://www.profootballhof.com/

    Then roll up the coast of Lake Erie to Niagra.....you will even go through Buffalo on the way (and there are places to see there believe it or not). There are a number of things to see/do beyond the falls themselves in Niagra, including Old Fort Niagra...I was just there last summer.

    http://www.oldfortniagara.org/

    Then on to Toronto....world class city. We love to visit there.

    (I will let you do your own websearch Toronto)

    If you can get your flight into Detroit...and back out from Toronto that would be a way to do it. If not, then enjoy a drive through southern Ontario back to Detroit

    http://www.soto.on.ca/

    Hope this is helpful.

  • More on doing a Lake Erie Circle tour. I have not done this completely myself, but perhaps would like to some day.

    http://www.great-lakes.net/tourism/circletour/erie/

  • I would love to go to Cleveland and hang out with the freaks. See the town.

    https://www.facebook.com/Mike-Black-Sunday-Stories-1780988822148720/?ref=bookmarks
    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Im in cleveland day in and day out for work and you couldn't drag me there for anything extracurricular that wasn't sport related with one exception. I do love the museums and the university area. One of my favorite cleveland restraunts is in university and the other is on nearby coventry. As for the rest of cleveland...Fuck that place.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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  • Thanks gip. I had toyed with the idea of a lake erie tour, I think if I go from one end to the other (detroit to niagara), and have to drive back again, I might as well go the other way around.

    DieHardBrownsFanD The GipperT 2 Replies
  • gftChrisG gftChris

    Thanks gip. I had toyed with the idea of a lake erie tour, I think if I go from one end to the other (detroit to niagara), and have to drive back again, I might as well go the other way around.

    @gftchris said:

    Thanks gip. I had toyed with the idea of a lake erie tour, I think if I go from one end to the other (detroit to niagara), and have to drive back again, I might as well go the other way around.

    Lake Erie, where Perry defeated Barclay.

    http://www.nps.gov/pevi/learn/historyculture/battle_erie_detail.htm

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • T The Cysko Kid

    Im in cleveland day in and day out for work and you couldn't drag me there for anything extracurricular that wasn't sport related with one exception. I do love the museums and the university area. One of my favorite cleveland restraunts is in university and the other is on nearby coventry. As for the rest of cleveland...Fuck that place.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Im in cleveland day in and day out for work and you couldn't drag me there for anything extracurricular that wasn't sport related with one exception. I do love the museums and the university area. One of my favorite cleveland restraunts is in university and the other is on nearby coventry. As for the rest of cleveland...Fuck that place.

    Im considering my vacation in Aug. I get three weeks but wont take that much but have time to play with. Cleveland seems to be one of the stopping points.
    https://www.facebook.com/Mike-Black-Sunday-Stories-1780988822148720/?ref=bookmarks

  • Cuyahoga Valley National Park will disappoint you. It used to be a National Recreation area until some politician used his influence to have to become a National Park. Yosemite, Yellowstone, Sequoia, etc. are national parks. This is at best a State park. Some hiking trails, very small falls and hills. Mostly fields and trees. Not something I would travel far to see.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Cuyahoga Valley National Park will disappoint you. It used to be a National Recreation area until some politician used his influence to have to become a National Park. Yosemite, Yellowstone, Sequoia, etc. are national parks. This is at best a State park. Some hiking trails, very small falls and hills. Mostly fields and trees. Not something I would travel far to see.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Cuyahoga Valley National Park will disappoint you. It used to be a National Recreation area until some politician used his influence to have to become a National Park. Yosemite, Yellowstone, Sequoia, etc. are national parks. This is at best a State park. Some hiking trails, very small falls and hills. Mostly fields and trees. Not something I would travel far to see.

    I have been to 52 of the 59 National Parks.

    Of the 7 I have not been to, 5 are in Alaska accessible only by float plane. 1 is in Samoa. And there is a new one in California

    They come in all shapes and sizes and variances.

    There are 409 National Park Units. I have been to about 300 of those. I will be traveling to Alabama and Georgia to see 7 more before this month is up.

    Those too are of all types and sizes, ranging from a single house in a city to vast grasslands/deserts/mountains.

    I can tell you all about them if you like.

    I have gone to all kinds of lengths and distances to get to some of them....including a 70 mile one way trip in a catamaran, plus another in a boat that went only 8 mph that took 3 hours one way to make 22 miles.

    So I guess it is up to each individual to determine how far and to what lengths he would go to see them.

    For gft......he doesn't have to worry about that. To get to the CVNP he just has to drive down the road a bit. It is the only National Park that sits between two major metropolitan areas.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    Thanks gip. I had toyed with the idea of a lake erie tour, I think if I go from one end to the other (detroit to niagara), and have to drive back again, I might as well go the other way around.

    @gftchris said:

    Thanks gip. I had toyed with the idea of a lake erie tour, I think if I go from one end to the other (detroit to niagara), and have to drive back again, I might as well go the other way around.

    That would be OK too. You probably get better, cheaper flights from the UK to Toronto.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @gftchris said:

    Thanks gip. I had toyed with the idea of a lake erie tour, I think if I go from one end to the other (detroit to niagara), and have to drive back again, I might as well go the other way around.

    That would be OK too. You probably get better, cheaper flights from the UK to Toronto.

    @the-gipper said:

    That would be OK too. You probably get better, cheaper flights from the UK to Toronto.

    Potentially. At the moment, London to Detroit is around £450. Haven't checked Toronto.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    In checking I see that I still have quite a number of "battlefield" or at least "war related" National Parks units which I have not been to. Here is a list of some I would like to visit at some point:

    Revolutionary War related sites: Boston NHP (Bunker Hill, Old North Church). George Rogers Clark (Indiana)

    War of 1812: Horseshoe Bend (really a battle with Creek Indians, but 1812 related)

    Civil War: Pea Ridge, Ark. Andersonville Ga. Ft. Scott Kan., Peco, New Mex.

    Indian Wars: Fort Smith Ark. Sand Creek Massacre, Colo. Fort Larned, Kan., Big Hole Battlefield, Mont., Washita Battlefield, Okla., Knife River, North Dak.

    WWII: Tuskeegee Airmen Ala, Port Chicago Cal. Rosie the Riveter Cal., War in the Pacific, Guam.. Minidoka, Idaho (Japanese Internment camp)

    Cold War: Minuteman Missile NHP, South Dakota.

    I will be visiting the Big Hole battlefield in a couple of weeks....plus I may make a return trip to The Little Bighorn.

    @the-gipper said:

    In checking I see that I still have quite a number of "battlefield" or at least "war related" National Parks units which I have not been to. Here is a list of some I would like to visit at some point:

    Revolutionary War related sites: Boston NHP (Bunker Hill, Old North Church). George Rogers Clark (Indiana)

    War of 1812: Horseshoe Bend (really a battle with Creek Indians, but 1812 related)

    Going here in few weeks.

    Civil War: Pea Ridge, Ark. Andersonville Ga. Ft. Scott Kan., Peco, New Mex.

    Going to Andersonville as well at end of Feb.

    Indian Wars: Fort Smith Ark. Sand Creek Massacre, Colo. Fort Larned, Kan., Big Hole Battlefield, Mont., Washita Battlefield, Okla., Knife River, North Dak.

    I have since been to both the Big Hole and Washita.

    WWII: Tuskeegee Airmen Ala, Port Chicago Cal. Rosie the Riveter Cal., War in the Pacific, Guam.. Minidoka, Idaho (Japanese Internment camp)

    Also going to the Tuskeegee Airmen site.

    Cold War: Minuteman Missile NHP, South Dakota.

    I will be visiting the Big Hole battlefield in a couple of weeks....plus I may make a return trip to The Little Bighorn.

  • One PostO One Post

    I would love to go to Cleveland and hang out with the freaks. See the town.

    One Post From the Truth said:

    I would love to go to Cleveland and hang out with the freaks. See the town.

    I resemble that remark!

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @the-gipper said:

    That would be OK too. You probably get better, cheaper flights from the UK to Toronto.

    Potentially. At the moment, London to Detroit is around £450. Haven't checked Toronto.

    @gftchris said:

    Potentially. At the moment, London to Detroit is around £450. Haven't checked Toronto.

    That sounds pretty damned reasonable. Looking at the conversion, that is only about $650.00. Damned reasonable.

    For that I should go the other direction.

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