Camp Wentz- Starts here.
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Doesn't hurt that Stewart is running behind that "coached up" line.
I like Stewart but if he was running behind Cleveland line we'd all be yelling for him to gtfo after the season ended. Carolina's O line pushed the Seahawks D around. I didn't see a whole lot of fancy traps or tickling a guys balls out of the gap....they just rolled their sleeves up. And they didn't get intimidated either. Lotta things happened in that game that I've never seen happen to that Hawks team. The Panthers are special. If they keep that team together they could be SB contenders for years.
What is scary is if one of those Bama lineman falls deep into the 1st round, which they probably won't....but if the Panthers can get one of those guys as depth for Allen, cause he's probably got one more year left in him tops....
I like Stewart but if he was running behind Cleveland line we'd all be yelling for him to gtfo after the season ended.
Ummmm... no. Stewart is just the kind of hard-nosed RB CLE would love. He's better than either RB on our 2015 roster. Much of the rest of what you wrote simply goes to the difference choices the staffs made in run game philosophies.
Here is the question to ask and answer properly. Do you see a real franchise QB in this draft or not? If you are not absolutely sure (but hope yes) or your answer is "no", then you have to go with BPA regardless of position. If your answer is a resounding "yes-without a doubt" then take the QB. At the moment mine is not a "yes", more like a "maybe and sure hope so". So for now I go with BPA. We'll see after free agency/pro days/combines are done.
No offense, but you are looking for the wrong things to change your mind.
But as for your query... "Is the floor of any of the class of 2016 Franchise QB?"
My answer is, Yes. For the third time since 2012, I am sure there is one.
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I don't think I can even fully envision what the city of Cleveland will do when the Browns eventually make it to the Super Bowl.
Charlotte is a city full of young professionals (mostly in the banking industry) and, while there are plenty hardcore fans here, it's not nearly the same environment as a football city like Cleveland. This city is relatively cultureless...it's a vanilla town. There's fun events happening here, sure - but I firmly believe the city of Cleveland would be in a state of martial law and the unemployment rate would skyrocket just from the sheer amount of people calling out of work for extended periods of time and partying in the streets 24 hours a day.
For you "only" being in your 20s. Let me tell you how it was in the Bernie years. I was at the double overtime win against the Jets, and I can truthfully say after the game the town was about ready to go into orbit. High fiveing everywhere, cops driving drunks home... I can't even imagine what it would be like if the Browns ever win the Super Bowl.Zombo said:
I once heard that a typical crowd at a Panthers game is a bunch of putzes with sweaters tied around their shoulders.
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I was at a Browns- Panthers game around 10 years ago, and that was my impression- TC had an update, and I'll take it to be accurate.
I was at a Browns- Panthers game around 10 years ago, and that was my impression- TC had an update, and I'll take it to be accurate.
I was at that same game he's talking about and am the exact same age as well. Another thing you gotta realize is the Panthers have only been a team for 20 or so years now. A lot of people in this area had teams they already supported whereas most everyone up North was born into a fandom. TCPO isn't too far off, honestly having gone now to 20 or so games in Charlotte the vibe is pretty chill overall. Compared to Cleveland it's like a damn art gallery in terms of fans and atmosphere. You just don't see a lot of fights and riff-raff because as pointed out Charlotte is more of a city catered to bankers and "white collar". Overall, I'd say to look at it as Charlotte's identity doesn't revolve around the Panthers like Cleveland does with their sports which makes a fundamental difference.
That's not a knock on Cleveland though, holy shit I've had fun at that stadium.
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/01/nfl_exec_if_the_browns_draft_q.html
Is this one already up?
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/01/nfl_exec_if_the_browns_draft_q.html
Is this one already up?
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/01/nfl_exec_if_the_browns_draft_q.html
Is this one already up?
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Finally-the Mary Kay Kiss of Death. Get Bosa!
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Zombo said:
I once heard that a typical crowd at a Panthers game is a bunch of putzes with sweaters tied around their shoulders.
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Not really. For a 26 year old male, I'd say the Panthers crowd is more appealing than that of other teams - it's more just drunken southern girls who kind of like sports but really are just there because it's the biggest thing going on at that moment, or a bunch of older bankers and lawyers. It's not like going to a game for a team that has a deep rooted tradition or fanbase - a lot of these fans are still first generation fans. Not knocking it, it's still a good time.
I got into a wonderful altercation at the Browns - Panthers game last year. Some drunk was shit talking me from the top of a rather steep hill after the game, so I called him out on being so far away, and his buddy tried to run down the hill, got airborne, and slammed his face into a concrete trash can...knocking himself out cold.
Not really. For a 26 year old male, I'd say the Panthers crowd is more appealing than that of other teams - it's more just drunken southern girls who kind of like sports but really are just there because it's the biggest thing going on at that moment, or a bunch of older bankers and lawyers. It's not like going to a game for a team that has a deep rooted tradition or fanbase - a lot of these fans are still first generation fans. Not knocking it, it's still a good time.
I got into a wonderful altercation at the Browns - Panthers game last year. Some drunk was shit talking me from the top of a rather steep hill after the game, so I called him out on being so far away, and his buddy tried to run down the hill, got airborne, and slammed his face into a concrete trash can...knocking himself out cold.
Isn't it fair to say that Charlotte...and NC area is really basketball more than football country?
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As I heard in a discussion of the upcoming draft yesterday on a Dallas sports radio station, don't believe a damn thing you hear coming out of any NFL FO between now and the draft. Dallas is talking about how impressed they are with him too. Intentional slight of hand to get the Browns to take him so they can take Goff?
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Not really. For a 26 year old male, I'd say the Panthers crowd is more appealing than that of other teams - it's more just drunken southern girls who kind of like sports but really are just there because it's the biggest thing going on at that moment, or a bunch of older bankers and lawyers. It's not like going to a game for a team that has a deep rooted tradition or fanbase - a lot of these fans are still first generation fans. Not knocking it, it's still a good time.
I got into a wonderful altercation at the Browns - Panthers game last year. Some drunk was shit talking me from the top of a rather steep hill after the game, so I called him out on being so far away, and his buddy tried to run down the hill, got airborne, and slammed his face into a concrete trash can...knocking himself out cold.
Isn't it fair to say that Charlotte...and NC area is really basketball more than football country?
Isn't it fair to say that Charlotte...and NC area is really basketball more than football country?
Absolutely. With the proximity of Duke and UNC, plus with the fact that Michael Jordan and Steph Curry are locals...it's safe to call this place an extremely basketball-centric community.
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From the article:
Here is what Walter Football said on Monday:
One area scout of a team picking in the top 10 that doesn't need a quarterback was gushing over North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz. The team has given him a first-round grade and thinks that Wentz is the real deal. They say that Wentz has a good arm, size and athleticism, and they love him off the field. They like his pocket presence, field vision, experience under center, making play calls in the huddle, and potential to grow in the NFL. The scout said that he will fill out his frame in a NFL strength and conditioning program. That area scout said the big challenge for Wentz will be the drastic change in the speed of the game coming from North Dakota State's opponents compared to the NFL. This week at the Senior Bowl could vault Wentz high in the first round.
Out of all the required QB traits which key one is missing?
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Accuracy or quick decision making? Technically I'd say two things.
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The coffee sucks here...
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Accuracy or quick decision making? Technically I'd say two things.
I'd say his short to mid accuracy is actually one of his strengths. Have you been watching his senior bowl practices?
With the exception of his first day (which still wasn't bad in the least), he's been putting the ball in the perfect spot on nearly every throw.
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Accuracy or quick decision making? Technically I'd say two things.
I'd say his short to mid accuracy is actually one of his strengths. Have you been watching his senior bowl practices?
With the exception of his first day (which still wasn't bad in the least), he's been putting the ball in the perfect spot on nearly every throw.
I'd say his short to mid accuracy is actually one of his strengths. Have you been watching his senior bowl practices?
With the exception of his first day (which still wasn't bad in the least), he's been putting the ball in the perfect spot on nearly every throw.
He's accurate enough - the speed of the game and decision making are definitely bigger questions for me at this point.
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Accuracy or quick decision making? Technically I'd say two things.
I'd say his short to mid accuracy is actually one of his strengths. Have you been watching his senior bowl practices?
With the exception of his first day (which still wasn't bad in the least), he's been putting the ball in the perfect spot on nearly every throw.
I'd say his short to mid accuracy is actually one of his strengths. Have you been watching his senior bowl practices?
With the exception of his first day (which still wasn't bad in the least), he's been putting the ball in the perfect spot on nearly every throw.
I was merely addressing the 'missing' strengths Tour had highlighted. Not so much my own observations.
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Accuracy or quick decision making? Technically I'd say two things.
I'd say his short to mid accuracy is actually one of his strengths. Have you been watching his senior bowl practices?
With the exception of his first day (which still wasn't bad in the least), he's been putting the ball in the perfect spot on nearly every throw.
I'd say his short to mid accuracy is actually one of his strengths. Have you been watching his senior bowl practices?
With the exception of his first day (which still wasn't bad in the least), he's been putting the ball in the perfect spot on nearly every throw.
The throws have been good, but often to the wrong target. Especially was true Wednesday. OC met him after plays, "Good, but...", and that was in 7-on-6 drills.
I was merely addressing the 'missing' strengths Tour had highlighted. Not so much my own observations.
Decision making pretty much captured it... Will be the most interesting part of the game.
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From the article:
Here is what Walter Football said on Monday:
One area scout of a team picking in the top 10 that doesn't need a quarterback was gushing over North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz. The team has given him a first-round grade and thinks that Wentz is the real deal. They say that Wentz has a good arm, size and athleticism, and they love him off the field. They like his pocket presence, field vision, experience under center, making play calls in the huddle, and potential to grow in the NFL. The scout said that he will fill out his frame in a NFL strength and conditioning program. That area scout said the big challenge for Wentz will be the drastic change in the speed of the game coming from North Dakota State's opponents compared to the NFL. This week at the Senior Bowl could vault Wentz high in the first round.
Out of all the required QB traits which key one is missing?
Same thing others have bitched about? Lack of big time competition?From the article:
Here is what Walter Football said on Monday:
One area scout of a team picking in the top 10 that doesn't need a quarterback was gushing over North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz. The team has given him a first-round grade and thinks that Wentz is the real deal. They say that Wentz has a good arm, size and athleticism, and they love him off the field. They like his pocket presence, field vision, experience under center, making play calls in the huddle, and potential to grow in the NFL. The scout said that he will fill out his frame in a NFL strength and conditioning program. That area scout said the big challenge for Wentz will be the drastic change in the speed of the game coming from North Dakota State's opponents compared to the NFL. This week at the Senior Bowl could vault Wentz high in the first round.
Out of all the required QB traits which key one is missing?Relax tour I'm not campaigning for this guy. Just posting a link.
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I think they make it with cat shit.
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--and it lacks proper pocket presence
This is hilarious to me.
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Same thing others have bitched about? Lack of big time competition?From the article:
Here is what Walter Football said on Monday:
One area scout of a team picking in the top 10 that doesn't need a quarterback was gushing over North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz. The team has given him a first-round grade and thinks that Wentz is the real deal. They say that Wentz has a good arm, size and athleticism, and they love him off the field. They like his pocket presence, field vision, experience under center, making play calls in the huddle, and potential to grow in the NFL. The scout said that he will fill out his frame in a NFL strength and conditioning program. That area scout said the big challenge for Wentz will be the drastic change in the speed of the game coming from North Dakota State's opponents compared to the NFL. This week at the Senior Bowl could vault Wentz high in the first round.
Out of all the required QB traits which key one is missing?Relax tour I'm not campaigning for this guy. Just posting a link.
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Same thing others have bitched about? Lack of big time competition?
Relax tour I'm not campaigning for this guy. Just posting a link.
Were I any more relaxed, my friend, I'd be asleep...
Just pointing out that this anonymous, effusive praise from a competing organization is incomplete... and not in a small way.
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