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  • @darren15 said:

    Bosa .....QB in this draft are overrated

    we play a 3-4 what good would Bosa do us. Besides how did the Texans do with Watt and Clowney and no QB to speak of.

    @topdawg31 said:

    we play a 3-4 what good would Bosa do us. Besides how did the Texans do with Watt and Clowney and no QB to speak of.

    I mean, Watt is the best player in the NFL and before their running game went to the hell the Texans were pretty decent.

  • i'm in.

  • @topdawg31 said:

    we play a 3-4 what good would Bosa do us. Besides how did the Texans do with Watt and Clowney and no QB to speak of.

    I mean, Watt is the best player in the NFL and before their running game went to the hell the Texans were pretty decent.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I mean, Watt is the best player in the NFL and before their running game went to the hell the Texans were pretty decent.

    Watt is the best player in the nfl? Watt is a monster but I wouldn't call him the best player in the nfl. They need a qb and as you mention a running back because I'm pretty sure they are cutting foster. They skated in this season in a rough division.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I mean, Watt is the best player in the NFL and before their running game went to the hell the Texans were pretty decent.

    Watt is the best player in the nfl? Watt is a monster but I wouldn't call him the best player in the nfl. They need a qb and as you mention a running back because I'm pretty sure they are cutting foster. They skated in this season in a rough division.

    @vagitron said:

    Watt is the best player in the nfl? Watt is a monster but I wouldn't call him the best player in the nfl. They need a qb and as you mention a running back because I'm pretty sure they are cutting foster. They skated in this season in a rough division.

    And they won't have a chance at the Goff's of the NFL for the foreseeable future. Just saying.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I mean, Watt is the best player in the NFL and before their running game went to the hell the Texans were pretty decent.

    Watt is the best player in the nfl? Watt is a monster but I wouldn't call him the best player in the nfl. They need a qb and as you mention a running back because I'm pretty sure they are cutting foster. They skated in this season in a rough division.

    @vagitron said:

    Watt is the best player in the nfl? Watt is a monster but I wouldn't call him the best player in the nfl. They need a qb and as you mention a running back because I'm pretty sure they are cutting foster. They skated in this season in a rough division.

    And why isn't he the best player in the NFL?

    Let me guess...

    Because he isn't a QB?

  • @vagitron said:

    Watt is the best player in the nfl? Watt is a monster but I wouldn't call him the best player in the nfl. They need a qb and as you mention a running back because I'm pretty sure they are cutting foster. They skated in this season in a rough division.

    And they won't have a chance at the Goff's of the NFL for the foreseeable future. Just saying.

    @bbedward said:

    And they won't have a chance at the Goff's of the NFL for the foreseeable future. Just saying.

    I'm sure they'll have plenty of chances at second rate prospects.

  • @bbedward said:

    And they won't have a chance at the Goff's of the NFL for the foreseeable future. Just saying.

    I'm sure they'll have plenty of chances at second rate prospects.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I'm sure they'll have plenty of chances at second rate prospects.

    Yea I think Wentz might fall to #22.

  • @vagitron said:

    Watt is the best player in the nfl? Watt is a monster but I wouldn't call him the best player in the nfl. They need a qb and as you mention a running back because I'm pretty sure they are cutting foster. They skated in this season in a rough division.

    And why isn't he the best player in the NFL?

    Let me guess...

    Because he isn't a QB?

    @tiamat63 said:

    And why isn't he the best player in the NFL?

    Let me guess...

    Because he isn't a QB?

    Close Tia! But considering the source it's because he doesn't wear that limp wristed black and yellow. Vag would have gone on the rag ahead of schedule with another terrible 2's tantrum if people didn't consider James Harrison as a best player in the NFL candidate.

  • @vagitron said:

    Watt is the best player in the nfl? Watt is a monster but I wouldn't call him the best player in the nfl. They need a qb and as you mention a running back because I'm pretty sure they are cutting foster. They skated in this season in a rough division.

    And why isn't he the best player in the NFL?

    Let me guess...

    Because he isn't a QB?

    @tiamat63 said:

    And why isn't he the best player in the NFL?

    Let me guess...

    Because he isn't a QB?

    No, I just don't think he's the best player in the nfl. He's ridiculously good but I think there are a few other players that would make more of an impact if someone were starting a franchise tomorrow from scratch. He may not even be the best defensive lineman. Aaron Donald is making that case. Espn (who I don't care for) used pff rankings to put together a list a few days ago actually. Donald was one and Antonio brown was 2.
  • More talented version of Andrew Luck?

  • More talented version of Andrew Luck?

    @nocal-jack said:

    More talented version of Andrew Luck?

    When tape finally rolls at the 1:25 mark the narrator loses all credibility by describing a first read, out route as "a backshoulder pass thrown with anticipation."

  • NoCal-- Luck has never played the likes of J'ville St 😮.-- My only hope is if Wentz, went in past tense means been. Like Big Ben in future. If Wentz can drive the ball in the lake winds in our division, that's his advantage over Goff.

  • It was either Polian or Mayock that said during a Senior Bowl week broadcast that... and I am paraphrasing here:

    "Based on the tape I thought Wentz had a big-time, Pro arm, but then I stood on the sideline and saw that he doesn't. It's a good arm, good enough for the NFL, but not as big as I thought based upon the tape. There are many QBs that succeed in the league with lesser arms. There are more important things than arm strength."

  • NoCal-- Luck has never played the likes of J'ville St 😮.-- My only hope is if Wentz, went in past tense means been. Like Big Ben in future. If Wentz can drive the ball in the lake winds in our division, that's his advantage over Goff.

    @gumby73 said:

    NoCal-- Luck has never played the likes of J'ville St 😮.-- My only hope is if Wentz, went in past tense means been. Like Big Ben in future. If Wentz can drive the ball in the lake winds in our division, that's his advantage over Goff.

    That's 1 way to look at it. Did you happened to bring this up to any of the RG3 fan club when he was getting over-hyped from heroics in a conference that doesn't play a lick of defense?

    Another way to see it, if you're willing to, is Wentz hasn't had nearly as many NFL-caliber targets to throw to as Luck had. Looks like he did a great job of taking his team as far as they could go. He has a nice arm and I liked how he moved around in the pocket. I wasn't overly impressed with a lot of the WRs at the Senior Bowl which is why I try not to put too much stock in 1 game featuring QBs throwing to strangers they're not accustomed to working with. It's tough to expect great chemistry that quickly.

    Canton Mike has another interesting perspective worth reading about the game plans and who's purpose they served best.

  • It was either Polian or Mayock that said during a Senior Bowl week broadcast that... and I am paraphrasing here:

    "Based on the tape I thought Wentz had a big-time, Pro arm, but then I stood on the sideline and saw that he doesn't. It's a good arm, good enough for the NFL, but not as big as I thought based upon the tape. There are many QBs that succeed in the league with lesser arms. There are more important things than arm strength."

    @tour2ma said:

    It was either Polian or Mayock that said during a Senior Bowl week broadcast that... and I am paraphrasing here:

    "Based on the tape I thought Wentz had a big-time, Pro arm, but then I stood on the sideline and saw that he doesn't. It's a good arm, good enough for the NFL, but not as big as I thought based upon the tape. There are many QBs that succeed in the league with lesser arms. There are more important things than arm strength."

    I think it was Mayock. Glad you shared that.

  • That's all you here on sports talk radio and sports websites, none are NFL ready. Is it too soon to think we take a QB in the first round? We have McCown another year and he didn't suck.

  • It was either Polian or Mayock that said during a Senior Bowl week broadcast that... and I am paraphrasing here:

    "Based on the tape I thought Wentz had a big-time, Pro arm, but then I stood on the sideline and saw that he doesn't. It's a good arm, good enough for the NFL, but not as big as I thought based upon the tape. There are many QBs that succeed in the league with lesser arms. There are more important things than arm strength."

    @tour2ma said:

    It was either Polian or Mayock that said during a Senior Bowl week broadcast that... and I am paraphrasing here:

    "Based on the tape I thought Wentz had a big-time, Pro arm, but then I stood on the sideline and saw that he doesn't. It's a good arm, good enough for the NFL, but not as big as I thought based upon the tape. There are many QBs that succeed in the league with lesser arms. There are more important things than arm strength."

    Outch... that hurts. If he had a great arm then right now I would favor him over Goff. Goff also has a good arm.

  • It was either Polian or Mayock that said during a Senior Bowl week broadcast that... and I am paraphrasing here:

    "Based on the tape I thought Wentz had a big-time, Pro arm, but then I stood on the sideline and saw that he doesn't. It's a good arm, good enough for the NFL, but not as big as I thought based upon the tape. There are many QBs that succeed in the league with lesser arms. There are more important things than arm strength."

    @tour2ma said:

    It was either Polian or Mayock that said during a Senior Bowl week broadcast that... and I am paraphrasing here:

    "Based on the tape I thought Wentz had a big-time, Pro arm, but then I stood on the sideline and saw that he doesn't. It's a good arm, good enough for the NFL, but not as big as I thought based upon the tape. There are many QBs that succeed in the league with lesser arms. There are more important things than arm strength."

    As long as it's better than Ken Dorsey's.

  • That's all you here on sports talk radio and sports websites, none are NFL ready. Is it too soon to think we take a QB in the first round? We have McCown another year and he didn't suck.

    @opal312 said:

    That's all you here on sports talk radio and sports websites, none are NFL ready. Is it too soon to think we take a QB in the first round? We have McCown another year and he didn't suck.

    But hopefully we won't be picking number two next year behind a team that doesn't need a quarterback.

    And if we are no point taking one because the front office will spend the year after that packing their shit.

    🙂

    WSS

  • @tour2ma said:

    It was either Polian or Mayock that said during a Senior Bowl week broadcast that... and I am paraphrasing here:

    "Based on the tape I thought Wentz had a big-time, Pro arm, but then I stood on the sideline and saw that he doesn't. It's a good arm, good enough for the NFL, but not as big as I thought based upon the tape. There are many QBs that succeed in the league with lesser arms. There are more important things than arm strength."

    As long as it's better than Ken Dorsey's.

    @hoorta said:

    As long as it's better than Ken Dorsey's.

    Or just Andy Dalton's. I thought Hue was getting Dalton to the very best football of his career prior to that season ending thumb injury. The arm was way stronger than it was back when Dalton was a rookie or 2nd year starter leading his team to playoffs. As I said earlier, I think Wentz would show up with a stronger arm than Dalton began his career with.

    What he gets surrounded with and how well he gets coached up will matter every bit as much as arm strength, if not more. Weeden had a bazooka but the poor guy only had 2 brain cells and they weren't on speaking terms.