Jonathan Paul Manziel
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It was never a good fit for johnny in cleveland. It wasn't hard to see that an organization screaming for stability, with a rookie defensive minded head coach, shouldn't draft a guy like Johnny. I saw it as a waste of at least one season, probably two or three. I wasn't too far off, and even I, who was against drafting him, was shocked at just how thoroughly he blew off his rookie season. After that, I was done with him. I'm no spring chicken and would like to see the Browns get to the playoffs (I've lowered my standards incrementally over the last 10 years) before i die. I don't have time to wait around on a guy who needs to grow up first. It was so obvious to me that the browns were asking for not only a project whose biggest assets were playground QB skills, but also a big time project with off the field stuff ( and that has turned out to be even worse than my imagination would allow in may 2014). As far as in concerned, I don't know how any Browns fan can NOT be done with him. He has wasted two seasons of our time. And not because he just can't grasp the game ( I try to have patience with rookies and the learning curve), but because he didn't give 100%. He never made football the priority. I liken him to your buddy who is the life of the party, the guy you call when it's time to blow off steam for a while, but the guy you would NEVER hire to run your business.
It was never a good fit for johnny in cleveland. It wasn't hard to see that an organization screaming for stability, with a rookie defensive minded head coach, shouldn't draft a guy like Johnny. I saw it as a waste of at least one season, probably two or three. I wasn't too far off, and even I, who was against drafting him, was shocked at just how thoroughly he blew off his rookie season. After that, I was done with him. I'm no spring chicken and would like to see the Browns get to the playoffs (I've lowered my standards incrementally over the last 10 years) before i die. I don't have time to wait around on a guy who needs to grow up first. It was so obvious to me that the browns were asking for not only a project whose biggest assets were playground QB skills, but also a big time project with off the field stuff ( and that has turned out to be even worse than my imagination would allow in may 2014). As far as in concerned, I don't know how any Browns fan can NOT be done with him. He has wasted two seasons of our time. And not because he just can't grasp the game ( I try to have patience with rookies and the learning curve), but because he didn't give 100%. He never made football the priority. I liken him to your buddy who is the life of the party, the guy you call when it's time to blow off steam for a while, but the guy you would NEVER hire to run your business.
I don't think it would have mattered. A stable organization like the Pats or Steelers may not have caused JFF to behave any differently.
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Colleen Crowley claiming JM threatened to kill her and then kill himself this past weekend. .
http://www.wfaa.com/sports/johnny-manziel-threatened-ex-girlfriend/32613842
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Uh, so....what the fuck is happening.
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50 pages will be here and gone shortly.
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Colleen Crowley claiming JM threatened to kill her and then kill himself this past weekend. .
http://www.wfaa.com/sports/johnny-manziel-threatened-ex-girlfriend/32613842
Colleen Crowley claiming JM threatened to kill her and then kill himself this past weekend. .
http://www.wfaa.com/sports/johnny-manziel-threatened-ex-girlfriend/32613842
Pretty detailed account by her:
(Now tell me we are at 50 so I can lock this bitch)
EXCLUSIVE: Manziel's ex claims QB threatened to kill her, himselfRebecca Lopez, WFAA 5:32 PM. CST February 04, 2016888
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DALLAS - The ex-girlfriend of NFL quarterback Johnny Manziel told police that the Heisman Trophy winner told her "shut up or I'll kill us both" after forcing her into a car, hitting her, and dragging her by the hair.
On Thursday, News 8 learned harrowing details of last week's alleged assault of Colleen Crowley by Manziel, who is currently on the Cleveland Browns roster, but is not expected to return next season.
After News 8 broke this story Thursday afternoon, Manziel denied wrongdoing in a published report.
“We've been clear about expectations for our players on and off the field,” said Sashi Brown, the Browns executive vice president of football operations, in a statement Tuesday.
“Johnny's continual involvement in incidents that run counter to those expectations undermines the hard work of his teammates and the reputation of our organization,” Browns statement reads. “His status with our team will be addressed when permitted by league rules. We will have no further comment at this time.”
Crowley has told authorities that, according to sources, she is afraid for her safety and has drafted an order of protection to be presented to a Tarrant County district court judge.
Crowley and Manziel dated for two years and lived together for four months before breaking up in December, sources said.
Sources say in her affidavit, Crowley outlines the details of an alleged assault that she said began in Manziel's hotel room in Dallas in the early morning hours of Saturday, Jan. 30.
Sources say on Friday night, Crowley and three friends started the evening off at Victor Tangos, a swanky restaurant in the Knox-Henderson neighborhood in Dallas.
Crowley and friends bar-hopped for a few hours before she met Manziel in his room at Hotel ZaZa in Uptown Dallas.
Sources say while in his hotel room, the two of them argued over another girl. Crowley told police she tried to leave the room, but that Manziel wouldn't let her.
Crowley told police Manziel "restrained" in some manner and "led" her down a back stairway to the valet area.
"I was crying and begged the valet, 'Please don't let him take me. I'm scared for my life!'" she told police. The valet reportedly told her, "I don't know what to do" and let Manziel leave with her.
Sources say Manziel then drove her about a half-mile to her car, which was parked near the Concrete Cowboy bar off Cedar Springs Road. She claims she jumped out of the car and tried to hide from Manziel, but he found her in some nearby bushes.
"He grabbed me by my hair and threw me back into the car and got back in himself," she reportedly told police. "He hit me with his open hand on my left ear for jumping out of the car. I realized immediately that I could not hear out of that ear, and I still cannot today, two days later."
Crowley then reportedly hit Manziel several times, hoping to get out of the car, but, she told police, Manziel "threw me off of him" and she hit her head on the car window. She told police he would not give her her phone.
Sources say Manziel then got on Interstate 30 and began driving to her apartment in Fort Worth. While en route, she claims, she yelled at him, "I hate you!" He allegedly replied that "he was going to drop me off, take my car and go kill himself," sources said.
She says she thought he was on drugs or maybe having a psychotic break. She told police she then began telling him she loved him.
She says at that time Manziel "started laughing" and then reportedly yelled at her to "shut up or I'll kill us both."
She says they finally made it to her Fort Worth apartment where the argument continued.
Crowley claims Manziel became angry, and smashed her phone. He then went outside and started "pacing," she told police. While she was alone, she tried to use her computer to contact her parents through Apple's FaceTime video chat system.
She said Manziel came back into the apartment, checked her computer, and realized she had tried to contact her parents.
"I was in my kitchen, so out of fear for my life, I pulled a knife out of my knife block and advanced toward him," Crowley told police.
"He ran out of the apartment," she said. When she saw him in the parking lot, she said she banged on a neighbor's door and screamed for help. Manziel fled on foot, she told police.
Manziel burst onto the national sports scene in 2012 while a freshman at Texas A&M University. That season, he led the Aggies to 11 wins, including a victory over top-ranked Alabama.
The win over the Crimson Tide and his dazzling play in college football’s toughest conference positioned Manziel to become the first ever freshman to win the Heisman Trophy.
He left Texas A&M after his sophomore season and entered the NFL draft. Manziel’s past legal problems and concerns over his size led NFL executives to question whether he could compete at the professional level.
Manziel wasn’t taken until the 22nd overall pick by the Cleveland Browns. Over his two seasons in the NFL, Manziel has played in 14 games for the Browns.
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If true I'd assume it'd be safe to say he has further problems than just being a 23 year old who likes to have fun.
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Interesting to me: She said the ears were still ringing two days later. So this was not a crazy, drunk report she made the night of the incident ... but two days later. Makes the possibility of it being accurate much stronger IMO.
Doesn't look good for our boy, Johnny.
Oh well, we'll always have the Titans and 49ers games.
Zombo
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Interesting to me: She said the ears were still ringing two days later. So this was not a crazy, drunk report she made the night of the incident ... but two days later. Makes the possibility of it being accurate much stronger IMO.
Doesn't look good for our boy, Johnny.
Oh well, we'll always have the Titans and 49ers games.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Interesting to me: She said the ears were still ringing two days later. So this was not a crazy, drunk report she made the night of the incident ... but two days later. Makes the possibility of it being accurate much stronger IMO.
Doesn't look good for our boy, Johnny.
Oh well, we'll always have the Titans and 49ers games.
Zombo
CTE
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Johnny has finally spoken and issued this statement tonight.
Manziel told TMZ Sports that he did not strike Crowley, saying "It didn't happen." He also said that he did not threatened to kill her or himself during the dispute.
"I'm completely stable. I'm safe and secure,'' he told the site.
Manziel said "I have great things coming ahead" but wouldn't elaborate. "I know I've been having fun but I just need to get my body right. I'm 100% committed to playing football."
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Johnny has finally spoken and issued this statement tonight.
Manziel told TMZ Sports that he did not strike Crowley, saying "It didn't happen." He also said that he did not threatened to kill her or himself during the dispute.
"I'm completely stable. I'm safe and secure,'' he told the site.
Manziel said "I have great things coming ahead" but wouldn't elaborate. "I know I've been having fun but I just need to get my body right. I'm 100% committed to playing football."
Johnny has finally spoken and issued this statement tonight.
Manziel said "I have great things coming ahead" but wouldn't elaborate. "I know I've been having fun but I just need to get my body right. I'm 100% committed to playing football."
He hasn't shown he's even 50% committed to playing football.
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And I share your concerns Mark. I just think he could be the guy. I may be wrong but we will never know.
WSS
You seem to be totally alone in that viewpoint. Let's see if ANY other team picks him up (I doubt it) and let's see how he does there. If he turns his life around, I'll gladly "eat crow". I wish him the best, I REALLY do, but I think his life is headed for tragedy if someone doesn't reach him soon.
I wish him the best, I REALLY do, but I think his life is headed for tragedy if someone doesn't reach him soon.
^^^ This is what I posted yesterday.............seems to be coming true quickly . Sad.
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What a fuck job, the 911 call is pretty convincing it was more than an argument.
Can't wait until he's no longer associated with the Browns.
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Boys, if any of you spent any amount of time playing in a rock and roll band for a living I would bet dollars to dog turds that you know of multiple similar stories with crazy fucking drunken girlfriends at the core.
WSS
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