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It's time for NH to change the rep nominee direction

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  • bbedward bbedwardB Conversation Starter Reacting Well Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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    For perspective they called all 1500 Cruz precinct captains with that news (or however many there are)

    If each one convinced 4 Carson supporters to vote for Cruz that's 6000 votes - enough to make Cruz come in second.

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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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      I don't trust trump, rubio or christie at all if they got into the wh.

      I do kasich, and maybe Cruz, but a lot less,

      and Carson is still an outstanding human being who would make a great VP.

      I hope Kasich surprises the field. He should be leading the pack.

      and Jeb... is a willy nilly fuddy duddy if he got into the wh.

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        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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        I'd be shocked if Kasich got any traction, but I think he's better than trump/cruz/rubio/carson. I can't see him going with carson for VP, FWIW. Maybe Jeb or someone establishment.

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          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          https://www.bencarson.com/landing/audio/page-hfld?sc=oponond02042016pm

          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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            https://www.bencarson.com/landing/audio/page-hfld?sc=oponond02042016pm

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            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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            @diehardbrownsfan said:

            https://www.bencarson.com/landing/audio/page-hfld?sc=oponond02042016pm

            Well, we knew that, right? Important part is whether they genuinely believed that and had bad information, or were wilfully trying to undermine the carson campagin. Either way it isn't good for Cruz.

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              @diehardbrownsfan said:

              https://www.bencarson.com/landing/audio/page-hfld?sc=oponond02042016pm

              Well, we knew that, right? Important part is whether they genuinely believed that and had bad information, or were wilfully trying to undermine the carson campagin. Either way it isn't good for Cruz.

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              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
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              @gftchris said:

              Well, we knew that, right? Important part is whether they genuinely believed that and had bad information, or were wilfully trying to undermine the carson campagin. Either way it isn't good for Cruz.

              It was a political move, just like the 'citations' sent to people who hadn't participated. Cruz is a shrewd politician.

              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                @gftchris said:

                Well, we knew that, right? Important part is whether they genuinely believed that and had bad information, or were wilfully trying to undermine the carson campagin. Either way it isn't good for Cruz.

                It was a political move, just like the 'citations' sent to people who hadn't participated. Cruz is a shrewd politician.

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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                It was a political move, just like the 'citations' sent to people who hadn't participated. Cruz is a shrewd politician.

                For 'shrewd politician' read 'underhanded dick'? Don't like that in a politician, one of the main reasons I don't like Hillary.

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                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                  https://www.bencarson.com/landing/audio/page-hfld?sc=oponond02042016pm

                  Well, we knew that, right? Important part is whether they genuinely believed that and had bad information, or were wilfully trying to undermine the carson campagin. Either way it isn't good for Cruz.

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                  bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                  @gftchris said:

                  Well, we knew that, right? Important part is whether they genuinely believed that and had bad information, or were wilfully trying to undermine the carson campagin. Either way it isn't good for Cruz.

                  The original story didn't say Carson was dropping out on CNN, but CNN clarified anyway he's just getting a change of clothes and isn't dropping out.

                  After CNN reiterated that going to Florida doesn't mean he's dropping out, the Cruz campaign called all 1500 Iowa precinct Cruz captains (around 7:30, 1/2 hr before voting time) and told them to get Carson supporters because he's dropping out.

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    It's part nixonian dirty tricks, and more a part of obamao/chicago dirty way.

                    Come on....KASICH !

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                      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                      Cruz definitely pulled a Clinton.

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                        It's part nixonian dirty tricks, and more a part of obamao/chicago dirty way.

                        Come on....KASICH !

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        @calfoxwc said:

                        It's part nixonian dirty tricks, and more a part of obamao/chicago dirty way.

                        Come on....KASICH !

                        I like how you're burning through all the candidates trying to find one you like.

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                          @gftchris said:

                          Well, we knew that, right? Important part is whether they genuinely believed that and had bad information, or were wilfully trying to undermine the carson campagin. Either way it isn't good for Cruz.

                          The original story didn't say Carson was dropping out on CNN, but CNN clarified anyway he's just getting a change of clothes and isn't dropping out.

                          After CNN reiterated that going to Florida doesn't mean he's dropping out, the Cruz campaign called all 1500 Iowa precinct Cruz captains (around 7:30, 1/2 hr before voting time) and told them to get Carson supporters because he's dropping out.

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                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                          @bbedward said:

                          The original story didn't say Carson was dropping out on CNN, but CNN clarified anyway he's just getting a change of clothes and isn't dropping out.

                          After CNN reiterated that going to Florida doesn't mean he's dropping out, the Cruz campaign called all 1500 Iowa precinct Cruz captains (around 7:30, 1/2 hr before voting time) and told them to get Carson supporters because he's dropping out.

                          At the minimum it was sloppy reporting from CNN and although they never said Carson was leaving the race they left the impression he was saying that he was not going to New Hampshire or South Carolina but Florida. I put more blame on this on the Cruz campaign who took the story and ran with it without bothering to check with Carson to confirm it but CNN is not without fault here either.

                          Carson showed a lot of character in how he handled this by accepting the apology from Cruz. Carson said he would like to see some accountability from the Cruz campaign which I agree with. Too many times we see this out of Washington where politicians say they take full responsibility on issues but there are never consequences. I do think Cruz should fire some people on his campaign staff who were not responsible in how they handled this. I don't for a second think Cruz himself had anything to do with it though.

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                            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                            Yes, a quick call from someone at Cruz HQ to someone at Carson HQ, or even candidate to candidate, would have sufficed.

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                            • C calfoxwc

                              I don't trust trump, rubio or christie at all if they got into the wh.

                              I do kasich, and maybe Cruz, but a lot less,

                              and Carson is still an outstanding human being who would make a great VP.

                              I hope Kasich surprises the field. He should be leading the pack.

                              and Jeb... is a willy nilly fuddy duddy if he got into the wh.

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                              Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                              @calfoxwc said:

                              I don't trust trump, rubio or christie at all if they got into the wh.

                              I do kasich, and maybe Cruz, but a lot less,

                              and Carson is still an outstanding human being who would make a great VP.

                              I hope Kasich surprises the field. He should be leading the pack.

                              and Jeb... is a willy nilly fuddy duddy if he got into the wh.

                              I could go with Carson as a running mate. I also think Trump may have some usefulness in a cabinet post, like Commerce.

                              I can't handle the D side nominees at all. K-Sick kicked me a tad left in 2011, Obama and Hillary kicked me back towards the center. The invisible fence won't let me slide too far right, but holy crap I'm as fed up with all this political BS as anyone.

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                                @calfoxwc said:

                                I don't trust trump, rubio or christie at all if they got into the wh.

                                I do kasich, and maybe Cruz, but a lot less,

                                and Carson is still an outstanding human being who would make a great VP.

                                I hope Kasich surprises the field. He should be leading the pack.

                                and Jeb... is a willy nilly fuddy duddy if he got into the wh.

                                I could go with Carson as a running mate. I also think Trump may have some usefulness in a cabinet post, like Commerce.

                                I can't handle the D side nominees at all. K-Sick kicked me a tad left in 2011, Obama and Hillary kicked me back towards the center. The invisible fence won't let me slide too far right, but holy crap I'm as fed up with all this political BS as anyone.

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                                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                @bob806 said:

                                I could go with Carson as a running mate. I also think Trump may have some usefulness in a cabinet post, like Commerce.

                                I can't handle the D side nominees at all. K-Sick kicked me a tad left in 2011, Obama and Hillary kicked me back towards the center. The invisible fence won't let me slide too far right, but holy crap I'm as fed up with all this political BS as anyone.

                                Vote Bernie... 😉

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                                • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                                  I could see it end up being Rubio vs Sanders. Cruz/Trump/Hillary are pure diarrhea.

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                                  OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                                  @logicisforsquares said:

                                  I could see it end up being Rubio vs Sanders. Cruz/Trump/Hillary are pure diarrhea.

                                  Even as hard left the democrats have gone and Clinton being a weak candidate I see no chance of a socialist like Sanders beating her out. Sanders will win in New Hampshire but after that and the race goes South I don't see Sanders winning too many states.

                                  I'm supporting Cruz but not sure if he can win it. I think it will either be Trump or Rubio versus Clinton (unless Clinton is indicted).

                                  I think it is comical how recently Clinton has wrapped herself around Obama promising to be Obama's third time. Now why would Hillary do this with a president who it not popular? Hmmm maybe hoping it will help her not get indicted from the Obama Justice Dept??? That is OBF's guess.

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                                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                    Socialist - it's a dirty word.

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                                      Socialist - it's a dirty word.

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                                      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      @gftchris said:

                                      Socialist - it's a dirty word.

                                      Watch your language fella.

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                                        @logicisforsquares said:

                                        I could see it end up being Rubio vs Sanders. Cruz/Trump/Hillary are pure diarrhea.

                                        Even as hard left the democrats have gone and Clinton being a weak candidate I see no chance of a socialist like Sanders beating her out. Sanders will win in New Hampshire but after that and the race goes South I don't see Sanders winning too many states.

                                        I'm supporting Cruz but not sure if he can win it. I think it will either be Trump or Rubio versus Clinton (unless Clinton is indicted).

                                        I think it is comical how recently Clinton has wrapped herself around Obama promising to be Obama's third time. Now why would Hillary do this with a president who it not popular? Hmmm maybe hoping it will help her not get indicted from the Obama Justice Dept??? That is OBF's guess.

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                                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                                        That is OBF's guess.

                                        We know where your loyalties really lie, O'Bama Fan. YOu just want Cruz to get the nomination because he'll lose...

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                                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                                          That is OBF's guess.

                                          We know where your loyalties really lie, O'Bama Fan. YOu just want Cruz to get the nomination because he'll lose...

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                                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                          @gftchris said:

                                          We know where your loyalties really lie, O'Bama Fan. YOu just want Cruz to get the nomination because he'll lose...

                                          Clinton is such a weak candidate I don't see anyone on the republican side losing to her. I think that is the reason the republicans had everyone coming out of the woodwork to run for president this time.

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