Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Zombo said:
What I didn't tell you ... was that after they checked in and were walking past me, I winked at Colleen.
Surprisingly ... she winked back. Seemed innocent enough.
Did she do that duck face thing too???....cause if my girl always did that, Id be a lil angry too...
Did she do that duck face thing too???....cause if my girl always did that, Id be a lil angry too...
Ya, I hate that too.
She seemed sedated and concerned for Johnny. Kinda embarrassed. On that night anyway. I'm sure it is a codependent relationship with drama and bad nights on both sides.
Z
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I agree, and it doesnt really matter what degree her craziness is.Pretty pathetic that most posters here are wanting to blame the girlfriend and not Johnny. She hasn't given anyone a reason to doubt her and Johnny hasn't given anyone a reason to believe him.
Posters have flat out lied and said the police didn't believe her. The police said she was being too vague and uncooperative. Another words not enough info or evidence to make an arrest.
Oh for the record it takes no longer than a half hour to drive from Fort Worth to Dallas in moderate traffic, less if traffic is light. Made the drive 5 days a week for 3 years
If his Dad and agent are extremely worried about him, and he has been to one rehab, and walked out of two this week ... Dude has major demons to work out ... crazy girlfriend or not.
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Zombo said:
I agree, and it doesnt really matter what degree her craziness is.
If his Dad and agent are extremely worried about him, and he has been to one rehab, and walked out of two this week ... Dude has major demons to work out ... crazy girlfriend or not.
Z
Again, no one is granting a pardon to Johnny....except to say that the police do not think he committed the Domestic Violence that the report accuses him of. A woman that was punched or bitch slapped and drug by the hair would have physical signs of that about about her body.
I suspect she had none of that...plus there were 3rd parties there who probably contradicted her statements in the report.
So, at least it seems that for now....that is not one of his foibles.
If she had had that physical evidence, no matter how vague her statements were, or how much she did not want to cooperate, the police would have frog marched him into the jail.
But, you are right....that does not also mean that he does not have those demons.
(though one minor aspect of his demons could disappear along with the crazy girlfriend)
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If she was granted protective order, the judge thought there was some truth to this.Well, according to this Dallas reporter his girlfriend was just granted a 2 year protective order and JM was ordered to pay $12k in fees......she is also reporting that the Cowboys are no longer interested.....
https://twitter.com/rlopezwfaa?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
It's just about him getting help now, no one to blame anymore.
I'd like to see Coleen start dating Mike Pettine though just to make the script for Trainwreck II complete.
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Zombo said:
If she was geanted protective order, the judge thought there was some truth to this.
It's just about him getting help now, no one to blame anymore.
I'd like to see Coleen start dating Mike Pettine though just to make the script for Trainwreck II complete.
Z
Remember, reports often do not get things right. It is highly possible that it was a mutual TPO that was granted.
She needs to stay the fuck away from him as much as he needs to stay the fuck away from her....imo.
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Exactly. No matter what kind of demons or what kind of bad behavior no matter how irresponsible he is and no matter what kind of disrespect he showed a football coach is not a reason to accuse him of beating up a chick when there's no evidence of it. As a matter of fact it's kind of fucked up.
WSS
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Zombo said:
If she was geanted protective order, the judge thought there was some truth to this.
It's just about him getting help now, no one to blame anymore.
I'd like to see Coleen start dating Mike Pettine though just to make the script for Trainwreck II complete.
Z
Remember, reports often do not get things right. It is highly possible that it was a mutual TPO that was granted.
She needs to stay the fuck away from him as much as he needs to stay the fuck away from her....imo.
Remember, reports often do not get things right. It is highly possible that it was a mutual TPO that was granted.
She needs to stay the fuck away from him as much as he needs to stay the fuck away from her....imo.
Thats fine.
But the guy that plays QB for the Browns. .. he needs help
Her issues are irrelevant to me at this point.
When I see the people closest to Johnny pleading for him get help ... I know that is exactly what he needs.
Z
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Exactly. No matter what kind of demons or what kind of bad behavior no matter how irresponsible he is and no matter what kind of disrespect he showed a football coach is not a reason to accuse him of beating up a chick when there's no evidence of it. As a matter of fact it's kind of fucked up.
WSS
Exactly. No matter what kind of demons or what kind of bad behavior no matter how irresponsible he is and no matter what kind of disrespect he showed a football coach is not a reason to accuse him of beating up a chick when there's no evidence of it. As a matter of fact it's kind of fucked up.
WSS
Only the witnesses that seen him smash her head in the Avon incident. a well deserved indefinite suspension is coming his career is over. but as Browns fans we can all thank him for making the Browns relevant a couple days before the Super Bowl
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It's a manziel meltdown. I didn't hate him but I kinda hate him now after the Dallas police reporter just was on the bull and fox show reporting that he burst his girlfriend's ear drum hitting her. There's no scumbag worse than a scumbag who beats on people who can't fight back.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Remember, reports often do not get things right. It is highly possible that it was a mutual TPO that was granted.
She needs to stay the fuck away from him as much as he needs to stay the fuck away from her....imo.
Thats fine.
But the guy that plays QB for the Browns. .. he needs help
Her issues are irrelevant to me at this point.
When I see the people closest to Johnny pleading for him get help ... I know that is exactly what he needs.
Z
Zombo said:
Thats fine.
But the guy that plays QB for the Browns. .. he needs help
Her issues are irrelevant to me at this point.
When I see the people closest to Johnny pleading for him get help ... I know that is exactly what he needs.
Z
No, no argument there for sure. But you did get one thing wrong.....you meant "the guy that plays QB for no NFL team".
Unless you are talking about Josh McCown, Austin Davis or Connor Shaw.
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The case she laid out against him left little doubt as to his guilt in the matter.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Zombo said:
Thats fine.
But the guy that plays QB for the Browns. .. he needs help
Her issues are irrelevant to me at this point.
When I see the people closest to Johnny pleading for him get help ... I know that is exactly what he needs.
Z
No, no argument there for sure. But you did get one thing wrong.....you meant "the guy that plays QB for no NFL team".
Unless you are talking about Josh McCown, Austin Davis or Connor Shaw.
No, no argument there for sure. But you did get one thing wrong.....you meant "the guy that plays QB for no NFL team".
Unless you are talking about Josh McCown, Austin Davis or Connor Shaw.
Well, if this turns into a long-term medical situation, we may be holding on to his rights.
Z
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It's a manziel meltdown. I didn't hate him but I kinda hate him now after the Dallas police reporter just was on the bull and fox show reporting that he burst his girlfriend's ear drum hitting her. There's no scumbag worse than a scumbag who beats on people who can't fight back.
It's a manziel meltdown. I didn't hate him but I kinda hate him now after the Dallas police reporter just was on the bull and fox show reporting that he burst his girlfriend's ear drum hitting her. There's no scumbag worse than a scumbag who beats on people who can't fight back.
Again......I do not believe that the police believe that that happened.
He would have fucking been arrested if that happened.
I mean, what scenario on earth to you propose happened if he did that to her, but the police said "just go home" this investigation is over.
There is none. He would be under arrest. He would be scheduled for an arraignment. He would have had to be bonded out.
All the reporter is apparently doing is reporting what this woman made in her statement.......and the police apparently believe she is LYING.
I mean, do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth? NO police department in the USA would let him go if that happened. Not today. This isn't the 50s.
Honestly, what really needs to happen is for a police spokesman to issue a statement explaining their actions. Explaining why they are bringing no charges.
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I suppose you'll have to look up and listen to her interview yourself. I'm not just making shit up Gipper.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Rebecca Lopez/ bull and fox show
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The case she laid out against him left little doubt as to his guilt in the matter.
The case she laid out against him left little doubt as to his guilt in the matter.
Yea, and the police dropped it.
Here is a little legal advice that you can pay me for later: SHE does NOT make a case. Prosecutors make cases. Police are witness. Victims are witnesses. They don't make cases. They testify.
Do you not think that the prosecutors in Dallas and Ft. Worth were not consulted in a high profile matter such as this? The County Prosecutor(s) there would have had to OK the "no action" situation that occurred.
They don't believe a word of this so called case that she laid out, apparently.
Unless they decide to do a 180 on their decision.........and then Lucy, they got a lot of splainin' to do. They do anyway.
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No, no argument there for sure. But you did get one thing wrong.....you meant "the guy that plays QB for no NFL team".
Unless you are talking about Josh McCown, Austin Davis or Connor Shaw.
Well, if this turns into a long-term medical situation, we may be holding on to his rights.
Z
Zombo said:
Well, if this turns into a long-term medical situation, we may be holding on to his rights.
Z
OK..... explain how that works.....and what would be done.
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Remember, reports often do not get things right. It is highly possible that it was a mutual TPO that was granted.
She needs to stay the fuck away from him as much as he needs to stay the fuck away from her....imo.
Thats fine.
But the guy that plays QB for the Browns. .. he needs help
Her issues are irrelevant to me at this point.
When I see the people closest to Johnny pleading for him get help ... I know that is exactly what he needs.
Z
Zombo said:
Thats fine.
But the guy that plays QB for the Browns. .. he needs help
Her issues are irrelevant to me at this point.
When I see the people closest to Johnny pleading for him get help ... I know that is exactly what he needs.
Z
What I highlighted is, to me, the key. As I have made clear many times, I do NOT trust media reports (often one sided, always sensational). If there had been ANY physical evidence of Johnny striking her, he would have been arrested. The media has presented ONE side of that story & she is hardly a credible source. Forget that, he is a very troubled young man who needs help & I hope he gets it.
Mike
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I suppose you'll have to look up and listen to her interview yourself. I'm not just making shit up Gipper.
I suppose you'll have to look up and listen to her interview yourself. I'm not just making shit up Gipper.
I am not debating that some person interviewed this chick and is reporting what she said.
Newsflash: The Cleveland Browns just signed the great great grandson of Pancho Villa to play quarterback for them.
I mean....you believe what I am saying, no? I just gave you the report on it. Do you deny my credibilty.
When the police fucking arrest him for this shit.....then and only then am I going to put any credence into any of these so called reports.
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The case she laid out against him left little doubt as to his guilt in the matter.
Yea, and the police dropped it.
Here is a little legal advice that you can pay me for later: SHE does NOT make a case. Prosecutors make cases. Police are witness. Victims are witnesses. They don't make cases. They testify.
Do you not think that the prosecutors in Dallas and Ft. Worth were not consulted in a high profile matter such as this? The County Prosecutor(s) there would have had to OK the "no action" situation that occurred.
They don't believe a word of this so called case that she laid out, apparently.
Unless they decide to do a 180 on their decision.........and then Lucy, they got a lot of splainin' to do. They do anyway.
Yea, and the police dropped it.
Here is a little legal advice that you can pay me for later: SHE does NOT make a case. Prosecutors make cases. Police are witness. Victims are witnesses. They don't make cases. They testify.
Do you not think that the prosecutors in Dallas and Ft. Worth were not consulted in a high profile matter such as this? The County Prosecutor(s) there would have had to OK the "no action" situation that occurred.
They don't believe a word of this so called case that she laid out, apparently.
Unless they decide to do a 180 on their decision.........and then Lucy, they got a lot of splainin' to do. They do anyway.
You're just arguing semantics as you're wont to do often. Yes she's not a lawyer. She's a reporter. And what she REPORTED about him left little doubt in my mind about his guilt in the matter.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Hmmm...Dallas reporter who's covered the Dallas police department for twenty years or retiree argumentative lawyer on internet? I'm going to go with the reporter in this case.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
What a clusterfuck the 22nd pick in the 2014 NFL draft is. Even when the organization is trying to move on they can't. No one could've predicted this shit but EVERYONE knew there were character questions and his abilities were a long shot for the NFL. All in all a typical first round pick by the Browns.
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