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  • The Winston thing is just some fan vote on NFL.com. The Offensive and Defensive are the real awards. He won the Pepsi Rookie of the Year Award (the rookie of the year award that doesn't really count)

  • Z Zombo

    How does Winston win ROY if he wasn't OROY?

    Did he play Special Teams?

    Z

    Zombo said:

    How does Winston win ROY if he wasn't OROY?

    Did he play Special Teams?

    Z

    That was my thought too....doesnt really add up.....

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Zombo said:

    How does Winston win ROY if he wasn't OROY?

    Did he play Special Teams?

    Z

    That was my thought too....doesnt really add up.....

    @mudfly said:

    That was my thought too....doesnt really add up.....

    Sort of like when in MLB the pitcher gets the Cy Young not the MVP?
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  • Could be.....Cam won OPOY and MVP....so I was applying the same logic to the rookie awards.....

  • Um, boo on DeBartolo HOF. His team won a few SBs big whoop. Who's next, Robert Kraft? Just my personal bias. Owners don't really belong- they should have an "Owner'"s section. I'll make a few exceptions- like George Halas and Curly Lambeau.

    At least it's looking like Artie is never gonna get in.

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  • I don't know Warner's stats so I'm not sure if he gets in. Favre deserves HOF on starts alone!

    I was happy with the awards. Cam Newton is awesome! Is there anyone in this draft that could become close to Cam? If so then draft him.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
  • hoortaH hoorta

    Um, boo on DeBartolo HOF. His team won a few SBs big whoop. Who's next, Robert Kraft? Just my personal bias. Owners don't really belong- they should have an "Owner'"s section. I'll make a few exceptions- like George Halas and Curly Lambeau.

    At least it's looking like Artie is never gonna get in.

    @hoorta said:

    Um, boo on DeBartolo HOF. His team won a few SBs big whoop. Who's next, Robert Kraft? Just my personal bias. Owners don't really belong- they should have an "Owner'"s section. I'll make a few exceptions- like George Halas and Curly Lambeau.

    At least it's looking like Artie is never gonna get in.

    Agree, the owners really have no business in the hall unless they did more than just bankroll the team (like George & Curley).

    My biggest bitch with the HOF selection committee is that they are now up to 6 ESPN staffers.

    That's too many members from one network.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
  • hoortaH hoorta

    Um, boo on DeBartolo HOF. His team won a few SBs big whoop. Who's next, Robert Kraft? Just my personal bias. Owners don't really belong- they should have an "Owner'"s section. I'll make a few exceptions- like George Halas and Curly Lambeau.

    At least it's looking like Artie is never gonna get in.

    @hoorta said:

    Um, boo on DeBartolo HOF. His team won a few SBs big whoop. Who's next, Robert Kraft? Just my personal bias. Owners don't really belong- they should have an "Owner'"s section. I'll make a few exceptions- like George Halas and Curly Lambeau.

    Saw a "30 for 30" about DeBartolo and SF and what he did there was magical. All five SF SB victories came under him. Made him worthy in my eyes... one of the few modern-day owners of which I will say that.

    I thought/hoped that between Policy and Clark we had stolen a bit of that magic in our relaunch.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @hoorta said:

    Um, boo on DeBartolo HOF. His team won a few SBs big whoop. Who's next, Robert Kraft? Just my personal bias. Owners don't really belong- they should have an "Owner'"s section. I'll make a few exceptions- like George Halas and Curly Lambeau.

    Saw a "30 for 30" about DeBartolo and SF and what he did there was magical. All five SF SB victories came under him. Made him worthy in my eyes... one of the few modern-day owners of which I will say that.

    I thought/hoped that between Policy and Clark we had stolen a bit of that magic in our relaunch.

    @tour2ma said:

    Saw a "30 for 30" about DeBartolo and SF and what he did there was magical. All five SF SB victories came under him. Made him worthy in my eyes... one of the few modern-day owners of which I will say that.

    I thought/hoped that between Policy and Clark we had stolen a bit of that magic in our relaunch.

    That was NFL Networks A Football Life........I remember thinking when it first aired that it wasn't going to be all that good. Man oh man was I wrong. Magical is a excellent word to described it.
    "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978

  • On the Pro Football Hall of Fame:

    Favre is in because he was one of the greatest.....

    Ken Stabler in in because his numbers (except in one category) are as good as a number who are already in

    Orlando Pace is in because he is one of the greatest.

    Marvin Harrison is in because it was his turn among the great WRs.

    DeBartolo is in because he built a great dynasty. (they let Rooney in for the same reason)

    Kevin Greene is in because his sacks and production numbers are impressive.

    Dick Stanfel is in because he was snubbed many times in his first go round.

    Tony Dungy is in because he is black, well liked and won a Super Bowl.

    T.O is not in because nowadays WRs have a waiting period.....Chris Carter had to wait, Andre Reed had to wait, Tim Brown had to wait, Marvin Harrison had to wait. T.O. will wait, but he will make it.

    Kurt Warner is not in because they couldn't take 3 QBs in a class. They needed to get Stabler in, and Favre was no Brainer first ballot HOF. Warner will get in.

    Morten Andersen didn't get in because he is a kicker....and they just are not sure about him yet.

    Alan Faneca didn't get in because they needed Pace to be the OL to get in, plus Stanfel was also an OL. He will get in.

    Steve Atwater and John Lynch did not get in. They are both former Bronco DBs. They kind of divide the vote...and neither are such a slam dunk.

    Edgerrin James and Terrell Davis are not in because as RBs they were both very good....but not Barry Sanders/LaDanian Tomlinson great. Both will have trouble making it next year as I believe that is when Tomlinson will be eligible.

    Joe Jacoby is not in because, again, I think the voters felt they had their quota of OL with Pace/Stanfel

    Don Coryell is not in because they felt they needed to induct the minority coach.

    Plus....he never did make it to a Super Bowl. That is a strike against him.

  • So embarrassing for the Texans to have a perennial DPOY nominee on their team for 4-5 years. Glad we don't have to put up with anything like that.

  • There's a difference between prolific and great...

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  • No love for Aaron Donald I guess?

  • Not sure how you win ROY but not the O/D ROY to go with it. Same with MVP and O/D PotY, surely if you're the best in the league, you're also the best on the relevant side of the ball?

  • CAm deserved mvp. But I woulda named Antonio Brown OPOY. IMO

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • OPOY?....would that be... Offensive Pressconference Of the Year....?

    cause, apparently, thats whats most important ...

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  • VesnaKociper said:

    Cam Tarkenton - Run, run, lose. Repeat.

    Rodger "the Dodger" Staubach (had his best rushing year the year they won their first SB)

    Steve Young (2nd leading QB rusher of all time ... much more than Tark)

    Russell Wilson (1,388 rushing yards in his two SB season 46-18 with a ring)

    Zombo

  • Z Zombo

    VesnaKociper said:

    Cam Tarkenton - Run, run, lose. Repeat.

    Rodger "the Dodger" Staubach (had his best rushing year the year they won their first SB)

    Steve Young (2nd leading QB rusher of all time ... much more than Tark)

    Russell Wilson (1,388 rushing yards in his two SB season 46-18 with a ring)

    Zombo

    VesnaKociper said:

    Cam Tarkenton - Run, run, lose. Repeat.

    Zombo said:

    Rodger "the Dodger" Staubach (had his best rushing year the year they won their first SB)

    Steve Young (2nd leading QB rusher of all time ... much more than Tark)

    Russell Wilson (1,388 rushing yards in his two SB season 46-18 with a ring)

    Zombo

    I'm so glad we don't have a run first MVP QB that gets us to the superbowl. Soooo much happier with Josh McCown and Austin Davis...

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