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  • broncos red zone offense sucks.

    i'll admit right now though that the panthers would blow the broncos out. if the broncs hold on to win (which i really don't care cuz i despise both teams for different reasons..) game mvp should go to wade phillips. squonked brady and is beating up newton too.

  • Panthers getting caught cheating.

  • I never think the NFL is outright rigged, but this game put a crappy bow on the below average season for refs and a lot of head stratching missed calls.

  • I never think the NFL is outright rigged, but this game put a crappy bow on the below average season for refs and a lot of head stratching missed calls.

    @jrb12711 said:

    I never think the NFL is outright rigged, but this game put a crappy bow on the below average season for refs and a lot of head stratching missed calls

    Could easily have called Cam for intentional grounding a couple of times. & the Refs totally missed a takedown by Carolina's LG.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    I never think the NFL is outright rigged, but this game put a crappy bow on the below average season for refs and a lot of head stratching missed calls

    Could easily have called Cam for intentional grounding a couple of times. & the Refs totally missed a takedown by Carolina's LG.

    @hoorta said:

    Could easily have called Cam for intentional grounding a couple of times. & the Refs totally missed a takedown by Carolina's LG.

    Yeah, just a lot of stuff on both sides I didn't mean to sound biased. The simple truth is that refs are asked to look for way too much than what is humanly possible, and it's leading to tons of missed or bad calls.

  • Looks to me like the Carolina Panthers, as well as some of the bookies and betters, took the Broncos a little too lightly. Seems like they were more concerned with jive dancing and doing the Hokey Pokey after every play than they were getting their asses handed to them by a very good defense.

    WSS

  • When Cam didn't go for the fumble that was the deal breaker.

  • Any qb who fumbles, and doesn't care to man up and get into

    a scramble for said fumble....

    isn't a qb I'd want on my team.

    And, regarding Cam Newton, looking back, I'm impressed that he didn't just jump

    up and down and hold his breath til he passed out, crying over losing the game

    and having a crappy game.

    My guess is, that with all the commercials, the NFL said

    to not call offensive line holding...to make the game not last even longer.

    And the call on the bobbled catch was a good call. He didn't have

    control of it before he hit the ground, nor after.

    Close, real close, but no catch. My buddy who brought some great bbq ribs over, thought it was.

    Talib should have been ejected on that facemask crap. No excuse for that.

  • broncos red zone offense sucks.

    i'll admit right now though that the panthers would blow the broncos out. if the broncs hold on to win (which i really don't care cuz i despise both teams for different reasons..) game mvp should go to wade phillips. squonked brady and is beating up newton too.

    @miktoxic said:

    broncos red zone offense sucks.

    i'll admit right now though that the panthers would blow the broncos out. if the broncs hold on to win (which i really don't care cuz i despise both teams for different reasons..) game mvp should go to wade phillips. squonked brady and is beating up newton too.

    got to give mvp to elway even though he wasn't on the field.. fucking makes me puke to say that but its the truth...didn't he bring in phillips and get those other guys on free agency...again, it makes me puke, but i wish we had someone with football knowledge like elway...I'll bet he didn't use analytics to make those moves....

  • @miktoxic said:

    broncos red zone offense sucks.

    i'll admit right now though that the panthers would blow the broncos out. if the broncs hold on to win (which i really don't care cuz i despise both teams for different reasons..) game mvp should go to wade phillips. squonked brady and is beating up newton too.

    got to give mvp to elway even though he wasn't on the field.. fucking makes me puke to say that but its the truth...didn't he bring in phillips and get those other guys on free agency...again, it makes me puke, but i wish we had someone with football knowledge like elway...I'll bet he didn't use analytics to make those moves....

    @browns52 said:

    got to give mvp to elway even though he wasn't on the field.. fucking makes me puke to say that but its the truth...didn't he bring in phillips and get those other guys on free agency...again, it makes me puke, but i wish we had someone with football knowledge like elway...I'll bet he didn't use analytics to make those moves....

    I would guess that Tom Heckert played a bigger role in bringing in the FA's than Elway.

    Hell it was Heckert that drafted TJ Ward when he was with the Browns.

  • Looks to me like the Carolina Panthers, as well as some of the bookies and betters, took the Broncos a little too lightly. Seems like they were more concerned with jive dancing and doing the Hokey Pokey after every play than they were getting their asses handed to them by a very good defense.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Looks to me like the Carolina Panthers, as well as some of the bookies and betters, took the Broncos a little too lightly. Seems like they were more concerned with jive dancing and doing the Hokey Pokey after every play than they were getting their asses handed to them by a very good defense.

    WSS

    Yep....you're exactly right.

  • VesnaKociper said:

    Cam Tarkenton needs a new offensive line. hey suck. If I were the Pathers I would forget about almost going undefeated and clobbering the Cardinals. THey need to draft MORE OL MORE OL I am telling you, that's the fucking problem.... Ht Offensive line.

    When Cam holds on too long and gets clobbered? Its the OL

    When Cam has explosive performances? It's the OL

    When recievers make great catches? Yep, It's the OL

    Field goal is made? The OL

    Field Goal missed? It's the OL

    Short punt? The OL sucks.

    Interceptions? Its the OL

    The OL is so fucking important, these lard asses are EVERYTHING. It's so simple to see. More lard asses, More Lard asses. 11 OL on the field at the same time. THAT's how the Browns are gonna win it all.

    So true,.. The OL means nothing. Nor a defense.

    To win, all you need is a QB an WRs, so the Browns should use ALL their draft picks on QBs and WRs.

    The ones who don't make it through camp as the starters are turned into OL, since - of course - they don't matter at all - and as others have pointed out, all you really need to do is coach them up properly.

    Others can be turned into DE, DT, LB and CB.

    Because they don't matter either

    And if QB sucks, I have ten more who I can tap to take over.

    Think of the flea flicker plays that could be run, too.

    Plus think of the merchandise they can sell.

    The Browns can win it all by drafting all the QBs and WRs forever, because no one else will have any.

    I mean, WHO can't SEE that?

  • Just saying he seems like a punk before during and after the game.

    Dance and taunt your opponents all season until you get your butt smacked and then pout like a little bitch.

    WSS

  • Lol the Broncos are the ones being punks, talking shit and rubbing it in well after the game is over. Sore winners. The panthers have fun playing the game I don't see the problem with it.

  • Lol the Broncos are the ones being punks, talking shit and rubbing it in well after the game is over. Sore winners. The panthers have fun playing the game I don't see the problem with it.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Lol the Broncos are the ones being punks, talking shit and rubbing it in well after the game is over. Sore winners. The panthers have fun playing the game I don't see the problem with it.

    Didn't look like that much fun after the game, did it? 😉

    WSS

  • Just saying he seems like a punk before during and after the game.

    Dance and taunt your opponents all season until you get your butt smacked and then pout like a little bitch.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Just saying he seems like a punk before during and after the game.

    Dance and taunt your opponents all season until you get your butt smacked and then pout like a little bitch.

    WSS

    Isn't that typical of a person who has known nothing but privilege for a long time?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Just saying he seems like a punk before during and after the game.

    Dance and taunt your opponents all season until you get your butt smacked and then pout like a little bitch.

    WSS

    Isn't that typical of a person who has known nothing but privilege for a long time?

    @the-gipper said:

    Isn't that typical of a person who has known nothing but privilege for a long time?

    Uh, no?

    I would imagine every top notch athlete, I mean the cream of the crop, have been guided through their careers from elementary school through the pros with a golden umbrella.

    As soon as their coaches realize they are destined for greatness.

    And among that group I would say there's a wide variety of behavior.

    WSS

  • @browns52 said:

    got to give mvp to elway even though he wasn't on the field.. fucking makes me puke to say that but its the truth...didn't he bring in phillips and get those other guys on free agency...again, it makes me puke, but i wish we had someone with football knowledge like elway...I'll bet he didn't use analytics to make those moves....

    I would guess that Tom Heckert played a bigger role in bringing in the FA's than Elway.

    Hell it was Heckert that drafted TJ Ward when he was with the Browns.

    @canton-dawg said:

    I would guess that Tom Heckert played a bigger role in bringing in the FA's than Elway.

    Hell it was Heckert that drafted TJ Ward when he was with the Browns.

    Forgot about Heckert.

    Sigh.

    He was here when we signed Jordon Norwood as a udfa from Penn State as well.

    I remember all the guy did was catch the football.

    So he went to Denver, picked off Ward, refound Norwood and won a SB.

    I always liked him in Cleveland, the only guy so far that didn't make a joke out fo the draft when he was here.

    Zombo

  • @canton-dawg said:

    I would guess that Tom Heckert played a bigger role in bringing in the FA's than Elway.

    Hell it was Heckert that drafted TJ Ward when he was with the Browns.

    Forgot about Heckert.

    Sigh.

    He was here when we signed Jordon Norwood as a udfa from Penn State as well.

    I remember all the guy did was catch the football.

    So he went to Denver, picked off Ward, refound Norwood and won a SB.

    I always liked him in Cleveland, the only guy so far that didn't make a joke out fo the draft when he was here.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Forgot about Heckert.

    Sigh.

    He was here when we signed Jordon Norwood as a udfa from Penn State as well.

    I remember all the guy did was catch the football.

    So he went to Denver, picked off Ward, refound Norwood and won a SB.

    I always liked him in Cleveland, the only guy so far that didn't make a joke out fo the draft when he was here.

    Zombo

    Heckert was the best personnel man we had since '99.

    Sure he had a few bad picks (TR and Weeds come to mind) but I would rather have him than the likes of Farmer, Mangini, or Lombardi.

  • @pumpkin-eater said:

    Lol the Broncos are the ones being punks, talking shit and rubbing it in well after the game is over. Sore winners. The panthers have fun playing the game I don't see the problem with it.

    Didn't look like that much fun after the game, did it? 😉

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Didn't look like that much fun after the game, did it? 😉

    WSS

    So what's worse, celebrating touchdowns or intentionally facemasking an opponent to try to hurt an opponent? The Broncos are the punks, they probably intentionally hurt Stewart too.