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  • @gftchris said:

    And isn't that just a little bit depressing...

    I'm used to it. 🙂

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I'm used to it. 🙂

    And therein lies the problem, people have become so anaesthetised to the robotic nature of these debates, pull-cord politicians reciting the same thing over and over, that it's tolerated, even expected. I guess that's one thing we should thank the trump for, at least.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    I'm used to it. 🙂

    And therein lies the problem, people have become so anaesthetised to the robotic nature of these debates, pull-cord politicians reciting the same thing over and over, that it's tolerated, even expected. I guess that's one thing we should thank the trump for, at least.

    Rubio puts me more in mind of

    @gftchris said:

    And therein lies the problem, people have become so anaesthetised to the robotic nature of these debates, pull-cord politicians reciting the same thing over and over, that it's tolerated, even expected. I guess that's one thing we should thank the trump for, at least.

    If you think Trump is pure and genuine look no further than pandering in Iowa with supporting mandates for ethanol an issue that hardly will make America great again. Ethanol mandates do nothing but hurt car engines, drive up food prices and just a government boondoggle. Add to that all the flipping Trump has done on his previous liberal positions and you have the American politician.

  • Rubio puts me more in mind of

    @gftchris said:

    And therein lies the problem, people have become so anaesthetised to the robotic nature of these debates, pull-cord politicians reciting the same thing over and over, that it's tolerated, even expected. I guess that's one thing we should thank the trump for, at least.

    If you think Trump is pure and genuine look no further than pandering in Iowa with supporting mandates for ethanol an issue that hardly will make America great again. Ethanol mandates do nothing but hurt car engines, drive up food prices and just a government boondoggle. Add to that all the flipping Trump has done on his previous liberal positions and you have the American politician.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Rubio puts me more in mind of

    If you think Trump is pure and genuine look no further than pandering in Iowa with supporting mandates for ethanol an issue that hardly will make America great again. Ethanol mandates do nothing but hurt car engines, drive up food prices and just a government boondoggle. Add to that all the flipping Trump has done on his previous liberal positions and you have the American politician.

    I don't think he's pure and genuine - I think he's put the cat firmly among the pigeons when it comes to the debates, though.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Rubio puts me more in mind of

    If you think Trump is pure and genuine look no further than pandering in Iowa with supporting mandates for ethanol an issue that hardly will make America great again. Ethanol mandates do nothing but hurt car engines, drive up food prices and just a government boondoggle. Add to that all the flipping Trump has done on his previous liberal positions and you have the American politician.

    I don't think he's pure and genuine - I think he's put the cat firmly among the pigeons when it comes to the debates, though.

    @gftchris said:

    I don't think he's pure and genuine - I think he's put the cat firmly among the pigeons when it comes to the debates, though.

    Cruz is still the best debater in the field. He had no chance of winning in New Hampshire so he wisely laid off attacking Trump but South Carolina is going to be interesting, the gloves will come off and the debate before the voting in South Carolina will be one to watch. Not a Christie fan but he was a good debater. Bush has gotten a lot better. I don't think Rubio will recover, and Kasich put all his time and resources in New Hampshire to get his second place finish and will have a little momentum going to South Carolina but not all that much. It will be Cruz and Trump and I see it as more of a must win for Cruz.

  • Trump panders, he pandered big time to the evangelicals. He's been consistent on he major stuff though - like immigration, trade, taxes, etc. His notes when he speaks are like 5 words that just tell him what topics to cover though. No rehearsal, no teleprompter - he just writes down like "Clinton Email" and 5 other things, then talks about them from the top of his head.

    Cruz did not make 1 true statement in the last debate. He said behind closed doors he doesn't care about gay marriage.

    They all pander - it's a requirement to get people to vote for you. But I will add, we need to dispel this fiction once and for all that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing.

  • Trump panders, he pandered big time to the evangelicals. He's been consistent on he major stuff though - like immigration, trade, taxes, etc. His notes when he speaks are like 5 words that just tell him what topics to cover though. No rehearsal, no teleprompter - he just writes down like "Clinton Email" and 5 other things, then talks about them from the top of his head.

    Cruz did not make 1 true statement in the last debate. He said behind closed doors he doesn't care about gay marriage.

    They all pander - it's a requirement to get people to vote for you. But I will add, we need to dispel this fiction once and for all that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing.

    @bbedward said:

    Trump panders, he pandered big time to the evangelicals. He's been consistent on he major stuff though - like immigration, trade, taxes, etc. His notes when he speaks are like 5 words that just tell him what topics to cover though. No rehearsal, no teleprompter - he just writes down like "Clinton Email" and 5 other things, then talks about them from the top of his head.

    Cruz did not make 1 true statement in the last debate. He said behind closed doors he doesn't care about gay marriage.

    They all pander - it's a requirement to get people to vote for you. But I will add, we need to dispel this fiction once and for all that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing.

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  • Well, I've decided. I'm voting for Trump in the March Primary.

  • Well, I've decided. I'm voting for Trump in the March Primary.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Well, I've decided. I'm voting for Trump in the March Primary.

    Wow, did *not* see that coming

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Well, I've decided. I'm voting for Trump in the March Primary.

    Wow, did *not* see that coming

    @gftchris said:

    Wow, did *not* see that coming

    I had to meditate for hours before I made my decision.

  • Unfortunately for Rubio now that he has been attacked for being too programmed and robotic every misstep like the video I posted gets magnified 100 times. Really it is no big deal he flubbed a line and they all do it from time to time but Christie has painted a narrative on Rubio that will be hard to overcome now.

  • Trump panders, he pandered big time to the evangelicals. He's been consistent on he major stuff though - like immigration, trade, taxes, etc. His notes when he speaks are like 5 words that just tell him what topics to cover though. No rehearsal, no teleprompter - he just writes down like "Clinton Email" and 5 other things, then talks about them from the top of his head.

    Cruz did not make 1 true statement in the last debate. He said behind closed doors he doesn't care about gay marriage.

    They all pander - it's a requirement to get people to vote for you. But I will add, we need to dispel this fiction once and for all that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing.

    @bbedward said:

    Trump panders, he pandered big time to the evangelicals. He's been consistent on he major stuff though - like immigration, trade, taxes, etc. His notes when he speaks are like 5 words that just tell him what topics to cover though. No rehearsal, no teleprompter - he just writes down like "Clinton Email" and 5 other things, then talks about them from the top of his head.

    Cruz did not make 1 true statement in the last debate. He said behind closed doors he doesn't care about gay marriage.

    They all pander - it's a requirement to get people to vote for you. But I will add, we need to dispel this fiction once and for all that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing.

    I think because we only have two viable parties it forces pandering. For example a fiscally conservative but not social one would have to pander on social issues to get the republican nomination because the republican party is made up of social and fiscal conservatives. Same way with the democrats and Sanders forcing Clinton to go harder to the left to compete. The bases of both parties tend to be more liberal and more conservative than the general electorate. So it is as Nixon said when he ran that the democrats run to the left in their primaries and the republicans run to the right and in the general election they both run to the center.

  • Kasich concerns me because he has done little to quell the heroin epidemic here in Ohio. When you can have it delivered to your door like a pizza is when you really need to take steps to control the problem. I've heard little about it from John.

  • Kasich concerns me because he has done little to quell the heroin epidemic here in Ohio. When you can have it delivered to your door like a pizza is when you really need to take steps to control the problem. I've heard little about it from John.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Kasich concerns me because he has done little to quell the heroin epidemic here in Ohio. When you can have it delivered to your door like a pizza is when you really need to take steps to control the problem. I've heard little about it from John.

    So, it's a different kind of Papa John?

  • It's crazy it's cheap it's dirty and it only takes a kid to be an idiot and try it once and they're hooked.

  • Actually, Kasich has been involved in working against the herion epidemic...

    so much of the drug traffic is freely coming over our "border" with mexico. Obamao

    has official told them to let them come over without being arrested or detained.

    and, the drug cartel channels will be everywhere. and more of them.

    1. earch only for kasich herion epidemic

    1. Gov. Kasich Speaks Out Against Ohio Heroin ...
      www.governor.ohio.gov/Portals/0/07.01.14 State Officials...

      Gov. Kasich Speaks Out Against Ohio Heroin Epidemic Monday, June 30, 2014 By Chris Vanocur COLUMBUS -- Monday, in highly personal and religious terms, Governor John ...

    2. Democrats say Ohio's heroin epidemic should be declared a ...
      www.cleveland.com/.../05/democrats_say_ohios_heroin_epi.html

      House Democrats are calling on Gov. John Kasich to declare a public health emergency forheroin abuse and overdose deaths in Ohio. Here, heroin in its powdered form.

    3. Kasich sends Trumbull County help for heroin ...
      wytv.com/2015/04/13/kasich-sends-trumbull-county-help...

      Gov. John Kasich has heard the cries for help from Trumbull County officials in the wake of nearly a dozen people dying from a dangerous batch of heroin.

      1. Ohio AG creating heroin unit to battle statewide ‘epidemic ...
        www.daytondailynews.com/...has-a-heroin-epidemic-ag.../nbwr7

        Ohio AG creating heroin unit to battle statewide ‘epidemic’ Montgomery County has second highest number of heroin deaths so far in 2013.

      2. Kasich, DeWine Target Heroin Abuse In Ohio |...
        www.10tv.com/content/stories/2014/04/29/oh-heroin...

        Apr 28, 2014 · Kasich, DeWine Target Heroin Abuse In ... can play in fighting the state’sepidemic of heroin abuse. Gov. John Kasich calls the drug problem a ...

  • SO, apparently, despite the crushing victory, Bernie Sanders ends up with, at best, the same number of delegates as Hillary?

    http://usuncut.com/news/the-dnc-superdelegates-just-screwed-over-bernie-sanders-and-spit-in-the-faces-of-voters/

    "The system is rigged" - Bernie Sanders

  • Unfortunately for Rubio now that he has been attacked for being too programmed and robotic every misstep like the video I posted gets magnified 100 times. Really it is no big deal he flubbed a line and they all do it from time to time but Christie has painted a narrative on Rubio that will be hard to overcome now.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    . Really it is no big deal he flubbed a line and they all do it from time to time now.

    Ha ha ha

    Apparently you don't know Obama is a Muslim and thinks there's 57 (or whatever) states.

  • SO, apparently, despite the crushing victory, Bernie Sanders ends up with, at best, the same number of delegates as Hillary?

    http://usuncut.com/news/the-dnc-superdelegates-just-screwed-over-bernie-sanders-and-spit-in-the-faces-of-voters/

    "The system is rigged" - Bernie Sanders

    @gftchris said:

    SO, apparently, despite the crushing victory, Bernie Sanders ends up with, at best, the same number of delegates as Hillary?

    http://usuncut.com/news/the-dnc-superdelegates-just-screwed-over-bernie-sanders-and-spit-in-the-faces-of-voters/

    "The system is rigged" - Bernie Sanders

    Intentionally misleading reporting. When they show you Hillary has way more delegates they want people to give up and think Bernie can't win or he's losing.

    But they are adding "superdelegates" Basically every state has some number of high-ranking members of the democratic party that get to vote at the convention. (Like 700 out of 4700 available delegates are super delegates)

    The reason they don't matter is because they have never affected the the nominee chosen by the popular vote.If Bernie wins the popular vote and gets the most delegates then the superdelegates will mostly fall in line anyway.

    Republicans have the same thing, although they have a lot less of them and it's the same story. They fall in line.

  • @gftchris said:

    SO, apparently, despite the crushing victory, Bernie Sanders ends up with, at best, the same number of delegates as Hillary?

    http://usuncut.com/news/the-dnc-superdelegates-just-screwed-over-bernie-sanders-and-spit-in-the-faces-of-voters/

    "The system is rigged" - Bernie Sanders

    Intentionally misleading reporting. When they show you Hillary has way more delegates they want people to give up and think Bernie can't win or he's losing.

    But they are adding "superdelegates" Basically every state has some number of high-ranking members of the democratic party that get to vote at the convention. (Like 700 out of 4700 available delegates are super delegates)

    The reason they don't matter is because they have never affected the the nominee chosen by the popular vote.If Bernie wins the popular vote and gets the most delegates then the superdelegates will mostly fall in line anyway.

    Republicans have the same thing, although they have a lot less of them and it's the same story. They fall in line.

    @bbedward said:

    Intentionally misleading reporting. When they show you Hillary has way more delegates they want people to give up and think Bernie can't win or he's losing.

    But they are adding "superdelegates" Basically every state has some number of high-ranking members of the democratic party that get to vote at the convention. (Like 700 out of 4700 available delegates are super delegates)

    The reason they don't matter is because they have never affected the the nominee chosen by the popular vote.If Bernie wins the popular vote and gets the most delegates then the superdelegates will mostly fall in line anyway.

    Republicans have the same thing, although they have a lot less of them and it's the same story. They fall in line.

    Fair enough. Explains why I couldn't find much more reporting on it.