Quinn - Why would you bet the future on him?
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Actually i wouldnt bet the teams future on quinn simply because we havent seen him play enough as a pro but if i were mankok and lerner i most certainly wouldnt bet it on cutler especially without giving quinn a shot he is a first rounder that has been patiently waiting 2 years longer then he should have most teams would have started bq right off the bat...
This frickin team owes bq a real chance and owes its fans the right to see for ourselves what the kid has if we trade him and he has some success with denver while we are struggling with our new very slightly improved DA with a real attitude(cutler) i can all but gaurantee mankok isnt going to be around very long and randy will be pressed hard to sell the team..and attending games will be more like a protest of management and ownership then a ballgame..unless the unlikely event of winning with this jerk as our starter actually happens then all would be forgot but i would not take that bet with a handicap..
My take on this whole thing is mankok is playing the game in full and very well and after stating a competition between bq and da will exist they arent going to trade either unless the deal is excessively in our favor...cutler for quinn is not even in our favor as will be seen should that unlikely event somehow happen..
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Quinn should play for the Browns this season for one simple reason:
We drafted him with a first round pick.
I don't care about anything else and -- all of Lum's inane QB comparisons aside -- EVERY first round pick MUST play and be given EVERY chance to justify their draft position.
They all won't succeed but because of the organizational investment, they MUST succeed or fail on the field.
So, IS Quinn the guy? We don't know.
Does Quinn have every possible trait you want in a successful NFL QB? Yes, he does.
Final thought:
The only reason this organization has NOT committed to our first round pick at QB is because of Savage's infatuation with DA. Savage lost objectivity and perspective when it came to DA and because of that he not only clouded the QB waters to this ridiculous point, he lost his job.
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BQ, if I am not mistaken went 2-1 in his 3 NFL starts his 1 loss was due to interception because he had a broken finger. Some may question of the injury but unless you have had a similar injury you really wouldn't understand how weak that finger was due to torn ligaments.
As far as poise and and keeping his head he is a competitor all of us have witnessed that, he has had the training under good coaches coming up through college and there is a reason he was a first round pick. Many beleive or feel he is a Franchise QB. It is his turn to prove to all what he has in his tank and give him this season to show all.
I feel if you give him a RB and 1 or 2 more quality receivers he will become one of the great ones.
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BQ, if I am not mistaken went 2-1 in his 3 NFL starts his 1 loss was due to interception because he had a broken finger. Some may question of the injury but unless you have had a similar injury you really wouldn't understand how weak that finger was due to torn ligaments.
As far as poise and and keeping his head he is a competitor all of us have witnessed that, he has had the training under good coaches coming up through college and there is a reason he was a first round pick. Many beleive or feel he is a Franchise QB. It is his turn to prove to all what he has in his tank and give him this season to show all.
I feel if you give him a RB and 1 or 2 more quality receivers he will become one of the great ones.
BQ, if I am not mistaken went 2-1 in his 3 NFL starts his 1 loss was due to interception because he had a broken finger. Some may question of the injury but unless you have had a similar injury you really wouldn't understand how weak that finger was due to torn ligaments.
As far as poise and and keeping his head he is a competitor all of us have witnessed that, he has had the training under good coaches coming up through college and there is a reason he was a first round pick. Many beleive or feel he is a Franchise QB. It is his turn to prove to all what he has in his tank and give him this season to show all.
I feel if you give him a RB and 1 or 2 more quality receivers he will become one of the great ones.
He went 1-2, Mr. T.
He broke his finger in the first quarter of the Buffalo game (2nd game).
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just a small side note: we should stop using eli manning as an example of a good QB. he sucks now, he's always sucked, and he'll continue to suck as long as he's in the league. if his last name weren't manning, he'd be just another guy who got lucky and rode a hot streak to a super bowl. he can't carry a team, can't elevate other guys' play, and isn't an inspiring leader.
the giants win with the running game and defense, and eli basically has to be competent. he's not a top five QB, likely not even a top 10. eli manning is a shitty, overrated quarterback, and, as browns fans, we all know something, if not a lot, about shitty QBs.
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BQ, if I am not mistaken went 2-1 in his 3 NFL starts his 1 loss was due to interception because he had a broken finger. Some may question of the injury but unless you have had a similar injury you really wouldn't understand how weak that finger was due to torn ligaments.
As far as poise and and keeping his head he is a competitor all of us have witnessed that, he has had the training under good coaches coming up through college and there is a reason he was a first round pick. Many beleive or feel he is a Franchise QB. It is his turn to prove to all what he has in his tank and give him this season to show all.
I feel if you give him a RB and 1 or 2 more quality receivers he will become one of the great ones.
He went 1-2, Mr. T.
He broke his finger in the first quarter of the Buffalo game (2nd game).
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just a small side note: we should stop using eli manning as an example of a good QB. he sucks now, he's always sucked, and he'll continue to suck as long as he's in the league. if his last name weren't manning, he'd be just another guy who got lucky and rode a hot streak to a super bowl. he can't carry a team, can't elevate other guys' play, and isn't an inspiring leader.
the giants win with the running game and defense, and eli basically has to be competent. he's not a top five QB, likely not even a top 10. eli manning is a shitty, overrated quarterback, and, as browns fans, we all know something, if not a lot, about shitty QBs.
just a small side note: we should stop using eli manning as an example of a good QB. he sucks now, he's always sucked, and he'll continue to suck as long as he's in the league. if his last name weren't manning, he'd be just another guy who got lucky and rode a hot streak to a super bowl. he can't carry a team, can't elevate other guys' play, and isn't an inspiring leader.
the giants win with the running game and defense, and eli basically has to be competent. he's not a top five QB, likely not even a top 10. eli manning is a shitty, overrated quarterback, and, as browns fans, we all know something, if not a lot, about shitty QBs.
Exactly! In five seasons this guy has a QB rating of.....76!
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When will you people understand you win with a TEAM
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Having a defense not ranked second to last would have greatly helped BQ (or DA earlier in the season) win the DEN game and probably the HOU game too. We barely lost to Denver when Quinn played great, 100+ passer rating. Toss in a D that can stop a drive or two and that game is ours. The HOU game was very winnable but our D gave up some easy points and our offense couldn't get in the endzone. Quinn with a broken finger was noticeably inaccurate and in pain. DA came in with very little time but laid an egg as his terrible short game showed when a missed toss to Wright turned into a INT with prime field position.
TEAM TEAM TEAM
QBs need players around them and a defense that can stop drives (and sack the Qb haha).
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All the things that make a quarterback a FRANCHISE quarterback: intelligence, poise, leadership, drive, and toughness. We believe Quinn possesses all of those things. The intangible things.
All the things that make a quarterback a FRANCHISE quarterback: intelligence, poise, leadership, drive, and toughness. We believe Quinn possesses all of those things. The intangible things.
Well, you get how many points for poise...?? uhh how many for leadership??..uhh, how many for drive??..uhh..how many for intelligence?...uh...
I believe it's ZERO!!!!!!!!!....what I saw from him is injury prone..already,, can't throw down field, or afraid to squeeze one deep...has to roll out all the time to see over the D-Line...and sulks like a girlscout when he don't get to play.....(Leadership)???...Please...!!
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BQ, if I am not mistaken went 2-1 in his 3 NFL starts his 1 loss was due to interception because he had a broken finger. Some may question of the injury but unless you have had a similar injury you really wouldn't understand how weak that finger was due to torn ligaments.
As far as poise and and keeping his head he is a competitor all of us have witnessed that, he has had the training under good coaches coming up through college and there is a reason he was a first round pick. Many beleive or feel he is a Franchise QB. It is his turn to prove to all what he has in his tank and give him this season to show all.
I feel if you give him a RB and 1 or 2 more quality receivers he will become one of the great ones.
BQ, if I am not mistaken went 2-1 in his 3 NFL starts his 1 loss was due to interception because he had a broken finger.
Actually he went 1-2 and his interceptions were both because he failed to see a defender in the passing lane and threw it anyway. Following those interceptions he was sent back to the bench.
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just a small side note: we should stop using eli manning as an example of a good QB. he sucks now, he's always sucked, and he'll continue to suck as long as he's in the league. if his last name weren't manning, he'd be just another guy who got lucky and rode a hot streak to a super bowl. he can't carry a team, can't elevate other guys' play, and isn't an inspiring leader.
the giants win with the running game and defense, and eli basically has to be competent. he's not a top five QB, likely not even a top 10. eli manning is a shitty, overrated quarterback, and, as browns fans, we all know something, if not a lot, about shitty QBs.
just a small side note: we should stop using eli manning as an example of a good QB. he sucks now, he's always sucked, and he'll continue to suck as long as he's in the league. if his last name weren't manning, he'd be just another guy who got lucky and rode a hot streak to a super bowl. he can't carry a team, can't elevate other guys' play, and isn't an inspiring leader.
the giants win with the running game and defense, and eli basically has to be competent. he's not a top five QB, likely not even a top 10. eli manning is a shitty, overrated quarterback, and, as browns fans, we all know something, if not a lot, about shitty QBs.
I disagree. Manning is better than half the QB's in the league, easy. Is he one of the greats? No.
Is he currently one of the top 15 qb's? Yes.
He has more experience and wins than either of our beloved QB's.
And a ring.
He's a solid QB in a league that currently lacks solid QB's.
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BQ, if I am not mistaken went 2-1 in his 3 NFL starts his 1 loss was due to interception because he had a broken finger.
Actually he went 1-2 and his interceptions were both because he failed to see a defender in the passing lane and threw it anyway. Following those interceptions he was sent back to the bench.
Actually he went 1-2 and his interceptions were both because he failed to see a defender in the passing lane and threw it anyway. Following those interceptions he was sent back to the bench.
Wrong as usual. The one on the slant route is as much BE as Quinn. BE made zero effort to get the inside position on that quick slant, which he has to do on a play like that. On that play you have enough time to only determine zone vs. man presnap.
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AdaM said:
He went 1-2, Mr. T.He broke his finger in the first quarter of the Buffalo game (2nd game).
Thanks I wasn't quite sure without looking it up.
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I swear I say this every day: We have given Quinn three games to prove himself, with a banged up offense and a horrible defense. Give it time.
The city of Cleveland needs a billboard up on the interbelt that says "Patience is a virtue"
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I swear I say this every day: We have given Quinn three games to prove himself, with a banged up offense and a horrible defense. Give it time.
The city of Cleveland needs a billboard up on the interbelt that says "Patience is a virtue"
I swear I say this every day: We have given Quinn three games to prove himself, with a banged up offense and a horrible defense. Give it time.
No matter how many games it goes, as long as he keeps shitting his pants on the field BQ Nation will continue to say that it's too small a sample to determine if he can play.
Ken Dorsey got 3 games. Does he get another shot too?
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Is "1" a difficult number for you to remember?
At which point did you lose count? Let's see.......1 and, where was I again?
This is worse than Flugel proclaiming that BQ threw 6 preseason TDs when he really threw 2.
Actually Quinn over his last two preseasons has 4 TDs, 2 INTs and 1 sack http://www.nfl.com/players/bradyquinn/game...amp;season=2007.
DA over the last two preseasons has 1 TD, 1 INT, a lost fumble, and 4 sacks http://www.nfl.com/players/derekanderson/g...amp;season=2007
You should never bring up preseason performance when trying to prop up DA and disparage Quinn. Because DA has not done better in preseason.
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I swear I say this every day: We have given Quinn three games to prove himself, with a banged up offense and a horrible defense. Give it time.
No matter how many games it goes, as long as he keeps shitting his pants on the field BQ Nation will continue to say that it's too small a sample to determine if he can play.
Ken Dorsey got 3 games. Does he get another shot too?
No matter how many games it goes, as long as he keeps shitting his pants on the field BQ Nation will continue to say that it's too small a sample to determine if he can play.
Ken Dorsey got 3 games. Does he get another shot too?
Guess CLE would be better off to continue letting DA shit his pants every week. Like the back half of 2007 w/ the playoffs on the line, or all of 2008, especially against division foes.
Go look at DA' first 3 NFL starts in 2006 vs. BQs first 3 NFL starts in 2008. Who shit the bed?
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I swear I say this every day: We have given Quinn three games to prove himself, with a banged up offense and a horrible defense. Give it time.
No matter how many games it goes, as long as he keeps shitting his pants on the field BQ Nation will continue to say that it's too small a sample to determine if he can play.
Ken Dorsey got 3 games. Does he get another shot too?
No matter how many games it goes, as long as he keeps shitting his pants on the field BQ Nation will continue to say that it's too small a sample to determine if he can play.
Ken Dorsey got 3 games. Does he get another shot too?
Dorsey had his chances throughout the years before he became a Brown. He came to Cleveland to hold a clipboard...Quinn was drafted to run the offense...
Next pointless comment, lum?
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No matter how many games it goes, as long as he keeps shitting his pants on the field BQ Nation will continue to say that it's too small a sample to determine if he can play.
Ken Dorsey got 3 games. Does he get another shot too?
Guess CLE would be better off to continue letting DA shit his pants every week. Like the back half of 2007 w/ the playoffs on the line, or all of 2008, especially against division foes.
Go look at DA' first 3 NFL starts in 2006 vs. BQs first 3 NFL starts in 2008. Who shit the bed?
Masters said:
Guess CLE would be better off to continue letting DA shit his pants every week. Like the back half of 2007 w/ the playoffs on the line, or all of 2008, especially against division foes.Go look at DA' first 3 NFL starts in 2006 vs. BQs first 3 NFL starts in 2008. Who shit the bed?
With Anderson at QB the Browns won 5 of their last 7 in 2007, including 3 of their last 4. How did BQ do in his games? Might want to ask someone other than Mr T.
And go look at the team's DA's first 3 starts came against. And look who BQ played against.
And go ahead and blow off the KC win that won him the job in the first place, cuz it wasn't a "start".
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