Camp Bosa

Clevfan4life

If you guys paid attention, did you see how active Carolina's DE's are in run defense? Even fucking Allen who's always been primarily a rusher...he's now buckling down and properly holding guys off him and then diving into the play. It makes a difference if a RB has to slough off a big DE on his way through the hole....even just a fraction of a second holdup is all that's needed for these LB'ers these days who all are closing with 4'4-4'5 speed. But if the RB gets through without anyone laying a finger on him, like here in Cleveland.....it makes the LB's job more difficult.

It used to be the edges just had to make sure the run play was funneled inside....but that's not enough anymore. OL's are too athletic these days and get to the 2nd level much faster so the LB's get held up on their way to the hole. That's the problem with our run defense....evne when our edges funnel the runs inside, our LB'ers are just way too slow and often hadn't made the right call on which gap to fill. Talent issue scheme issue...some combination of both I dunno. I just know what i'm seeing out of the best defense's in the NFL and it's guys like Miller and Ware if you're running a 3-4.

Tour2ma

@flyin-j said:

(Bosa on possiilibty of playing in Clevelnad)

"Whoever picks at No. 1, if I am lucky enough to go there, Id be happy. It could be anywhere, Id be happy to go. To get to stay in Ohio and get to have the same fan base Im sure it would be awesome, just to grow my brand in Ohio."

@flyin-j said:
Its a plus for me. Means hes motivated!

Well.... if cultivating one's brand is a coin flip situation, then we are due...

Clevfan4life

i'm kind of digging the shrug life.....

wargograw

@mudfly said:

Well, it was actually a direct stab at the city, not the Browns.....

Well, of course he's changed his tune....it's draft time....gotta say the right things to get elected....

Oh, it's pretty well known that he said it...no question....it was all over the web for a while.....the exact quote was "Cleveland is a run down dirty hole of a city"....

And guys, to be clear, Im not saying dont draft him because he said it.....Im just saying I wish he hadnt, cause for me, taking it back doent change it and I found it to be directly offensive to me and my town.....and Id prefer a player who wants to be here or, at least, has enough class not to speak out like that.....emphasis on "prefer"....

Remember how everyone freaked out last year when DeVonte Parkers mom said stuff?....or Bridgewater?....this is the same thing(but worse)

I like Perry too....always around the ball and...maybe? better than Lee.....

I was referring to the other part of the post I quoted. "Has since said hed love to play for the Browns."

Westside Steve

As far as cleveland being a dump you got to consider the kids in his early twenties. Compare Cleveland to Columbus and Columbus is a much younger more sprawling city, and much less slum area. Lots and lots more bars and restaurants catering to a young crowd.

I'm sure he gives a fuck about Severance Hall, the Cleveland Orchestra or the Museum of Art...

WSS

Comeonman

@westside-steve said:

As far as cleveland being a dump you got to consider the kids in his early twenties. Compare Cleveland to Columbus and Columbus is a much younger more sprawling city, and much less slum area. Lots and lots more bars and restaurants catering to a young crowd.

I'm sure he gives a fuck about Severance Hall, the Cleveland Orchestra or the Museum of Art...

WSS

If the city itself was that big of an issue, Miami would have 20 championships. What the fuck is there to do in Denver or CAR? Are they that attractive?

gftChris

Denver = Weed & Skiing?

Carolina = ...?

The Gipper

@westside-steve said:

As far as cleveland being a dump you got to consider the kids in his early twenties. Compare Cleveland to Columbus and Columbus is a much younger more sprawling city, and much less slum area. Lots and lots more bars and restaurants catering to a young crowd.

I'm sure he gives a fuck about Severance Hall, the Cleveland Orchestra or the Museum of Art...

WSS

Well, OK, perhaps the only life he has been exposed to is the High street college bar scene. (btw, Columbus has its share of slums)

And fyi.....I went to college in Cleveland (law school) and I sure as hell found all the bars I needed to cater to that crowd. And you certainly know from your experience how it used to be. Cleveland had a great young bar scene.

I don't know if that is still true....as I am no longer young and no longer in school.

But then....he won't be that either. He will be a professional...and he will have to act like a professional....and perhaps he will become a married/family man before too long and his priorities will change vastly and quickly.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@comeonman said:
If the city itself was that big of an issue, Miami would have 20 championships. What the fuck is there to do in Denver or CAR? Are they that attractive?

Regardless of what you believe, it still is at least somewhat of an issue.

If everything else were equal, there wouldn't be many who'd choose Cleveland over, say, Miami. Even if it's 1% of a factor, it's still a factor.

The Gipper

@comeonman said:
If the city itself was that big of an issue, Miami would have 20 championships. What the fuck is there to do in Denver or CAR? Are they that attractive?

If slums were an issue he sure would stay away from Miami then.

Charlotte is like Columbus: bland, but based on a nouveau economy.

Mudfly

I hope the last thing our first round pick is worried about is the bar scene.....

The Gipper

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Regardless of what you believe, it still is at least somewhat of an issue.

If everything else were equal, there wouldn't be many who'd choose Cleveland over, say, Miami. Even if it's 1% of a factor, it's still a factor.

Well, here is the deal......he will go where he is drafted. He doesn't have the choice really.

How does he like country music....because to me, 80% says he winds up in Nashville with the Tits. I hope not, but I expect it.

The Gipper

@mudfly said:
I hope the last thing our first round pick is worried about is the bar scene.....

Yea, I think we need someone who will not act like a drunken fool. (even if he is one)

Clevfan4life

@mudfly said:
I hope the last thing our first round pick is worried about is the bar scene.....

kind of a good point.

Westside Steve

@mudfly said:
I hope the last thing our first round pick is worried about is the bar scene.....

Yes but the point being made was that he said that Cleveland was a dump or something like that.

I just pointed out that to a 20-something millionaire Columbus would probably be more fun. Not that Cleveland is barren.

And of course he will play where he gets drafted. He might emulate Joe Thomas and want to be a soul mate of the city and the team. He might be Alex Mack who couldn't give shit number one.

WSS

TexasAg1969

@gftchris said:
Denver = Weed & Skiing?

Mountain hiking (I have been on 95% of the trails in Rocky Mountain National Park), casinos in Blackhawk, Boulder women, big time fishing & hunting and best damn mountain scenery anywhere. And last but not least, a real Superbowl winner. HA!

Mudfly

@westside-steve said:

Yes but the point being made was that he said that Cleveland was a dump or something like that.

I just pointed out that to a 20-something millionaire Columbus would probably be more fun. Not that Cleveland is barren.

And of course he will play where he gets drafted. He might emulate Joe Thomas and want to be a soul mate of the city and the team. He might be Alex Mack who couldn't give shit number one.

WSS

The one good thing is that his brother will be playing here in Ohio for the next few years, so he'll at least have that connection, which I think he'd like.....and even with the comment, for some reason I can see him adapting better than Mack did and starting to feel it if things go well for him......after all, we can create some electricity at Browns stadium, even with a shitty team.....and if he turns out to be a great #1 pick, he will be like a god here.....

The Gipper

@texasag1969 said:

Mountain hiking (I have been on 95% of the trails in Rocky Mountain National Park),

Cleveland has good hiking....not in mountains though. I have been on 95% of the CVNP hiking trails.

casinos in Blackhawk,

Casinos in Northfield.

Boulder women,

All in jeans and flannels and questionable hygiene.

big time fishing

Lake Erie fishing is bigger time. (and even the streams around here have trout. Steelhead?)

& hunting

For certain things perhaps. Lot of deer hunting not far from NEO.

and best damn mountain scenery anywhere.

Not sure about that...very good, but I may go to the Tetons, Lone Pine CA, and North Cascades for equal or better. But sure, very nice.

And last but not least, a real Superbowl winner. HA!

We are not spoiled by victory.

Clevfan4life

@mudfly said:
The one good thing is that his brother will be playing here in Ohio for the next few years, so he'll at least have that connection, which I think he'd like.....and even with the comment, for some reason I can see him adapting better than Mack did and starting to feel it if things go well for him......after all, we can create some electricity at Browns stadium, even with a shitty team.....and if he turns out to be a great #1 pick, he will be like a god here.....

yes he will be a god. One thing I didn't know is that apparently that Cleveland comment was two years ago? Is that true? I thought he had just said it......

Mudfly

Ok...this looks like fun....

@the-gipper said:

@texasag1969 said:

Mountain hiking (I have been on 95% of the trails in Rocky Mountain National Park),

Cleveland has good hiking....not in mountains though. I have been on 95% of the CVNP hiking trails.

Mountain hiking has hills.....screw that....

casinos in Blackhawk,

Casinos in Northfield.

Poker in my basement....better odds and company...

Boulder women,

All in jeans and flannels and questionable hygiene.

Beautiful woman are everywhere

big time fishing

Lake Erie fishing is bigger time. (and even the streams around here have trout. Steelhead?)

Yep...plus, some of the best Steelhead right at the end of my street(Grand River) or my own private stock of Large Mouth and Blue Cats

& hunting

For certain things perhaps. Lot of deer hunting not far from NEO.

Great deer and turkey hunting here....Big game like Bear or Elk?....not so much....

and best damn mountain scenery anywhere.

Not sure about that...very good, but I may go to the Tetons, Lone Pine CA, and North Cascades for equal or better. But sure, very nice.

My last trip to the springs afforded me a great view of the mountains.....burning......

And last but not least, a real Superbowl winner. HA!

We are not spoiled by victory.

Ok....so there's that.....but Elway?....quite a price to pay.....

@clevfan4life said:

yes he will be a god. One thing I didn't know is that apparently that Cleveland comment was two years ago? Is that true? I thought he had just said it......

Yeah...it was just over a year ago, during his freshman season....I plan to let him off the hook IF we draft him.....