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  • @unsympathetic said:

    Although I agree we should ask Jackson, I'd rather go for Damon Harrison. Harrison has been one of the best interior run defenders in the league recently, and him next to Shelton would not only free up our pick to be the QB, it would also solidify the DL to actualize what we've told ourselves it would be each of the last 2 offseasons.

    Jackson made a ton of money with his play in the SB.. I bet Harrison is cheaper for more run-stopping performance. Plus, Shelton at NT eating double-teams will free up Harrison. Those two plus the Bryant who isn't a felon seems a pretty potent group.

    yeah but think about adding a Bosa or Buckner to that group...now you've got the makings of a potentially elite defensive front for years to come.

    @clevfan4life said:

    yeah but think about adding a Bosa or Buckner to that group...now you've got the makings of a potentially elite defensive front for years to come.

    If we're making the elusive "move to a 4-3" then yes. I don't think so, though.. Bryant the More Expensive was an expensive buy from the Raiders a couple years ago, and all the talk of "hybrid" seems more of a bizarre hypothesis in some now-fired coaches head rather than a roster reality.

  • @the-gipper said:

    FYI, I have been in the middle of a place where they exploded an atomic bomb.

    My Dad flew a bomber that carried Atomic bombs before we had missiles(60's cold war).....so he spent most of his AF time up in the air flying "alert" , just in case......here to Spain and back again....over and over and over....always thought that was kinda cool, though Im not sure Id want to be anywhere near a place one of them blew up.....even years later....

    @mudfly said:

    My Dad flew a bomber that carried Atomic bombs before we had missiles(60's cold war).....so he spent most of his AF time up in the air flying "alert" , just in case......here to Spain and back again....over and over and over....always thought that was kinda cool, though Im not sure Id want to be anywhere near a place one of them blew up.....even years later....

    I have been to the Trinity Site where the very first atom bomb was exploded. I have not noticed that I glow in the dark.

    First_atomic_explosion.jpg

  • zero.jpg

    As it looks today. This is not my photo, but I took one like it.

  • And this casing for the first a-bomb was made only blocks from where I now sit:

    Trinity_Site_-_Remnants_of_Jumbo_-_2010.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Was hoping to see Slim riding that bomb.... 😉

    600full-dr.-strangelove-or-how-i-learned

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Was hoping to see Slim riding that bomb.... 😉

    600full-dr.-strangelove-or-how-i-learned

    @mudfly said:

    Was hoping to see Slim riding that bomb.... 😉

    600full-dr.-strangelove-or-how-i-learned

    LOL! 😁

  • To soon to tell if the FO was paying attention but we can hope. Personally I think we could improve everywhere on the roster and every little improvement will help. The only problem with drafting is you just have to guess how all of them will transition to the pros. With free agents you just have to guess how they will transition from one system to another so free agency is not as big of a gamble.

  • To soon to tell if the FO was paying attention but we can hope. Personally I think we could improve everywhere on the roster and every little improvement will help. The only problem with drafting is you just have to guess how all of them will transition to the pros. With free agents you just have to guess how they will transition from one system to another so free agency is not as big of a gamble.

    @joedawg69 said:

    To soon to tell if the FO was paying attention but we can hope. Personally I think we could improve everywhere on the roster and every little improvement will help. The only problem with drafting is you just have to guess how all of them will transition to the pros. With free agents you just have to guess how they will transition from one system to another so free agency is not as big of a gamble.

    Id agree that FA is less of a gamble.....or, at least, should be.....BUT, if you make huge assumptions, then it can be trouble...

    Examples: Assuming that a Housler can become something he never was......or.....Assuming that an old guy like Bowe would suddenly return to the form he had several years before.....

    Those are gambles teams shouldnt take.....and the reason is that they aren't getting paid rookie money while we find out....

  • The other thing is motivation. There are guys whose chief motivation was the $$ AFTER that initial rookie contract, so they played their asses off early on to reach that pot of gold. Those guys whose chief motivation was MONEY (rather than pride and/or love of the game) are the ones who may go in the tank once they get the $$. Identifying them will be huge. I guess we'll just have to wait & see.

    Mike

  • Right Mike....its hard to know what any of their motivations are.....thats why I like obvious football players and high character guys.....its a little easier that way...

  • Why don't we hire John Elway then?

    @opal312 said:

    Why don't we hire John Elway then?

    probably should...but he has the making of more sb appearances in his future with the broncos..they already have a pretty damn good replacement for peyton..we, we don't have shit...on both sides of the ball...

  • The club has two-plus months to set a draft board, work the combine and rejoin the NFL tradition of attending college "pro days," which former GM Ray Farmer seemed to give up for Lent.


    Above is an excerpt from: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/the_position_the_cleveland_bro.html

    I did not realize we had essentially stopped attending ProDays...
  • well then let's hope shady grady and his analytic team can do better than farmer and pettine who drafted D heavy for the last 2 years and got what out of it?????? man i've preached D since the time i've joined this board and it';s absolutely done nothing except keep them on the field longer because the offense is so inept.

    franchise QB first pick i don't give a fuck what people say. yeah broncos won the super bowl and their d was the major reason why but could you see a manziel leading that team to victory? hells fucking no. someone old with brains who knew when to sit down and hand off was an also big contributor to their win.

    and then there's the balls in her face. oooops!

  • The club has two-plus months to set a draft board, work the combine and rejoin the NFL tradition of attending college "pro days," which former GM Ray Farmer seemed to give up for Lent.


    Above is an excerpt from: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/the_position_the_cleveland_bro.html

    I did not realize we had essentially stopped attending ProDays...

    @tour2ma said:

    The club has two-plus months to set a draft board, work the combine and rejoin the NFL tradition of attending college "pro days," which former GM Ray Farmer seemed to give up for Lent.

    Above is an excerpt from: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/the_position_the_cleveland_bro.html

    I did not realize we had essentially stopped attending ProDays...

    We didnt.....except for Manziels, which they have been screaming about ever since.....but, unless he was drunk, it wouldnt have mattered.....

  • Did they not also skip the Teddy Twatwater pro day?

  • @tour2ma said:

    The club has two-plus months to set a draft board, work the combine and rejoin the NFL tradition of attending college "pro days," which former GM Ray Farmer seemed to give up for Lent.

    Above is an excerpt from: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/the_position_the_cleveland_bro.html

    I did not realize we had essentially stopped attending ProDays...

    We didnt.....except for Manziels, which they have been screaming about ever since.....but, unless he was drunk, it wouldnt have mattered.....

    @mudfly said:

    We didnt.....except for Manziels, which they have been screaming about ever since.....but, unless he was drunk, it wouldnt have mattered.....

    We were at JM's... in force as I recall.

    I remember watching it live... and in color...

    I learned to never consider a QB who does his Pro-Day in his helmet...

  • @mudfly said:

    We didnt.....except for Manziels, which they have been screaming about ever since.....but, unless he was drunk, it wouldnt have mattered.....

    We were at JM's... in force as I recall.

    I remember watching it live... and in color...

    I learned to never consider a QB who does his Pro-Day in his helmet...

    @tour2ma said:

    We were at JM's... in force as I recall.

    I remember watching it live... and in color...

    I learned to never consider a QB who does his Pro-Day in his helmet...

    Nope....skipped his pro day, as well as Bortles and Bridgewaters....apparently every team in the league was there, except us and Chicago......though we did have a private work out with him.....million articles on it...here's one...

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10807688/johnny-manziel-work-cleveland-browns

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2014/03/27/johnny-manziel-pro-day-texas-a-and-m/6965477/

  • OK... another brain cell for the bin...

  • Ha!....the same thing happened last year with Mariota, but if you remember OConnell worked closely with both Johnny and Mariota during their prep for the draft....and I think the Browns may have relied upon him for feedback.....though, that didnt limit the criticism of Farmer for not attending those pro days....

    The good news is that Hue has already met with a couple of the QB's at the senior bowl and I d expect more of the same to happen at Pro days and the combine.....