cutler to the bears!
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Makes for a very interesting Draft...sweepstakes for sanchez now...Denver trades #12 and #18 to Cleveland for #5 pick....weeeeeeeeeeee
Rey rey rey rey
and beanie !!!!!!!Makes for a very interesting Draft...sweepstakes for sanchez now...Denver trades #12 and #18 to Cleveland for #5 pick....weeeeeeeeeeee
Rey rey rey rey
and beanie !!!!!!!there will never be anyone who trades 2 mid first round picks for the 5th overall. it will never happen. i also still stand by the fact that i wouldn't take beanie for anything before the 3rd round. he won't be that good of an nfl running back
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there is no way in hell cutler is worth 2 1st round picks and a qb. that is absolutely absurd. not only has cutler never been to the playoffs, but he has a below .500 record. this is ridiculous.
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this was a best case scenario for the Browns. It takes Cutler off the market for a team that wasn't really in the running for EITHER DA or BQ....and therefore leaves teams like the Jets looking for a QB...and if they want a veteran QB they have to come to us now.
I love it...and it offsets the poor trade value that Cassel had previously set...so the value of our QB's has just increased without losing out on a trade partner.
LOVE IT!!!
this was a best case scenario for the Browns. It takes Cutler off the market for a team that wasn't really in the running for EITHER DA or BQ....and therefore leaves teams like the Jets looking for a QB...and if they want a veteran QB they have to come to us now.
I love it...and it offsets the poor trade value that Cassel had previously set...so the value of our QB's has just increased without losing out on a trade partner.
LOVE IT!!!
i completely agree. da's stock just went up.
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Makes for a very interesting Draft...sweepstakes for sanchez now...Denver trades #12 and #18 to Cleveland for #5 pick....weeeeeeeeeeee
Rey rey rey rey
and beanie !!!!!!!there will never be anyone who trades 2 mid first round picks for the 5th overall. it will never happen. i also still stand by the fact that i wouldn't take beanie for anything before the 3rd round. he won't be that good of an nfl running back
there will never be anyone who trades 2 mid first round picks for the 5th overall. it will never happen. i also still stand by the fact that i wouldn't take beanie for anything before the 3rd round. he won't be that good of an nfl running back
I can dream bro!!!!
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Now maybe we can start a rumor that the Broncos want to give us Orton and a #1 for Quinn. Hell, everybody wants to keep thinking Mangini isn't crazy abbout him.
But, Orton would most likely beat out DA.
Now maybe we can start a rumor that the Broncos want to give us Orton and a #1 for Quinn. Hell, everybody wants to keep thinking Mangini isn't crazy abbout him.
Well, this suggests that those reports are accurate:
Sources: Browns, ‘Skins Were In The Hunt
The Washington Redskins and Cleveland Browns were both major players in the race to acquire former Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler, sources have informed the National Football Post.
While the Bears won the Cutler sweepstakes, we have heard that the Browns and Redskins were in the hunt until the end, ultimately losing out when Chicago offered two first-round picks, in addition to quarterback Kyle Orton.
More on this story as it develops.
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I think the Bears gave up a TON to get Cutler. Yes they need a franchise QB and Cutler may be the guy but two first round picks a 3rd and Orton? Cutler hasn't exactly won anything or showed that he's a winner. I'm not saying that he isn't and that he won't help the Bears but those 2 firsts and a 3rd sure as hell would have helped as well. However with that being said I'd definitely want a lot for Bi.g Ben but then again he has two super bowls under his belt and has a proven track record of winning football games. I think the Broncos made out like bandits on this trade. They can draft two solid prospects this year in the first round and Orton at the very least will be decent. I guess in the end it all works out....3 first day picks and a decent QB for Cutler? hmmmmm no shanks.
EDIT: Can we turn off the Big Gay Ben thing? I'm sure everyone is aware that when discussing Ben Wallace it does the same?
2nd EDIT: Upon further review it appears I'm not alone. Crazy, crazy trade for the Bears.
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The reaction is pretty strange....we essentially used two first rounders and a 2nd rounder to get Quinn. Cutler's a proven star and suddenly 2 firsts and a third is "way too much for anyone." Unless you think Kyle Orton is a real difference maker.
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The reaction is pretty strange....we essentially used two first rounders and a 2nd rounder to get Quinn. Cutler's a proven star and suddenly 2 firsts and a third is "way too much for anyone." Unless you think Kyle Orton is a real difference maker.
The reaction is pretty strange....we essentially used two first rounders and a 2nd rounder to get Quinn. Cutler's a proven star and suddenly 2 firsts and a third is "way too much for anyone." Unless you think Kyle Orton is a real difference maker.
Only used ONE 1st and a 2nd, essentially or otherwise. Used the 2008 1st to get an extra 1st in 2007, at the cost of a 2nd round pick in 2007.
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yea but we did not give up a player too, and besides he maybe proven but I don't like his handling of it all. I have no problem with him requesting a trade it is everything else that I don't like on how he handled everything else.
We did not use 2 first rounders on Quinn, we swapped first rounders from one year to the next. (so in two years we still had 2 first rounders just in the same year) and gave up a 2nd for the swap so we only really gave up a 2nd rounder.
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ah true enough. I thought I was smarter than I actually am for a second.
All the same, we used a first and second for Quinn, who I like too but still hasn't done anything and is still unproven. Jay Cutler is a proven franchise QB the Bears needed anyway, easily worth a first and third to me. Then you're really just giving up a future 1st rounder, which will be in the 20s.
I don't know. Doesn't seem like a crazy trade at all for me, especially since I'm not a fan at all of Orton, and a big fan of Cutler.
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but they gave up 2 firsts for him, and a third round pick and Orton to Denver for Cutler according to NFl.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true
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New home Chicago: Broncos ship disgruntled QB Cutler to Bears
NFL.com Wire Reports
The Denver Broncos announced Thursday that they have agreed to trade disgruntled quarterback Jay Cutler to the Chicago Bears.
Jay Cutler, QB
Denver Broncos
2008 Statistics
Passer Rating: 86.0
Passing Yards: 4,526
TDs/INTs: 25/18
NFL.com's Steve Wyche reports that the Broncos will receive first-round draft picks this year and in 2010, a third-round pick (84th overall) this year and quarterback Kyle Orton in exchange for Cutler and a 2009 fifth-round selection.
The Broncos were trading Cutler on his terms, and there was no shortage of teams lining up to take a crack at acquiring the 25-year-old Pro Bowl passer.
Cutler had asked for a trade last month after his relationship with new coach Josh McDaniels soured. Their relationship began to disintegrate when McDaniels broached a potential trade of Cutler for Matt Cassel earlier this offseason.
McDaniels and Cutler likely will see each other again on Aug. 30, when the Broncos host the Bears in a preseason game.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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O and looks like Chicago got a 5th for Orton basically.
http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=5699
Bears trade for quarterback Jay Cutler
By: Larry Mayer | Last Updated: 4/2/2009 5:34 PM
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LAKE FOREST, Ill. – Not only were the Bears involved in the Jay Cutler derby, but they won it.
The Bears pulled off a blockbuster trade Thursday, boldly acquiring Pro Bowl quarterback Jay Cutler and a 2009 fifth-round draft pick (140th overall) in exchange for quarterback Kyle Orton and three draft picks: a first-rounder (18th) and third-rounder (84th) in 2009 and a first-rounder in 2010.
Cutler, 25, played his first three NFL seasons with the Broncos after arriving as the 11th overall pick in the 2006 draft. In his first full season as a starter in 2007, he completed 63.6 percent of his passes for 3,497 yards with 20 touchdowns, 14 interceptions and an 88.1 passer rating.
Cutler was voted to the Pro Bowl in 2008 after connecting on 62.3 percent of his passes for 4,526 yards with 25 TDs, 18 interceptions and an 86.0 rating. By comparison, the Bears’ single-season record for passing yards is 3,838, set by Erik Kramer in 1995.
Cutler grew up as a Bears fan in Santa Claus, Ind., and will be reunited in Chicago with two former Vanderbilt teammates, wide receiver Earl Bennett and offensive tackle Chris Williams. Cutler thinks so much of Bennett that he returned to Vanderbilt to throw to the receiver during Bennett’s Pro Day workout a year ago.
Cutler apparently was upset when the Broncos fired head coach Mike Shanahan and even more angry when he found out that Shanahan’s replacement, Josh McDaniels, was attempting to trade for Patriots quarterback Matt Cassel.
The Redskins, Jets, Buccaneers and 49ers were believed to be the frontrunners in the Cutler derby, but it was the Bears who landed the promising young quarterback in what is undoubtedly the boldest move that Jerry Angelo has made since becoming general manager in 2001.
Stay logged onto ChicagoBears.com for continuing coverage throughout the night.
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and from the Denver homepage
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=3...mp;storyID=8930
Cutler Traded to Chicago Bears
Updated 4:41 p.m. MDT
The Denver Broncos have agreed in principle to trade quarterback Jay Cutler to the Chicago Bears. Terms of the deal will be disclosed at a later time.
It has been reported that the Broncos will receive a first-round pick in 2009, a third-round pick in 2009, a first-round pick in 2010 and quarterback Kyle Orton in return for Cutler and a fifth-round pick in 2009, though nothing has been officially announced.
In 33 career starts, Orton has compiled a record of 21-12, including a record of 15-2 in home games.
If the reports are correct, the Broncos will have the following picks in the upcoming NFL Draft:
1-12-12 Denver
1-18-18 Denver (from Chicago)
2-16-48 Denver
3-15-79 Denver
3-20-84 Denver (from Chicago)
4-14-114 Denver
5-13-149 Denver
6-12-185 Denver
7-16-225 Denver
7-26-235 Denver (from Atlanta)
It would also mean that over the next two NFL Drafts, the Broncos will have nine picks in the first three rounds.
Check back with DenverBroncos.com for updates.
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The reaction is pretty strange....we essentially used two first rounders and a 2nd rounder to get Quinn. Cutler's a proven star and suddenly 2 firsts and a third is "way too much for anyone." Unless you think Kyle Orton is a real difference maker.
The reaction is pretty strange....we essentially used two first rounders and a 2nd rounder to get Quinn. Cutler's a proven star and suddenly 2 firsts and a third is "way too much for anyone." Unless you think Kyle Orton is a real difference maker.
I agree.
The disturbing part is Denver opted for Orton over Quinn.
That doesn't make me feel good.
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it was not Orton over Quinn it was the 2 first rounders and the third rounder that did it, they basically gave a 5th rounder to Chicago for Quinn, or a third rounder if you want to be nicer, neither of which I would have taken for Quinn, even with Cutler coming here.
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Hell I would take a 2nd this year and call it good.
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The reaction is pretty strange....we essentially used two first rounders and a 2nd rounder to get Quinn. Cutler's a proven star and suddenly 2 firsts and a third is "way too much for anyone." Unless you think Kyle Orton is a real difference maker.
I agree.
The disturbing part is Denver opted for Orton over Quinn.
That doesn't make me feel good.
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mz. said:
It's not that simple. There is no way we'd give them Quinn and all of those picks, as CHI did with Orton. Clearly Denver wanted picks.Understood. If it was Quinn and all those picks I'd call it a ridiculous trade. But Orton is pretty much worthless to me, you can easily pick up another guy like him in the late rounds. When I say it's basically just giving up a future first rounder in the 20s....that's me saying this year's 1st and 3rd is completely reasonable for a player like Cutler. You're just surrendering next year's pick where you might or might not get an impact player that late.
I can see how the draftniks are blown away by it, but I'll take proven stars (at a premium position) for late 1sts any day.
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