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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    I don't think 'cheesed off' is a saying over there, but it would be perfect. Shame he's just a LS, can't take advantage or be blamed for a 'swiss cheese D'

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #39

    @gftchris said:

    I don't think 'cheesed off' is a saying over there, but it would be perfect. Shame he's just a LS, can't take advantage or be blamed for a 'swiss cheese D'

    Do you like my use of it for the Harbaugh/SEC thread? 😉

  • W wargograw

    Don't think we've had a worse recruiting class than TCU in my entire lifetime. So, clearly not. Troll better next time.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #40

    @wargograw said:

    Don't think we've had a worse recruiting class than TCU in my entire lifetime. So, clearly not. Troll better next time.

    Maybe not a better recruiting class....but TCU has had the better teams for like a decade or more now.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @wargograw said:

    Don't think we've had a worse recruiting class than TCU in my entire lifetime. So, clearly not. Troll better next time.

    Maybe not a better recruiting class....but TCU has had the better teams for like a decade or more now.

    W wargograw wrote on
    #41

    @the-gipper said:

    Maybe not a better recruiting class....but TCU has had the better teams for like a decade or more now.

    I know, but that's irrelevant to the context here. If anything, it only serves to show un"attractive" TCU is since they've had such good teams and still can't get tier 1 guys.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #42

    TCU was also in a worse conference on average over those 10 years

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • W wargograw

    Don't think we've had a worse recruiting class than TCU in my entire lifetime. So, clearly not. Troll better next time.

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #43

    @wargograw said:

    Don't think we've had a worse recruiting class than TCU in my entire lifetime. So, clearly not. Troll better next time.

    Recruiting rankings are completely overblown. Evaluating high school talent is more difficult than college and we see how well professionals do in the NFL draft. You can hold your head high that A&M has good recruiting numbers through rivals but the fact of the matter is they have rarely been a national contender with and without Kevin Sumlin. They finished inside the top 10 in the AP poll once in 20 years, oh by the way that was under Kevin Sumlin. TCU has finished in the top 10 in the AP poll 5 times in the last 10 years. Gary Patterson so awesome every NFL team wanted him this year.

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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    TCU was also in a worse conference on average over those 10 years

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #44

    @mld-woody said:

    TCU was also in a worse conference on average over those 10 years

    Beat Oregon, Ole Miss and Wisconsin in Bowl Games over that time.

  • B BaconHound

    @wargograw said:

    Don't think we've had a worse recruiting class than TCU in my entire lifetime. So, clearly not. Troll better next time.

    Recruiting rankings are completely overblown. Evaluating high school talent is more difficult than college and we see how well professionals do in the NFL draft. You can hold your head high that A&M has good recruiting numbers through rivals but the fact of the matter is they have rarely been a national contender with and without Kevin Sumlin. They finished inside the top 10 in the AP poll once in 20 years, oh by the way that was under Kevin Sumlin. TCU has finished in the top 10 in the AP poll 5 times in the last 10 years. Gary Patterson so awesome every NFL team wanted him this year.

    W wargograw wrote on
    #45

    @baconhound said:

    Recruiting rankings are completely overblown. Evaluating high school talent is more difficult than college and we see how well professionals do in the NFL draft. You can hold your head high that A&M has good recruiting numbers through rivals but the fact of the matter is they have rarely been a national contender with and without Kevin Sumlin. They finished inside the top 10 in the AP poll once in 20 years, oh by the way that was under Kevin Sumlin. TCU has finished in the top 10 in the AP poll 5 times in the last 10 years. Gary Patterson so awesome every NFL team wanted him this year.

    Let's just put it this way (and recall "unattractive" was the word YOU chose):

    A&M has landed more prospects with TCU offers than vice versa every year either of us have been alive.

  • Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on
    #46

    Rename the thread " Michigan lands best recruit in the country after stringing a half dozen recruits along and telling them to get fucked at the last second."

  • Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on
    #47

    Did anyone catch the Michigan vs Ohio state men's basketball score by chance?

  • B BaconHound

    @wargograw said:

    Don't think we've had a worse recruiting class than TCU in my entire lifetime. So, clearly not. Troll better next time.

    Recruiting rankings are completely overblown. Evaluating high school talent is more difficult than college and we see how well professionals do in the NFL draft. You can hold your head high that A&M has good recruiting numbers through rivals but the fact of the matter is they have rarely been a national contender with and without Kevin Sumlin. They finished inside the top 10 in the AP poll once in 20 years, oh by the way that was under Kevin Sumlin. TCU has finished in the top 10 in the AP poll 5 times in the last 10 years. Gary Patterson so awesome every NFL team wanted him this year.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #48

    @baconhound said:

    Recruiting rankings are completely overblown. Evaluating high school talent is more difficult than college and we see how well professionals do in the NFL draft. You can hold your head high that A&M has good recruiting numbers through rivals but the fact of the matter is they have rarely been a national contender with and without Kevin Sumlin. They finished inside the top 10 in the AP poll once in 20 years, oh by the way that was under Kevin Sumlin. TCU has finished in the top 10 in the AP poll 5 times in the last 10 years. Gary Patterson so awesome every NFL team wanted him this year.

    People saying recruiting rankings are overblown is overblown.

    Yes, there are exceptions, but on average I'd rather have a 4* than 3*

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @baconhound said:

    Recruiting rankings are completely overblown. Evaluating high school talent is more difficult than college and we see how well professionals do in the NFL draft. You can hold your head high that A&M has good recruiting numbers through rivals but the fact of the matter is they have rarely been a national contender with and without Kevin Sumlin. They finished inside the top 10 in the AP poll once in 20 years, oh by the way that was under Kevin Sumlin. TCU has finished in the top 10 in the AP poll 5 times in the last 10 years. Gary Patterson so awesome every NFL team wanted him this year.

    People saying recruiting rankings are overblown is overblown.

    Yes, there are exceptions, but on average I'd rather have a 4* than 3*

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #49

    @mld-woody said:

    People saying recruiting rankings are overblown is overblown.

    Yes, there are exceptions, but on average I'd rather have a 4* than 3*

    Worked well for Michigan Pre-Harbaugh

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #50

    "there are exceptions"

    And of course coaching matters

    But its been shown repeatedly there is merit to the ranking system

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    "there are exceptions"

    And of course coaching matters

    But its been shown repeatedly there is merit to the ranking system

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #51

    @mld-woody said:

    "there are exceptions"

    And of course coaching matters

    But its been shown repeatedly there is merit to the ranking system

    I'm a firm believer football is played on a field, not on paper.

  • B BaconHound

    @mld-woody said:

    "there are exceptions"

    And of course coaching matters

    But its been shown repeatedly there is merit to the ranking system

    I'm a firm believer football is played on a field, not on paper.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #52

    @baconhound said:

    I'm a firm believer football is played on a field, not on paper.

    and i am a firm believer in statistics

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • W wargograw wrote on
    #53

    How many different arguments has BaconHound lost in this one thread alone?

  • W wargograw

    How many different arguments has BaconHound lost in this one thread alone?

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #54

    @wargograw said:

    How many different arguments has BaconHound lost in this one thread alone?

    Enjoy you're great recruiting class, 8-5 season, Chick-Fil-A Bowl loss & hiring the next guy not to win at A&M.

    BTW thanks for the QB, OU likes depth.

  • W wargograw wrote on
    #55

    My name's BaconHound. I say dumb stuff then just switch it up when I get completely embarrassed on said dumb stuff.

  • W wargograw

    My name's BaconHound. I say dumb stuff then just switch it up when I get completely embarrassed on said dumb stuff.

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #56

    @wargograw said:

    My name's BaconHound. I say dumb stuff then just switch it up when I get completely embarrassed on said dumb stuff.

    Nice! Resisted the my dad can beat up your dad argument.

    If Woody and you believe that recruiting ranking dictates college football success than so be it.

    If you think A&M has been a better college football program than TCU over the last 10 years, that's your opinion.

    Professionals evaluating 21 & 22 year olds for the NFL who have been adequately assessed on the field, on tape and at the combine are about as accurate as a coin flip but people can believe college coaches can see the talent in 17 year olds throughout the entire country.

    Now I never made the argument that recruiting isn't important or that coaching isn't important but that no one aspect overwhelms the other.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #57

    Again, statistics do not support you here.

    and "dictates college football success" was a phrase I never used

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • W wargograw wrote on
    #58

    Where did I say we've been the better program? Nowhere. You said TCU was more attractive. Recruiting has disproved that. Now you're arguing against things I never said. Simple as that.

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