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  • Goff might be deemed more "ready to play" at this point than Cardale Jones, but even with mistakes, all Cardale did was just win, baby. A lot of people touted "pro style, ready to play" Brady Quinn, who couldn't unseat erratic journeyman Derrick Anderbilly.

    If Bosa is there when they pick at #2 oal, Bosa should be the Browns pick. Much more of a difference maker than Goff. The Browns need a difference maker on the Defense.

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  • mohicanM mohican

    Goff might be deemed more "ready to play" at this point than Cardale Jones, but even with mistakes, all Cardale did was just win, baby. A lot of people touted "pro style, ready to play" Brady Quinn, who couldn't unseat erratic journeyman Derrick Anderbilly.

    If Bosa is there when they pick at #2 oal, Bosa should be the Browns pick. Much more of a difference maker than Goff. The Browns need a difference maker on the Defense.

    @mohican said:

    If Bosa is there when they pick at #2 oal, Bosa should be the Browns pick. Much more of a difference maker than Goff. The Browns need a difference maker on the Defense.

    That is not the Browns way. First hire new staff. 2nd talk about the new QB to be taken high in the draft before any analysis is completed. 3rd spend two years in the cellar and still have no QB. 4th fire "old" staff. 5th talk about how wonderful the new changes are going to be under a new staff and that ticket prices will stay the same (for now).

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  • Not having your QB is a problem that requires much more attention than if you are missing a pass rusher. Bosa is not J.J. Watt or Von Miller. It is rare that a pass rusher is more of a difference maker than a quality QB. Both positions are important but being able to move the ball and put points on the board is more important.

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    Not having your QB is a problem that requires much more attention than if you are missing a pass rusher. Bosa is not J.J. Watt or Von Miller. It is rare that a pass rusher is more of a difference maker than a quality QB. Both positions are important but being able to move the ball and put points on the board is more important.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Not having your QB is a problem that requires much more attention than if you are missing a pass rusher. Bosa is not J.J. Watt or Von Miller. It is rare that a pass rusher is more of a difference maker than a quality QB. Both positions are important but being able to move the ball and put points on the board is more important.

    Well our latest FO would be putting all their eggs in the QB basket. Hasn't worked yet and frankly I just don't see the QB in this draft. If they take one I certainly hope I'm 100% wrong.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Not having your QB is a problem that requires much more attention than if you are missing a pass rusher. Bosa is not J.J. Watt or Von Miller. It is rare that a pass rusher is more of a difference maker than a quality QB. Both positions are important but being able to move the ball and put points on the board is more important.

    Well our latest FO would be putting all their eggs in the QB basket. Hasn't worked yet and frankly I just don't see the QB in this draft. If they take one I certainly hope I'm 100% wrong.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well our latest FO would be putting all their eggs in the QB basket. Hasn't worked yet and frankly I just don't see the QB in this draft. If they take one I certainly hope I'm 100% wrong.

    I would trust that if anyone can evaluate and develop a QB it would be Jackson. If we pick someone up in free agency or skip picking a QB in the first, we will know how he feels about this class of QBs haha.

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well our latest FO would be putting all their eggs in the QB basket. Hasn't worked yet and frankly I just don't see the QB in this draft. If they take one I certainly hope I'm 100% wrong.

    I would trust that if anyone can evaluate and develop a QB it would be Jackson. If we pick someone up in free agency or skip picking a QB in the first, we will know how he feels about this class of QBs haha.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I would trust that if anyone can evaluate and develop a QB it would be Jackson. If we pick someone up in free agency or skip picking a QB in the first, we will know how he feels about this class of QBs haha.

    Not necessarily... I think that for us to spend our #2 on a QB, there's going to have to be unanimous agreement that one QB is not only the best QB prospect, but that he is a high-probability prospect. Sashi is going to have to hear this from Hue, Scouting and Analytics... not just "I can live with QB X being the choice."

    First time out they are all going to be in the same boat because it is the boat they wanted to be in.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I would trust that if anyone can evaluate and develop a QB it would be Jackson. If we pick someone up in free agency or skip picking a QB in the first, we will know how he feels about this class of QBs haha.

    Not necessarily... I think that for us to spend our #2 on a QB, there's going to have to be unanimous agreement that one QB is not only the best QB prospect, but that he is a high-probability prospect. Sashi is going to have to hear this from Hue, Scouting and Analytics... not just "I can live with QB X being the choice."

    First time out they are all going to be in the same boat because it is the boat they wanted to be in.

    @tour2ma said:

    Not necessarily... I think that for us to spend our #2 on a QB, there's going to have to be unanimous agreement that one QB is not only the best QB prospect, but that he is a high-probability prospect. Sashi is going to have to hear this from Hue, Scouting and Analytics... not just "I can live with QB X being the choice."

    First time out they are all going to be in the same boat because it is the boat they wanted to be in.

    Eh we will just wait till the 3rd and get Goff....

  • I'm still on the cardale bandwagon. I want him for the browns and I think he has all the tools in his box to succeed given time to mature. He's got the size, he's got the strength, he can run if he needs to and at his size he's probably not one hit from blowing out a knee. He's got some big game experience and that's not bad. Yeah his second season wasn't all sunshine and rainbows but he still never lost. Sometimes you've gotta take a chance on a guy who's got all the tools rather than take a chance on a guy who doesn't.

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  • T The Cysko Kid

    I'm still on the cardale bandwagon. I want him for the browns and I think he has all the tools in his box to succeed given time to mature. He's got the size, he's got the strength, he can run if he needs to and at his size he's probably not one hit from blowing out a knee. He's got some big game experience and that's not bad. Yeah his second season wasn't all sunshine and rainbows but he still never lost. Sometimes you've gotta take a chance on a guy who's got all the tools rather than take a chance on a guy who doesn't.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I'm still on the cardale bandwagon. I want him for the browns and I think he has all the tools in his box to succeed given time to mature. He's got the size, he's got the strength, he can run if he needs to and at his size he's probably not one hit from blowing out a knee. He's got some big game experience and that's not bad. Yeah his second season wasn't all sunshine and rainbows but he still never lost. Sometimes you've gotta take a chance on a guy who's got all the tools rather than take a chance on a guy who doesn't.

    I tend to agree but I would worry that the browns will have a quick reach for the ripcord if it doesn't happen quickly.

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  • I don't think Cardale has the resume to be taken in the first 3 rounds. I'd expect him to be around in the 5th at which point I'd scoop him up and have him sit behind Goff.

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  • R RoyceRolls

    I don't think Cardale has the resume to be taken in the first 3 rounds. I'd expect him to be around in the 5th at which point I'd scoop him up and have him sit behind Goff.

    @roycerolls said:

    I don't think Cardale has the resume to be taken in the first 3 rounds. I'd expect him to be around in the 5th at which point I'd scoop him up and have him sit behind Goff.

    Yes, I just met I thought he has the right tools.

    WSS

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  • R RoyceRolls

    I don't think Cardale has the resume to be taken in the first 3 rounds. I'd expect him to be around in the 5th at which point I'd scoop him up and have him sit behind Goff.

    @roycerolls said:

    I don't think Cardale has the resume to be taken in the first 3 rounds. I'd expect him to be around in the 5th at which point I'd scoop him up and have him sit behind Goff.

    I definitely wouldn't be opposed to this.

  • I believe analytics will show that two QBs in one draft is the new stupid...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I believe analytics will show that two QBs in one draft is the new stupid...

    @tour2ma said:

    I believe analytics will show that two QBs in one draft is the new stupid...

    Oh I think that's probably very true except maybe in a rare occasion.

    Still I'm going to have to sit in front of the TV watching the Browns win a playoff game before I take football analytics seriously. Sorry Sashi no disrespect intended but...

    WSS 😉

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  • Not a good day for Camp Cardale

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2016/story/_/id/14858562/qb-cardale-jones-suffers-apparent-hamstring-injury-nfl-combine

  • ... and he needed a good day.

    Hammie pull makes me wonder how serious his prep for the Combine was.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • And ... traded for a conditional 7th rounder.

    Zombo

    --Next year he is washing Kessler's car in Berea lot.

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  • Z Zombo

    And ... traded for a conditional 7th rounder.

    Zombo

    --Next year he is washing Kessler's car in Berea lot.

    Zombo said:

    And ... traded for a conditional 7th rounder.

    Zombo

    --Next year he is washing Kessler's car in Berea lot.

    Traded to who? The Browns? Really? Oh, I see....the Chargers.

  • Z Zombo

    And ... traded for a conditional 7th rounder.

    Zombo

    --Next year he is washing Kessler's car in Berea lot.

    Zombo said:

    And ... traded for a conditional 7th rounder.

    Zombo

    --Next year he is washing Kessler's car in Berea lot.

    We pick him up if he gets cut. ?

    Z 1 Reply

  • Another example of staying in college too long. If dude would have left after OSU won the title game.I honestly believe he would have been the 3rd QB off the board after Winston and Mariota in a incredibly poor draft class (only 7 QBs were drafted) and probably late 2nd/early 3rd as opposed to the 4th round in a much deeper draft. The book isn't closed but that's a huge what if.

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