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    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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    Clinton wins in a landslide.

    Trump is going to win according to to early exit polls also in a landslide.

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      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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      Confirmed : Trump wins in a land slide

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        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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        Everybody that took SC and NH has become the nominee. Cruz said Rubio dropped out yet again - the guy never learns.

        Trump shot down GW Bush, defended PP, stood against the GOP on gay marriage and health care and still won evangelical SC by a landslide.

        Ted Cruz Status:

        ☐ Not Stumped

        ☑ Stumped

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          jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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          Sometimes I think the only ones who ever truly lose elections are the voters...yeesh.

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            HIGH ENERGY

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              Damn it...

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                Things are looking good for a CHANGE.

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                  VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                  He calls the Bush family a bunch of liars, he tells the pope to shut up, he defends planned parenthood at a GOP debate in one of the most conservative states in the country.

                  He still wins.

                  gg, folks. This man is our next president.

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                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    If Cruz can't carry the evangelical Christian vote (which he didn't in SC) I don't see any path for him winning. I think Rubio is now the last man standing who can possibly stop Trump. I also think Bush will end up endorsing Rubio. Kasich and Carson are going to get a lot of pressure now to get out of the race.

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                      If Cruz can't carry the evangelical Christian vote (which he didn't in SC) I don't see any path for him winning. I think Rubio is now the last man standing who can possibly stop Trump. I also think Bush will end up endorsing Rubio. Kasich and Carson are going to get a lot of pressure now to get out of the race.

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                      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                      If Cruz can't carry the evangelical Christian vote (which he didn't in SC) I don't see any path for him winning. I think Rubio is now the last man standing who can possibly stop Trump. I also think Bush will end up endorsing Rubio. Kasich and Carson are going to get a lot of pressure now to get out of the race.

                      Trump already won. Nobody loses if they win SC and NH ever.

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                        Damn it...

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                        @mld-woody said:

                        Damn it...

                        Woody, is Bernie your guy? If so, who do you think you're going to vote for.

                        @bbedward said:

                        Trump already won. Nobody loses if they win SC and NH ever.

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                          He calls the Bush family a bunch of liars, he tells the pope to shut up, he defends planned parenthood at a GOP debate in one of the most conservative states in the country.

                          He still wins.

                          gg, folks. This man is our next president.

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                          @vaportrail said:

                          He calls the Bush family a bunch of liars, he tells the pope to shut up, he defends planned parenthood at a GOP debate in one of the most conservative states in the country.

                          He still wins.

                          gg, folks. This man is our next president.

                          So he actually said those things or that's just the hyperbolized interpretation?

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                            @vaportrail said:

                            He calls the Bush family a bunch of liars, he tells the pope to shut up, he defends planned parenthood at a GOP debate in one of the most conservative states in the country.

                            He still wins.

                            gg, folks. This man is our next president.

                            So he actually said those things or that's just the hyperbolized interpretation?

                            WSS

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                            VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                            @westside-steve said:

                            So he actually said those things or that's just the hyperbolized interpretation?

                            WSS

                            saying W. lied

                            https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-response-to-the-pope

                            Here is his response to the pope.

                            http://www.vox.com/2016/2/13/10988338/donald-trump-planned-parenthood-gop-debate

                            Here is his defense of PP

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              Damn it...

                              Woody, is Bernie your guy? If so, who do you think you're going to vote for.

                              @bbedward said:

                              Trump already won. Nobody loses if they win SC and NH ever.

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @vaportrail said:

                              Woody, is Bernie your guy? If so, who do you think you're going to vote for.

                              Ya, by default I guess.

                              I don't know. If it is between Clinton and Trump, I'm not sure.

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                Trump won by 70,000 votes and won all 50 delegates.

                                I think he's by far the best Republican candidate - for several reasons, though I'm not traditionally a "conservative" I can't deal with these Bible thumpers, flat taxers, Medicare cutting, corrupt guys.

                                I pick Trump over Clinton no brainer.

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  So he actually said those things or that's just the hyperbolized interpretation?

                                  WSS

                                  saying W. lied

                                  https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-response-to-the-pope

                                  Here is his response to the pope.

                                  http://www.vox.com/2016/2/13/10988338/donald-trump-planned-parenthood-gop-debate

                                  Here is his defense of PP

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                                  @vaportrail said:

                                  saying W. lied

                                  https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-response-to-the-pope

                                  Here is his response to the pope.

                                  http://www.vox.com/2016/2/13/10988338/donald-trump-planned-parenthood-gop-debate

                                  Here is his defense of PP

                                  So it really is a paraphrase to make the situation seem harsh. Where do you disagree on any of those statements?

                                  I'm no lover of Trump but for Christ's sake can't the opponent's attack him for something he actually said?

                                  Also keep in mind when you talk religious right you're basically talking Protestant evangelists. Never Big followers of the Pope. Neither are most of the lefties who are now defending him. Pretty weird.

                                  That being said I'm concerned but it looks like he's going to be the nominee. I don't want him to be President unless it's a choice between him and Bernie or Hillary.

                                  It's high time for the Republican Party to jump on board and start getting a support team together. Since I'm positive he doesn't know jack shit about politics the cabinet and advisors are going to have to drive this train. But that's nothing new.

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                                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                    Trump may not be the best bible thumper in the race but he is probably the best panderer to bible thumping in the field. As he goes into the deep south and asks the crowd what is the best book ever written he holds up a bible and says (paraphrasing) the bible is even better than *the Art of the Deal". When asked about his favorite verse in the bible he cherishes he doesn't have (know?) one. When pandering at a bible college he reads off of (2) Corinthians a term that only a person who is absolutely clueless about the bible would say. (Note to Trump: Acts is the New Testament, right after the four Gospels. It’s about the dramatic advance of Christianity against many obstacles; it’s a book for winners! And with 28 chapters, it’s much bigger than Second Corinthians. It’s huuuge!)

                                    Trump thought it was disgraceful for the pope to question another person's faith yet Trump himself did it not only with Cruz but also Ben Carson:

                                    "Consider Trump’s crafty contrast of his (self-professed) Presbyterianism with Ben Carson’s Seventh-day Adventism. At a rally in Florida last October, Trump said: “I’m Presbyterian. Boy, that’s down the middle of the road, folks, in all fairness. I mean, Seventh-day Adventist, I don’t know about. I just don’t know about.”

                                    Trump’s thinly-veiled bigotry was obvious. He was not suggesting he needed to read the Wikipedia page about Seventh-day Adventism. His point was that Presbyterians are good, mainstream Americans, and his GOP rival’s Seventh-day Adventists are not.

                                    But when Trump was asked whether he would apologize for the remarks, he said “I would certainly give an apology if I said something bad about it. But I didn’t. All I said was I don’t know about it. Right. While feigning Christian devotion, Trump has become a religious demagogue of truly biblical proportions."

                                    Donald J. Trump ✔ ‎@realDonaldTrump

                                    How can Ted Cruz be an Evangelical Christian when he lies so much and is so dishonest?

                                    7:03 AM - 12 Feb 2016

                                    Trump claimed that Cruz’s campaign’s tactics in Iowa exposed him as a religious hypocrite: “You can’t lie and then hold up the bible, OK?” Trump told John Dickerson. “He consistently lies. What he did to Ben Carson was a disgrace. What he did with the voter violation form — which is a fraud — is a disgrace. And you can’t do that. You can’t hold up all of these values and hold up the bible and then lie.”

                                    So if Trump asserts that “no leader… should have the right to question another man’s religion or faith,” is that a tacit admission that he’s a hypocrite, or just not “leader” material?

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                                      @vaportrail said:

                                      Woody, is Bernie your guy? If so, who do you think you're going to vote for.

                                      Ya, by default I guess.

                                      I don't know. If it is between Clinton and Trump, I'm not sure.

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                                      VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      Ya, by default I guess.

                                      I don't know. If it is between Clinton and Trump, I'm not sure.

                                      As a moderate liberal, here's my argument for voting Trump in the primary. The GOPe candidates actually believe the crap they spout off about social issues. The thought of Cruz or Rubio being elected makes real the possibility of Roe v Wade getting turned over if they're allowed to appoint 2-3 justices. With Trump, I doubt he believes half of the shit he says, and has been masterful at pandering to the conservative base so far. That said, he's already defended planned parenthood, and I'd expect any justices that he appoints to be more moderate than those that Rubio, Kasich, or Cruz would appoint.

                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      So it really is a paraphrase to make the situation seem harsh. Where do you disagree on any of those statements?

                                      I'm no lover of Trump but for Christ's sake can't the opponent's attack him for something he actually said?

                                      Also keep in mind when you talk religious right you're basically talking Protestant evangelists. Never Big followers of the Pope. Neither are most of the lefties who are now defending him. Pretty weird.

                                      That being said I'm concerned but it looks like he's going to be the nominee. I don't want him to be President unless it's a choice between him and Bernie or Hillary.

                                      It's high time for the Republican Party to jump on board and start getting a support team together. Since I'm positive he doesn't know jack shit about politics the cabinet and advisors are going to have to drive this train. But that's nothing new.

                                      WSS

                                      Eh, I don't think I was really paraphrasing much. He outright said the Bush administration lied. The whole second half of his letter to the pope is him suggesting that the pope is inept without actually saying it. And he actually defended the existence of PP on a GOP debate stage in South Carolina. I agree with what he's said on those issues, short of being pro-choice. I don't like his baby boomer views on the Apple iPhone backdoor situation; he's demonstrated time and time again his understanding of encryption, the internet, and technology in general is not much better than Ted Stevens, and that's what scares me the most about him.

                                      Still, Trump is the best choice of the GOP nominees, and that's why I'm voting for him in the primary. Ted Cruz is full Tea Party and Marco Rubio wants a ground war in Iraq. No thanks. Ideologically, I'm most closely aligned with Bernie, but the guy's got no chance of winning the nomination, let alone a general election.

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        Ya, by default I guess.

                                        I don't know. If it is between Clinton and Trump, I'm not sure.

                                        As a moderate liberal, here's my argument for voting Trump in the primary. The GOPe candidates actually believe the crap they spout off about social issues. The thought of Cruz or Rubio being elected makes real the possibility of Roe v Wade getting turned over if they're allowed to appoint 2-3 justices. With Trump, I doubt he believes half of the shit he says, and has been masterful at pandering to the conservative base so far. That said, he's already defended planned parenthood, and I'd expect any justices that he appoints to be more moderate than those that Rubio, Kasich, or Cruz would appoint.

                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        So it really is a paraphrase to make the situation seem harsh. Where do you disagree on any of those statements?

                                        I'm no lover of Trump but for Christ's sake can't the opponent's attack him for something he actually said?

                                        Also keep in mind when you talk religious right you're basically talking Protestant evangelists. Never Big followers of the Pope. Neither are most of the lefties who are now defending him. Pretty weird.

                                        That being said I'm concerned but it looks like he's going to be the nominee. I don't want him to be President unless it's a choice between him and Bernie or Hillary.

                                        It's high time for the Republican Party to jump on board and start getting a support team together. Since I'm positive he doesn't know jack shit about politics the cabinet and advisors are going to have to drive this train. But that's nothing new.

                                        WSS

                                        Eh, I don't think I was really paraphrasing much. He outright said the Bush administration lied. The whole second half of his letter to the pope is him suggesting that the pope is inept without actually saying it. And he actually defended the existence of PP on a GOP debate stage in South Carolina. I agree with what he's said on those issues, short of being pro-choice. I don't like his baby boomer views on the Apple iPhone backdoor situation; he's demonstrated time and time again his understanding of encryption, the internet, and technology in general is not much better than Ted Stevens, and that's what scares me the most about him.

                                        Still, Trump is the best choice of the GOP nominees, and that's why I'm voting for him in the primary. Ted Cruz is full Tea Party and Marco Rubio wants a ground war in Iraq. No thanks. Ideologically, I'm most closely aligned with Bernie, but the guy's got no chance of winning the nomination, let alone a general election.

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                                        @vaportrail said:

                                        As a moderate liberal, here's my argument for voting Trump in the primary.

                                        As a moderate liberal, you should vote for Trump simply because he is a moderate liberal.....anyone who thinks he's a conservative christian is crazy....carry on.

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                                          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                          Agree my biggest issue with Trump is his stance in net neutrality and the encryption stuff.

                                          But Hillary says the same things.

                                          Trump is pretty much center-right/left on most issues. Like legalizing medical marijuana and allowing States to decide on recreational (rather than the krispy kreme or Fiorina approach of enforcing federal law in colorado), doesn't seem to wanna overturn the supreme court on roe v Wade or gay marriage, liberal health care and VA plan, etc.

                                          Even the wall was on the Democrat platform not too long ago, though the mass deportation and not allowing anchor babies would be further to the right.

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