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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    So far from what I have seen...

    Busts in order from biggest... only offense as of now...

    • OT Stanley (ND) - a top ten talent? Where?
    • RB Henry (BAMA) - sorry, Ag, but limited ability to adjust path won't mix well with NFL speed/power.
    • WR Miller (OSU) - sorry, homers... just don't see the skill emerging from this Rnd 2/3(?) raw talent.
    • QB Hackenberg (PSU) - expectations aren't that high, but neither is his ceiling.
    • C Ryan Kelly (BAMA) - May not bust, but will disappoint... overrated...
    Steals... many of my "steals" are zooming up the board...
    • OLB Spence (OSU/EKY) - has risen to top 15 on some boards and is still a steal... best edge rusher in the Draft.
    • C/OG Martin (ND) - early Day 2 plug and play future Pro bowler...
    • DT Rankins (Lou) - going to make some team picking Day 2 Day 1 a helluva 3-4 DE... Sr. Bowl fast riser.
    • DT Washington (OSU) - going to make some team picking Day 2 a helluva 3-4 DE
    • RB Williams (ARK) - hard running little big man likely going in the 3rd
    • CB Jackson III (UH) - tall athletic kid I think will click coming out of Rnd 3.
    • CB Burns (KSU) - fast and feisty Day 3 kid who if invited had shot at winning the Combine 40.
    • QB Prescott (MSU) - my darkhorse has to be a steal by definition... with the right team and given time just maybe...
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      Mud-drafttek has Scooby rated at #36 overall.

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        Mud-drafttek has Scooby rated at #36 overall.

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        @texasag1969 said:

        Mud-drafttek has Scooby rated at #36 overall.

        Thats sounds more like it....I've seen him all over the place(in games too)....so he doesnt seem to have the universal respect as a lot of the top prospects....though #36 is very believable to me....my guess is that he starts moving up on more boards.....

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          @texasag1969 said:

          Mud-drafttek has Scooby rated at #36 overall.

          Thats sounds more like it....I've seen him all over the place(in games too)....so he doesnt seem to have the universal respect as a lot of the top prospects....though #36 is very believable to me....my guess is that he starts moving up on more boards.....

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          @mudfly said:

          Thats sounds more like it....I've seen him all over the place(in games too)....so he doesnt seem to have the universal respect as a lot of the top prospects....though #36 is very believable to me....my guess is that he starts moving up on more boards.....

          Scooby has been my dude for a long while now (not a shameless one-up, just agreeing). He reminds me A LOT of Chris Borland (hopefully minus the retirement thing), a guy who just plays the game correctly and well whenever he's on the field. I've been well known to fall in love with the guys who get the tags of "he does everything good but nothing excellent" because those guys more often than not turn into good football players.

          Man, if we could get our QB, the best available OLB/DE prospect, and Scooby in that order I would be a happy dude.

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            Ha!....thats a long road 😉 .....but to answer your question, I think he'll do fine anywhere....he's a pure football player.....

            Mind numbing stats from 2014(was hurt most of 2015, but returned to play, so should be ok physically.....

            164 tackles.....34 tackles for loss......15 sacks.....against Pac 12 level competition....

            Best game....UCLA.....19 tackles...4.5 for loss.....3 sacks.....

            http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/scooby-wright-1/gamelog/2014/

            Plays like a mad dog in a meat market.....😉

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            gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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            @mudfly said:

            Ha!....thats a long road 😉 .....but to answer your question, I think he'll do fine anywhere....he's a pure football player.....

            Mind numbing stats from 2014(was hurt most of 2015, but returned to play, so should be ok physically.....

            164 tackles.....34 tackles for loss......15 sacks.....against Pac 12 level competition....

            Best game....UCLA.....19 tackles...4.5 for loss.....3 sacks.....

            http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/scooby-wright-1/gamelog/2014/

            Plays like a mad dog in a meat market..... 😉

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              So far from what I have seen...

              Busts in order from biggest... only offense as of now...

              • OT Stanley (ND) - a top ten talent? Where?
              • RB Henry (BAMA) - sorry, Ag, but limited ability to adjust path won't mix well with NFL speed/power.
              • WR Miller (OSU) - sorry, homers... just don't see the skill emerging from this Rnd 2/3(?) raw talent.
              • QB Hackenberg (PSU) - expectations aren't that high, but neither is his ceiling.
              • C Ryan Kelly (BAMA) - May not bust, but will disappoint... overrated...
              Steals... many of my "steals" are zooming up the board...
              • OLB Spence (OSU/EKY) - has risen to top 15 on some boards and is still a steal... best edge rusher in the Draft.
              • C/OG Martin (ND) - early Day 2 plug and play future Pro bowler...
              • DT Rankins (Lou) - going to make some team picking Day 2 Day 1 a helluva 3-4 DE... Sr. Bowl fast riser.
              • DT Washington (OSU) - going to make some team picking Day 2 a helluva 3-4 DE
              • RB Williams (ARK) - hard running little big man likely going in the 3rd
              • CB Jackson III (UH) - tall athletic kid I think will click coming out of Rnd 3.
              • CB Burns (KSU) - fast and feisty Day 3 kid who if invited had shot at winning the Combine 40.
              • QB Prescott (MSU) - my darkhorse has to be a steal by definition... with the right team and given time just maybe...
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              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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              @tour2ma said:

              Steals...

              • RB Williams (ARK) - hard running little big man likely going in the 3rd

              I was just catching up on Williams story... Missed entire 4th year due to a foot injury he suffered in August.

              As a Jr. in 13 games he posted 1190 yds rushing with 5.6 YPC and 12 TDs.

              As a Soph. in 12 games posted 900 and a 6.0.

              Nice blend of power and moves.

              Big week for this kid...

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                How has Spence been off of the field?

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                  @tour2ma said:

                  Steals...

                  • RB Williams (ARK) - hard running little big man likely going in the 3rd

                  I was just catching up on Williams story... Missed entire 4th year due to a foot injury he suffered in August.

                  As a Jr. in 13 games he posted 1190 yds rushing with 5.6 YPC and 12 TDs.

                  As a Soph. in 12 games posted 900 and a 6.0.

                  Nice blend of power and moves.

                  Big week for this kid...

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                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                  @tour2ma said:

                  I was just catching up on Williams story... Missed entire 4th year due to a foot injury he suffered in August.

                  As a Jr. in 13 games he posted 1190 yds rushing with 5.6 YPC and 12 TDs.

                  As a Soph. in 12 games posted 900 and a 6.0.

                  Nice blend of power and moves.

                  Big week for this kid...

                  Big guy who can run? Can he play D?

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                    How has Spence been off of the field?

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    @mld-woody said:

                    How has Spence been off of the field?

                    No issues at Eastern KY that I know of...

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                      Call me in 2020 in order to make a proper judgment on the question of this thread.

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                        So far from what I have seen...

                        Busts in order from biggest... only offense as of now...

                        • OT Stanley (ND) - a top ten talent? Where?
                        • RB Henry (BAMA) - sorry, Ag, but limited ability to adjust path won't mix well with NFL speed/power.
                        • WR Miller (OSU) - sorry, homers... just don't see the skill emerging from this Rnd 2/3(?) raw talent.
                        • QB Hackenberg (PSU) - expectations aren't that high, but neither is his ceiling.
                        • C Ryan Kelly (BAMA) - May not bust, but will disappoint... overrated...
                        Steals... many of my "steals" are zooming up the board...
                        • OLB Spence (OSU/EKY) - has risen to top 15 on some boards and is still a steal... best edge rusher in the Draft.
                        • C/OG Martin (ND) - early Day 2 plug and play future Pro bowler...
                        • DT Rankins (Lou) - going to make some team picking Day 2 Day 1 a helluva 3-4 DE... Sr. Bowl fast riser.
                        • DT Washington (OSU) - going to make some team picking Day 2 a helluva 3-4 DE
                        • RB Williams (ARK) - hard running little big man likely going in the 3rd
                        • CB Jackson III (UH) - tall athletic kid I think will click coming out of Rnd 3.
                        • CB Burns (KSU) - fast and feisty Day 3 kid who if invited had shot at winning the Combine 40.
                        • QB Prescott (MSU) - my darkhorse has to be a steal by definition... with the right team and given time just maybe...
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                        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                        I agree on Dak.

                        @tour2ma said:

                        So far from what I have seen...

                        Busts in order from biggest... only offense as of now...

                        • OT Stanley (ND) - a top ten talent? Where?
                        • RB Henry (BAMA) - sorry, Ag, but limited ability to adjust path won't mix well with NFL speed/power.
                        • WR Miller (OSU) - sorry, homers... just don't see the skill emerging from this Rnd 2/3(?) raw talent.
                        • QB Hackenberg (PSU) - expectations aren't that high, but neither is his ceiling.
                        • C Ryan Kelly (BAMA) - May not bust, but will disappoint... overrated...
                        Steals... many of my "steals" are zooming up the board...
                        • OLB Spence (OSU/EKY) - has risen to top 15 on some boards and is still a steal... best edge rusher in the Draft.
                        • C/OG Martin (ND) - early Day 2 plug and play future Pro bowler...
                        • DT Rankins (Lou) - going to make some team picking Day 2 Day 1 a helluva 3-4 DE... Sr. Bowl fast riser.
                        • DT Washington (OSU) - going to make some team picking Day 2 a helluva 3-4 DE
                        • RB Williams (ARK) - hard running little big man likely going in the 3rd
                        • CB Jackson III (UH) - tall athletic kid I think will click coming out of Rnd 3.
                        • CB Burns (KSU) - fast and feisty Day 3 kid who if invited had shot at winning the Combine 40.
                        • QB Prescott (MSU) - my darkhorse has to be a steal by definition... with the right team and given time just maybe...

                        I agree on Dak. I think he will be a very good pro QB. He is a leader, sees the field, has a good arm, and can hurt a team with his legs. I have a feeling he is going to be legit. Mississippi St has never been at the top of the SEC. In terms of a Big 10 team, they might be like Indiana as far as league history. When he took over Miss. St. started to win and were ranked high. I don't mean win on any given day. I mean they could beat anybody in a legit way.

                        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                          I still like Dak...

                          Otherwise looking at my list with the Combine in the rearview mirror...

                          • Busts:
                            • Scratch Henry... still not feeling value here, but won;t go as far as bust after seeing his drills. Field vision is still the big questions.
                          • Steals:
                            • Spence really hurt himself. Thought he was on way to top ten, but now??? Day 2???
                            • Ditto for Washington... nothing "flashed"...
                            • Former, semi-secret DB was UH's William Jackson III, but with Mayock now on his train, he's heading into R1. If there at 32, he has to be considered.

                          New steals to add:

                          • Joe Schobert (OLB - UW) R4 - The guy's Combine field drills blew me away. Even the big names did not match him... Joe even edged Darron Lee in the 3-cone. I think Joe moves inside in our 3-4.
                          • Anthony Zettel (DE - PSU) R6 - moved really well in the field drills, even in the LB drills. Runnerup DE from Northwestern, Dean Lowry...
                          • Joe Dahl (OG - WSU) R6 - "discovered" Senior Bowl Week and backed up with a good Combine.

                          • Joe Haeg (OT - NDSU) R3/4 - nice developmental prospect with nice measureables.

                          • Kenneth Dixon (LA Tech) R2 - just popped at the Combine; may be the premier Power Back in 2016.

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                            I still like Dak...

                            Otherwise looking at my list with the Combine in the rearview mirror...

                            • Busts:
                              • Scratch Henry... still not feeling value here, but won;t go as far as bust after seeing his drills. Field vision is still the big questions.
                            • Steals:
                              • Spence really hurt himself. Thought he was on way to top ten, but now??? Day 2???
                              • Ditto for Washington... nothing "flashed"...
                              • Former, semi-secret DB was UH's William Jackson III, but with Mayock now on his train, he's heading into R1. If there at 32, he has to be considered.

                            New steals to add:

                            • Joe Schobert (OLB - UW) R4 - The guy's Combine field drills blew me away. Even the big names did not match him... Joe even edged Darron Lee in the 3-cone. I think Joe moves inside in our 3-4.
                            • Anthony Zettel (DE - PSU) R6 - moved really well in the field drills, even in the LB drills. Runnerup DE from Northwestern, Dean Lowry...
                            • Joe Dahl (OG - WSU) R6 - "discovered" Senior Bowl Week and backed up with a good Combine.

                            • Joe Haeg (OT - NDSU) R3/4 - nice developmental prospect with nice measureables.

                            • Kenneth Dixon (LA Tech) R2 - just popped at the Combine; may be the premier Power Back in 2016.

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                            @tour2ma said:

                            I still like Dak...

                            Otherwise looking at my list with the Combine in the rearview mirror...

                            • Busts:
                              • Scratch Henry... still not feeling value here, but won;t go as far as bust after seeing his drills. Field vision is still the big questions.
                            • Steals:
                              • Spence really hurt himself. Thought he was on way to top ten, but now??? Day 2???
                              • Ditto for Washington... nothing "flashed"...
                              • Former, semi-secret DB was UH's William Jackson III, but with Mayock now on his train, he's heading into R1. If there at 32, he has to be considered.

                            New steals to add:

                            • Joe Schobert (OLB - UW) R4 - The guy's Combine field drills blew me away. Even the big names did not match him... Joe even edged Darron Lee in the 3-cone. I think Joe moves inside in our 3-4.
                            • Anthony Zettel (DE - PSU) R6 - moved really well in the field drills, even in the LB drills. Runnerup DE from Northwestern, Dean Lowry...
                            • Joe Dahl (OG - WSU) R6 - "discovered" Senior Bowl Week and backed up with a good Combine.

                            • Joe Haeg (OT - NDSU) R3/4 - nice developmental prospect with nice measureables.

                            • Kenneth Dixon (LA Tech) R2 - just popped at the Combine; may be the premier Power Back in 2016.

                            Totally agree on Spence. Would be a great pick at 32. Wentz and Spence.
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