Camp Wentz- Starts here.

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@tiamat63 said:

Worked out well for Luck at Stanford.

Not that I'm saying they're the same. However Stanford was a run first/heavy run team.

Despite the fact that the article had overwhelming positive and interesting quotes regarding Wentz's character, intelligence, and mentality, some people will only see what they want to see.

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@d-bone said:

The difference with Luck was he played for one of the top teams in the country, against some of the best competition in the country. Also, he was the #1 rated QB for his final 2yrs, not just from a weekend in shorts and a tank top......... Big, big difference between the two. Not even close.

I'm not saying he won't be the Browns savior, hopefully he will, but he is a reach, especially at 2.

Just because you didn't know who the guy was until last weekend doesn't mean the rest of us didn't.

[Mike H]

Heard about Wentz from Mayock well before the Senior Bowl, we're talking December. Was watching his games shortly after.

There were actually a lot of mock drafts having Wentz go #2 to Browns before/during Sr Bowl practice week.

He's not really a Combine Creation like you're saying DBone.

@TonyPauline: Jets, Browns, Texans & Rams have personnel ppl & scouts on hand to watch Carson Wentz/QB/ND St at the FCS title game

[Mike H]

Check, check.

January 9th:

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Just watched 2 tapes of Carson Wentz...NDSU QB...big kid can sling it ! Senior Bowl week important for him !

[D Bone]

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Just because you didn't know who the guy was until last weekend doesn't mean the rest of us didn't.

That's fine, as I don't follow every small town, small college prospect. Hopefully people like yourself are correct, and if Hue does in fact take him at 2, then that will be all the confirmation that I need.

Gotta go ride my mtn bike 18 miles........................

[gumby73]

Pro Day's are Scheduled Wentz 3-24...Goff 3-18... Hey Ray...Browns will be there!!

[tiamat63]

@d-bone said:

The difference with Luck was he played for one of the top teams in the country, against some of the best competition in the country. Also, he was the #1 rated QB for his final 2yrs, not just from a weekend in shorts and a tank top......... Big, big difference between the two. Not even close.

I'm not saying he won't be the Browns savior, hopefully he will, but he is a reach, especially at 2.

Again, I wasn't comparing the two outside of the respective offensive styles that their teams primarily employed.

In case you missed that whole "Not that I'm saying they're the same (players)" part.

[Westside Steve]

Luck luck luck luck luck. Doesn't he have to win a Superbowl before he goes to the Hall of Fame?

WSS

[Tour2ma]

Did Marino?

[Mudfly]

doesnt have to win a super bowl to still be considered the best prospect we've seen in a decade....which is the context here....pretty simple, really....

[Westside Steve]

So you'd rather have luck then any other quarterback playing today? Fair enough. I think he's turned into a cliché.

And I guess after he's had some time in the league, Tour, we'll see.

WSS

[Westside Steve]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/10/andrew-luck-worst-qb-rating-stats-most-interceptions-indianapolis-colts-playoffs-record

[The Gipper]

@westside-steve said:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/10/andrew-luck-worst-qb-rating-stats-most-interceptions-indianapolis-colts-playoffs-record

I would still take him.

[Mudfly]

@westside-steve said:

So you'd rather have luck then any other quarterback playing today? Fair enough. I think he's turned into a cliché.

Just like almost every other debate Ive had with you...I didnt say that.....as usual, you've taken a statement and made it something completely different....."context" is everything...

"best prospect" has nothing do do with who the best QB in the league today...and everything to do with how players are selected in the draft...."before" anyone knows what they'll do in the league....

[Westside Steve]

I wasn't even taking issue with you. Just saying that the Andrew Luck broken record gets a little tiresome.

Fuck him, and fuck any quarterback that's not a Cleveland Brown.

WSS

[The Gipper]

@westside-steve said:

I wasn't even taking issue with you. Just saying that the Andrew Luck broken record gets a little tiresome.

Fuck him, and fuck any quarterback that's not a Cleveland Brown.

WSS

Fair enough.....but I would still take him if he were available for the QB of the Cleveland Browns.

Look.....we kinda sorta hated Terry Bradshaw (only in a football rivalry sense), but I wish that the Steelers had taken Mike Phipps #1 overall that year and left Bradshaw for us. Yes, clearly it is true that the Steeler overall team in the 70s was great and that certainly Bradshaw would not likely have had the same success here as in Pisstown, but it would be nice to speculate to possibility.

(Does anyone think Mike Phipps would have QBd those Steelers to 4 SB titles? Highly unlikely imo)

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@westside-steve said:

I wasn't even taking issue with you. Just saying that the Andrew Luck broken record gets a little tiresome.

Fuck him, and fuck any quarterback that's not a Cleveland Brown.

WSS

And fuck one quarterback who IS a Cleveland Brown.

[stillmotion]

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

And fuck one quarterback who IS a Cleveland Brown.

Manziel?

I thought you said "Was" and was thinking you were talking about Spergeon Wynn

[SPEK216]

Not sure if this has been posted yet but it's pretty cool

[calfoxwc]

Wentz is the kid to inspire the Browns football team, and all the fans...

It's a no-brainer, all due respect to Goff.