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  • Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #52
  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by
    #53

    According to OvertheCap we have 3 extra compensatory draft picks - 2 in the 4th, one in the 5th - for Skrine, Sheard, Hoyer.

  • hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
    #54

    Zombo said:

    Yes Z, but not really so. When we send Johnny marching Home, ($4.3 million), and (probably) release Bowe ($4.6 million), that looks like a zero sum game.

  • another Gordon failure is very, very possible. I never saw Gordon all in on playing

    football when he -wasn't- suspended.

    and he's still making excuses about his upbringing. Maybe the first time or two I could accept that,

    depending...

    but seriously... any player who had been in trouble as he has been in... "thinks the no alcohol only lasted

    til the season was over"..

    ???

    What ever happened to "get off your ass and find out the specifics, find out from your agent....make sure

    you get to play football".

    But no, he just goes by what he "thinks". That is witless, and maybe he isn't smart enough to learn the playbook..

    and maybe getting suspended was cover for that.

    I don't know, but if I could trade him for a second round pick... I'd do it.

    It's possible he can come back, be serious, really want to be that player he COULD HAVE BEEN...

    but who knows. I believe this coaching staff will judge him based on his interview if he's reinstated,

    and the look in his eyes that he's serious.

    Okay, even a third round pick. dammit.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #55

    @calfoxwc said:

    another Gordon failure is very, very possible. I never saw Gordon all in on playing

    football when he -wasn't- suspended.

    and he's still making excuses about his upbringing. Maybe the first time or two I could accept that,

    depending...

    but seriously... any player who had been in trouble as he has been in... "thinks the no alcohol only lasted

    til the season was over"..

    ???

    What ever happened to "get off your ass and find out the specifics, find out from your agent....make sure

    you get to play football".

    But no, he just goes by what he "thinks". That is witless, and maybe he isn't smart enough to learn the playbook..

    and maybe getting suspended was cover for that.

    I don't know, but if I could trade him for a second round pick... I'd do it.

    It's possible he can come back, be serious, really want to be that player he COULD HAVE BEEN...

    but who knows. I believe this coaching staff will judge him based on his interview if he's reinstated,

    and the look in his eyes that he's serious.

    Okay, even a third round pick. dammit.

    You realize he was on a plane with Joe Haden and Cleveland Browns coaches when he got popped, right? I don't think it was feigned ignorance, especially with coaches present. It was just pure ignorance all around, and for that he's less to blame.

    I put more stock in his first suspension than the most recent one.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    another Gordon failure is very, very possible. I never saw Gordon all in on playing

    football when he -wasn't- suspended.

    and he's still making excuses about his upbringing. Maybe the first time or two I could accept that,

    depending...

    but seriously... any player who had been in trouble as he has been in... "thinks the no alcohol only lasted

    til the season was over"..

    ???

    What ever happened to "get off your ass and find out the specifics, find out from your agent....make sure

    you get to play football".

    But no, he just goes by what he "thinks". That is witless, and maybe he isn't smart enough to learn the playbook..

    and maybe getting suspended was cover for that.

    I don't know, but if I could trade him for a second round pick... I'd do it.

    It's possible he can come back, be serious, really want to be that player he COULD HAVE BEEN...

    but who knows. I believe this coaching staff will judge him based on his interview if he's reinstated,

    and the look in his eyes that he's serious.

    Okay, even a third round pick. dammit.

    You realize he was on a plane with Joe Haden and Cleveland Browns coaches when he got popped, right? I don't think it was feigned ignorance, especially with coaches present. It was just pure ignorance all around, and for that he's less to blame.

    I put more stock in his first suspension than the most recent one.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
    #56

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I put more stock in his first suspension than the most recent one.

    pretty sure that first one was for cough syrup...then, after passing over 70 tests, he gets hit with the microscopic 15mls for weed....then, after another 70 passed tests, he gets whacked for 2 drinks with team mates and coaches(after posting pics)....

    Dude is a mess

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I put more stock in his first suspension than the most recent one.

    pretty sure that first one was for cough syrup...then, after passing over 70 tests, he gets hit with the microscopic 15mls for weed....then, after another 70 passed tests, he gets whacked for 2 drinks with team mates and coaches(after posting pics)....

    Dude is a mess

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #57

    @mudfly said:

    pretty sure that first one was for cough syrup...then, after passing over 70 tests, he gets hit with the microscopic 15mls for weed....then, after another 70 passed tests, he gets whacked for 2 drinks with team mates and coaches(after posting pics)....

    Dude is a mess

    Was it that new cocaine based cough syrup or just the old codeine based one? 😆

  • @mudfly said:

    pretty sure that first one was for cough syrup...then, after passing over 70 tests, he gets hit with the microscopic 15mls for weed....then, after another 70 passed tests, he gets whacked for 2 drinks with team mates and coaches(after posting pics)....

    Dude is a mess

    Was it that new cocaine based cough syrup or just the old codeine based one? 😆

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
    #58

    @texasag1969 said:

    Was it that new cocaine based cough syrup or just the old codeine based one? 😆

    codeine....

  • Mike HM Mike H wrote on last edited by Mike H
    #59

    You're ignorant as fuck if you think a good amount of other players aren't doing the same, if not more than Josh Gordon. He's not a pariah.

    Josh isn't smart enough to not get caught, it seems. But stop.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #60

    Really easy to not get caught... IIRC there's only a three month window for players not in the "substance program" to be tested... and once tested and clean there is no more testing until the next window.

    So basically you have to refrain for maybe 4 months max (one month and a day min) and you're good to go...

    ... so long as a dime bag isn't laying on the passenger seat during a traffic stop or some similar idiotic move.

    One former medical personnel called it an “intelligence test, because it’s once a year, and you know it’s coming.”

    http://deadspin.com/its-remarkably-easy-to-beat-nfl-drug-testing-1695935246

  • Really easy to not get caught... IIRC there's only a three month window for players not in the "substance program" to be tested... and once tested and clean there is no more testing until the next window.

    So basically you have to refrain for maybe 4 months max (one month and a day min) and you're good to go...

    ... so long as a dime bag isn't laying on the passenger seat during a traffic stop or some similar idiotic move.

    One former medical personnel called it an “intelligence test, because it’s once a year, and you know it’s coming.”

    http://deadspin.com/its-remarkably-easy-to-beat-nfl-drug-testing-1695935246

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
    #61

    @tour2ma said:

    One former medical personnel called it an “intelligence test, because it’s once a year, and you know it’s coming.”

    Yep.....thats what it is.....

    So....in reality.....we just have to stop drafting totally stupid people, instead of pot heads and drunks......(true story)....