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Bernie Sanders: "When you are white, you don't know what it's like to be poor."

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    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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    I know there's already plenty of spins to this, but yikes.

    I grew up pretty poor, I think if I drove through East Cleveland late at night I'd probably get dragged out of my car (or worse)

    This rhetoric adds to racial divides IMO - keeps pushing the idea that you're black, you're white, you're Hispanic, you're asian. The bottom line is you need to be American first IMO.

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      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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      Many people in Appalachia wish they were as well off as people in the ghettos of major cities.

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        what a stupid thing to say. But it gets that black base riled up again.

        The dems have divided this country up enough.

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          And shit like this is why bernie can't have my vote

          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            If you watch the video, he isn't really saying what the title to this thread would have you believe. The wording isn't the best, but I get what he's saying.

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              If you watch the video, he isn't really saying what the title to this thread would have you believe. The wording isn't the best, but I get what he's saying.

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              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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              @mld-woody said:

              If you watch the video, he isn't really saying what the title to this thread would have you believe. The wording isn't the best, but I get what he's saying.

              Care to explain it? Because on the face of it, from the transcript I've read, it seems like he's saying that only black people can be *really* poor.

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                And shit like this is why bernie can't have my vote

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                @the-cysko-kid said:

                And shit like this is why bernie can't have my vote

                Actually I watch the debate last night and yes Bernie was ridiculous but Hillary was just as bad if not worse trying to skirt around everything he said to the left.

                I didn't grow up dirt poor but in my years in East Ohio I knew lots of kids who did.

                The entire exchange, among others, made me wonder how any thinking person could vote for either of these guys.

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                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                  And shit like this is why bernie can't have my vote

                  Actually I watch the debate last night and yes Bernie was ridiculous but Hillary was just as bad if not worse trying to skirt around everything he said to the left.

                  I didn't grow up dirt poor but in my years in East Ohio I knew lots of kids who did.

                  The entire exchange, among others, made me wonder how any thinking person could vote for either of these guys.

                  WSS

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                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Actually I watch the debate last night and yes Bernie was ridiculous but Hillary was just as bad if not worse trying to skirt around everything he said to the left.

                  I didn't grow up dirt poor but in my years in East Ohio I knew lots of kids who did.

                  The entire exchange, among others, made me wonder how any thinking person could vote for either of these guys.

                  WSS

                  Funny, I have the same reaction watching Trump and Cruz go at it.

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                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                    And shit like this is why bernie can't have my vote

                    Actually I watch the debate last night and yes Bernie was ridiculous but Hillary was just as bad if not worse trying to skirt around everything he said to the left.

                    I didn't grow up dirt poor but in my years in East Ohio I knew lots of kids who did.

                    The entire exchange, among others, made me wonder how any thinking person could vote for either of these guys.

                    WSS

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                    @westside-steve said:

                    Actually I watch the debate last night and yes Bernie was ridiculous but Hillary was just as bad if not worse trying to skirt around everything he said to the left.

                    I didn't grow up dirt poor but in my years in East Ohio I knew lots of kids who did.

                    The entire exchange, among others, made me wonder how any thinking person could vote for either of these guys.

                    WSS

                    I've already said numerous times I'll vote for satan before lizardy.

                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                      @westside-steve said:

                      Actually I watch the debate last night and yes Bernie was ridiculous but Hillary was just as bad if not worse trying to skirt around everything he said to the left.

                      I didn't grow up dirt poor but in my years in East Ohio I knew lots of kids who did.

                      The entire exchange, among others, made me wonder how any thinking person could vote for either of these guys.

                      WSS

                      Funny, I have the same reaction watching Trump and Cruz go at it.

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                      @gftchris said:

                      Funny, I have the same reaction watching Trump and Cruz go at it.

                      Fair enough. What particular position was that? Again I'm not a Trump or a Ted Cruz supporter.

                      The problems I have with the Republican debates have less to do with substance then the childish give and take.

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                        If you watch the video, he isn't really saying what the title to this thread would have you believe. The wording isn't the best, but I get what he's saying.

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        @mld-woody said:

                        If you watch the video, he isn't really saying what the title to this thread would have you believe. The wording isn't the best, but I get what he's saying.

                        I get where he was trying to go but it is all in the phrasing. I would also probably pump the brakes on the "they are terrorized by the cops" angle. I have had the misfortune of being in some pretty heinous neighborhoods and cops are nonexistent or actively trying to avoid helping you. It may be a different thing all together elsewhere but NJ ghettos are more or less anarchy.

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                          @gftchris said:

                          Funny, I have the same reaction watching Trump and Cruz go at it.

                          Fair enough. What particular position was that? Again I'm not a Trump or a Ted Cruz supporter.

                          The problems I have with the Republican debates have less to do with substance then the childish give and take.

                          WSS

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                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                          @westside-steve said:

                          Fair enough. What particular position was that? Again I'm not a Trump or a Ted Cruz supporter.

                          The problems I have with the Republican debates have less to do with substance then the childish give and take.

                          WSS

                          That's exactly it - you watch the democrat debates and it's "well you have had this position on this issue" "But you had that position on that issue" - you might disagree with their policies but it's generally about policies. Meanwhile at the GOP debate, you have people trying to shout over each other to insult each other, and now literally boasting about penis size (as opposed to metaphorically which has been the case for a while).

                          I mean, I'm not in 100% lockstep with Sanders or Clinton, but I can at least watch a debate and see two people discussing issues and trying to make the case that they have a better track record of governance, whilst Trump's bully tactics have dragged the level of debate around him down drastically. Even Rubio's getting in on the act now, throwing out insults to try to 'cash in' on Trump's 'he says what he wants' bandwagon.

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                            bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                            He's just really trying to pander to the black vote because he's only been getting 20% of it, I don't think this was the way to do it.

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                              He's just really trying to pander to the black vote because he's only been getting 20% of it, I don't think this was the way to do it.

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                              LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                              @bbedward said:

                              He's just really trying to pander to the black vote because he's only been getting 20% of it, I don't think this was the way to do it.

                              Well if pandering is his goal then he did a great job. To be honest, rural white poor who could argue that they are much more poor than urban poor tend to vote Republican in presidential elections. It wouldn't matter what Sanders said. So I really don't think this will hurt him at all.

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                                @bbedward said:

                                He's just really trying to pander to the black vote because he's only been getting 20% of it, I don't think this was the way to do it.

                                Well if pandering is his goal then he did a great job. To be honest, rural white poor who could argue that they are much more poor than urban poor tend to vote Republican in presidential elections. It wouldn't matter what Sanders said. So I really don't think this will hurt him at all.

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                                @logicisforsquares said:

                                Well if pandering is his goal then he did a great job. To be honest, rural white poor who could argue that they are much more poor than urban poor tend to vote Republican in presidential elections. It wouldn't matter what Sanders said. So I really don't think this will hurt him at all.

                                But hillbillies don't vote Republican in a block. As a matter of fact most of the ones I know hate Republicans. Some of the biggest issues are not getting enough disability money and not being able to go to two Drs for oxy prescriptions.

                                And one thing that makes me laugh is that they hate Mexicans and Muslims as bad as anyone you will meet but bitch that Republicans are racist.WSS

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                                  https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/

                                  More disingenuous sanders nonsense. Whites are demonstrably victimized by minorities at a rate of no less than 10x the opposite. Often just for being white so making as if we're the greater problem is ridiculous.

                                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                    Another bitch from my hillbilly brethren, Medicaid is inconvenient.

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                                      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      Bernie needs to get out more. He has no clue about poor white people. Being poor is color blind.

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                                        I don't think there's too many millionaires on this forum if you know what I mean. We all work for what we have and Bernie needs to learn the difference between being lazy and being poor.

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                                          https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/

                                          More disingenuous sanders nonsense. Whites are demonstrably victimized by minorities at a rate of no less than 10x the opposite. Often just for being white so making as if we're the greater problem is ridiculous.

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                                          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                          @the-cysko-kid said:

                                          https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/

                                          More disingenuous sanders nonsense. Whites are demonstrably victimized by minorities at a rate of no less than 10x the opposite. Often just for being white so making as if we're the greater problem is ridiculous.

                                          You're just missing your privilege. You need to call and get it.

                                          Whenever my checking account balance is low I just call the bank and tell them I'm white and they say of course and add more money

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