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Michigan lands best recruit in country

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  • B BaconHound

    @mld-woody said:

    "there are exceptions"

    And of course coaching matters

    But its been shown repeatedly there is merit to the ranking system

    I'm a firm believer football is played on a field, not on paper.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #52

    @baconhound said:

    I'm a firm believer football is played on a field, not on paper.

    and i am a firm believer in statistics

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • W wargograw wrote on
    #53

    How many different arguments has BaconHound lost in this one thread alone?

  • W wargograw

    How many different arguments has BaconHound lost in this one thread alone?

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #54

    @wargograw said:

    How many different arguments has BaconHound lost in this one thread alone?

    Enjoy you're great recruiting class, 8-5 season, Chick-Fil-A Bowl loss & hiring the next guy not to win at A&M.

    BTW thanks for the QB, OU likes depth.

  • W wargograw wrote on
    #55

    My name's BaconHound. I say dumb stuff then just switch it up when I get completely embarrassed on said dumb stuff.

  • W wargograw

    My name's BaconHound. I say dumb stuff then just switch it up when I get completely embarrassed on said dumb stuff.

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #56

    @wargograw said:

    My name's BaconHound. I say dumb stuff then just switch it up when I get completely embarrassed on said dumb stuff.

    Nice! Resisted the my dad can beat up your dad argument.

    If Woody and you believe that recruiting ranking dictates college football success than so be it.

    If you think A&M has been a better college football program than TCU over the last 10 years, that's your opinion.

    Professionals evaluating 21 & 22 year olds for the NFL who have been adequately assessed on the field, on tape and at the combine are about as accurate as a coin flip but people can believe college coaches can see the talent in 17 year olds throughout the entire country.

    Now I never made the argument that recruiting isn't important or that coaching isn't important but that no one aspect overwhelms the other.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #57

    Again, statistics do not support you here.

    and "dictates college football success" was a phrase I never used

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • W wargograw wrote on
    #58

    Where did I say we've been the better program? Nowhere. You said TCU was more attractive. Recruiting has disproved that. Now you're arguing against things I never said. Simple as that.

  • W wargograw

    Where did I say we've been the better program? Nowhere. You said TCU was more attractive. Recruiting has disproved that. Now you're arguing against things I never said. Simple as that.

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #59

    @wargograw said:

    Where did I say we've been the better program? Nowhere. You said TCU was more attractive. Recruiting has disproved that. Now you're arguing against things I never said. Simple as that.

    We live in a statistical society but if "projections" and "ratings" were even close to an exact science then there are a lot of coaches and GMs that no absolutely nothing about football. I don't have the time nor the inclination to show over a ten year period that the Rivals.com/ESPN.com recruiting class rating compared to the final AP polls aren't close.

    I guess it is very fashionable in here to believe that your team, like the Browns, is comprised of incredible talent year after year that is being suffocated by poor coaching. The opposite would mean your team isn't as talented as you'd like it to be and won't be as competitive as you think they should be.

  • B BaconHound

    @wargograw said:

    Where did I say we've been the better program? Nowhere. You said TCU was more attractive. Recruiting has disproved that. Now you're arguing against things I never said. Simple as that.

    We live in a statistical society but if "projections" and "ratings" were even close to an exact science then there are a lot of coaches and GMs that no absolutely nothing about football. I don't have the time nor the inclination to show over a ten year period that the Rivals.com/ESPN.com recruiting class rating compared to the final AP polls aren't close.

    I guess it is very fashionable in here to believe that your team, like the Browns, is comprised of incredible talent year after year that is being suffocated by poor coaching. The opposite would mean your team isn't as talented as you'd like it to be and won't be as competitive as you think they should be.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #60

    @baconhound said:

    We live in a statistical society but if "projections" and "ratings" were even close to an exact science then there are a lot of coaches and GMs that no absolutely nothing about football. I don't have the time nor the inclination to show over a ten year period that the Rivals.com/ESPN.com recruiting class rating compared to the final AP polls aren't close.

    I guess it is very fashionable in here to believe that your team, like the Browns, is comprised of incredible talent year after year that is being suffocated by poor coaching. The opposite would mean your team isn't as talented as you'd like it to be and won't be as competitive as you think they should be.

    No one is saying it is an exact science. But acting like they're meaningless is idiotic.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • W wargograw wrote on
    #61

    Lol. Rivals/AP I'm sure are very correlated, actually. And as a matter of fact, every national champion in the BCS era has averaged top 10 recruiting classes in the 4/5 years prior to winning it. You're now doubly wrong. Once on TCU being more attractive and now on this "recruiting rankings don't matter" thing.

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